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Angolese x Purple Paki F1 fems

wordtree

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this new hybrid looks like a serious headringer...should be some huge plants hiding in there as well. Will there be f2's done, or is this currently available only as an F1 cross?

cuesta mucho trabajo, eh? photographia espectacular, bien bien de la luz enjoy your harvest!!
 

De La Luz

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Thanks for the kind words amigos.

These plants are quite large, just under 2 meters each.

The yields on some are quite large...I did this first test grow in smaller pots (12 liter size instead of my normal 20 liter sized pot). I had one heavy lady finshed last in 10 weeks and came in at 120 gr. trimmed & dried weight!!

Nute were organic with a normal feeding.

Grown under 2, 1000w hps and 1, 730w Sulfur plasma

I did have one plant with slight hermie flowers coming up on a single bottom bud...this may have been due to a few light peeks during flowering...totally my fault...
or it could just be that single plant. (#9).

#9 pollenated itself on the lower buds and hit a few of her sisters as well. Nothing major, not a problem. (I'm glad to have the extra seeds to play with)


I have a few selected females going now at about 4 weeks in 12/12. I'll get some photos up so you can see the bud structure and flowers developing.

Still waiting to sample 4 of the 10 plants and the remaining plants look lovely and very tasty.

More soon,
Gracias ACE!!
 
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dubi

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Congrats De La Luz for your harvest! :smile:

Im so glad to hear you are having good experiences growing the angolese x purple paki F1 fem hybrid. 120 gr from a single indoor plant is true nice work! :smoke:

We are very happy with the hybrid, it has a very good balance of sativa and indica traits, it's vigorous, early, high yielding, easy to grow, colorful and very pest and mold resistant. Probably the most resistant line we have tested this outdoor season. As you commented, there are some serious resin producers to be found. It's easy to find real good mothers working with small number of plants.

We also found 1 plant in 20 showing hermie traits, i think reason is the angolese influence and not the fem process.

Thanks a lot for the feedback! :wink:
 
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dubi

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wordtree said:
this new hybrid looks like a serious headringer...should be some huge plants hiding in there as well. Will there be f2's done, or is this currently available only as an F1 cross?

Hello wordtree,

Pure angolese or hybrids wont be commercially released. It's a hybrid to learn dominances and recesive traits of parental plants when they are outcrossed.
 
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wordtree

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cool, testing out the genetic base you collected, eh? How would you say the Angolese you have compares to other African selections? I wonder if there is anywhere in Africa besides maybe the Moroccans who have some old native indica lines...
has anyone ever worked with cannabis from Ghana?
 

dubi

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wordtree said:
cool, testing out the genetic base you collected, eh? How would you say the Angolese you have compares to other African selections? I wonder if there is anywhere in Africa besides maybe the Moroccans who have some old native indica lines...
has anyone ever worked with cannabis from Ghana?

Good day wordtree,

Mano negra's angolese is among the finest african sativas, along with zamal, congolese and malawi. Angolese high is stimulant and trippy, flowers in 12 weeks aprox with mid yield. Aromas are floral with carrot earthy tones.

Moroccan are hash plants but not indicas, their growing profile is sativa.
Moroccan, egyptian, sudanese, turkish, lebanese are hash plant sativas, very early flowering but sativas.

True indicas phenotype can be found mainly in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan ... less frequently in North India, Nepal, China, Mongolia...

I have no experience with Ghana's sativas but would love to grow a good one :smile:
 

dubi

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Atreyu said:
ACE seeds has very good works…. dubi has good hand.
greetings
Bahia

Thanks Atreyu friend :smile:

Here are a few pics of the angolese x purple pakistan hybrid, purple pheno selected mother, grown outdoors organically. We had a very nasty cold and rainy October but she finished at mid month without any problem.

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De La Luz

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beautiful plants Dubi!!
I love the long running flower clusters of these sativa tops!!! :rasta:

Your outdoor looks a bit more leafy (as one would expect being outdoor) but structurally, your plants looks a lot like my #10.

Here are some more images from round two

#4 at 5 weeks 12/12



close up cluster



Close up of #8 at week 3 12/12
 

dubi

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Thanks for share your beautiful indoor pics De La Luz :smile:

I'm loving the reddish and resinous flowers ... you are right, the angolese x purple paki i posted suffered from light contamination, producing more leaf during flowering but angolese x paki hybrid is usually quite high/flower ratio.
Best wishes for rest of the flowering!
 
De la Luz,

Could you express what the taste and high of the Angolese/Pakistani is like? How would you compare it to a Columbian or Thai?

Dubi or Charlie question? Can you explain why the reds and purples come out later in flowering? Is it the rise in Brix levels in late flower or is it a chemical that is produced that seems to inhibit the absorption of certain light spectrum such as UV, blue and infared. Just a question I've mosty grown outdoors but I will be trying to set up a small indoor regimen for the longer flowering sativas to finish by late fall in North America. Its just a thought running through my head as too light being used to its fullest, I guess you would say Lux. So white reflects all light, black absorbs all light and when you see colors such as red, blue, green these are the light spectrums that are not being absorbed and reflected back.

What are your thoughts if any, thanks for your time.

Mota
 

De La Luz

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De la Luz,

Could you express what the taste and high of the Angolese/Pakistani is like?

Mota

Mota,
I LOVE THIS STRAIN!!!! My favorite female taste sweet with a grapy, lavender, bubblegum spice taste and she smells sweet with an undertone of candied citrus.

I could go on with my thoughts on the high for a while but I'd say she is focused with a sativa dominated high, containing a mildly psychedelic edge to her, you will also notice a very nice warm touch in the center of your chest nicely revealing some of her Paki indica heritage.

I have three different phenos that have been kept out of 10 different females...

each one has slightly different traits that make it impossible to select just one for future works. ... I was looking for one good one and now can not do with out ALL THREE Ladies in my life:woohoo:
 
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charlie garcia

Hola Mota

There is Clorophyl-b which absorbs red and blue and reflects greens. Most colours are due different accesorial pigmentations, antocianins (hope is correct english sic) responsible of colorations. Some metalic ions in plant may react with antocianins pigmentations giving different colours.

There is a study also, cant find link now sorry, talking about how influence of light spectrum (blues and reds) may affect to maturig processes in cannabis but recomends further research to know better. Guess is more a general bothanic question anyway. Hope my reply is correct I repeat, am not botanic degree so I invite others to correct please if I explained wrong

De La Luz, ACE crew appreciate your results and feel happy to have satisfized you ;) Dubi knows better about this F1. Yeap, well explained about such warm chitral feeling, plays well in balance effect depart giving a really warm touch.

Btw some of these sativa hybrids use to be great for sex as well amigos, so play and enjoy. Also helps to relax ;) Dont forget!

best
 

dubi

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Mota,
I LOVE THIS STRAIN!!!! My favorite female taste sweet with a grapy, lavender, bubblegum spice taste and she smells sweet with an undertone of candied citrus.

I could go on with my thoughts on the high for a while but I'd say she is focused with a sativa dominated high, containing a mildly psychedelic edge to her, you will also notice a very nice warm touch in the center of your chest nicely revealing some of her Paki indica heritage.

I have three different phenos that have been kept out of 10 different females...

each one has slightly different traits that make it impossible to select just one for future works. ... I was looking for one good one and now can not do with out ALL THREE Ladies in my life:woohoo:

I like a lot your description of the taste and effect De La Luz, im glad to hear you keep 3 nice mothers, hope you grow them for a long long time! :wink:
 

Scay Beez

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Drool.... oh man... Any plans for seeds of angolese or crosses to hit the market? Sounds right down my alley.


- sbz
 

dubi

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Welcome Scay Beez,

We have no plans to release a commercial strain with angolese genetics. It's an exceptional sativa but Mano negra, the breeder that preserved this unique genetics since late 70s decided to not sell seeds in his last part of life. We are gifting angolese crosses as he did lately so the genetics are growing in many places, we are working to produce a pure fem angolese line for preservation purposes.
 
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charlie garcia

step to step el gordo, lets hope is possible... whenever is possible, in the meantime increasing females for selection numbers and assuring viable seeds of line from best and hermi free females found in the past grows and which was first and bigger issue in the line. Intersexual males found. So was just a decision to do this first as not bananas... and an empty room. Hope next run soon we can germ these, if good females, and last available seeds to look for those wished males. Believe us was almost a miracle to arrive to this point and we cannot count on it yet at 100%!
So step to step
Best
 

el gordo

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many thanks for the response charlie! i cross my finger for you to find some males, anyways you can use an intersexual male to continue searching in the line? or will get 100% intersexual descendants? i don't think so... but maybe it's a better idea to use a male from a relative line like the angolaxbanghi? i like to hear your thoughts on that...
 
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