Amnesia (Haze) options

[kro-magnon]

OK, I didn't know there was a difference, English is not my first langage

 

[ojd]

OK, I didn't know there was a difference, English is not my first langage

But when i say boosters I mean high PK products for flowering to enlarge flowers/buds

These are natural microbes

 

[need4weed]

RealGorilla has feminized Kore/Amnesia/Ammo seeds.... I have grown before, and they are definitely very very good Haze seeds...
Not watered down with NL or Skunk.....
Super stretchy donkey dick genetics... The highest yielding seed ive ever grown by a long shot.. It basically is impossible to get a more vigorous, stretchy, filled in cola than the plant i seen.... I imagine with co2 and training you could figure out a way to make a 6 foot long bud with these seeds...

Lemony spice 50% Hazey Incense 50%

For incense I prefer the Mangohz cross I have, but.... for plant frame Id take the Kore every time.

@Dr.Young got any pics ?

 

[need4weed]

im growing kwik seeds version ill keep yall posted

@Movement13 must be done by now? What's the consensus

 

[i.love.scotch]

Hey everyone, thanks again for the great contributions to this thread.

So I've got my hands on some old Amnesia x G13 Haze beans from E$kob@r that were given out as freebies by him back in the day. No idea if they'll pop but here is a decription of them that he posted on another forum many years ago (2011). If I do get them to start I'll create F2s.

"This is the Soma Cupwinner clone vs G13 Haze male elite cut.

The female amnesia clone flowers 8 to 9 weeks max.

The G13haze male is same as used in Lady Cane and Vanilla Sky (i was gifted this clone from soma to, its the same from the Soma G13 seedline)

U can expect phenos leaning towards the mother, who are shorter, concentrated amnesia spicy blends.

The more G13 haze male influence, the more sativa and more lemon infusion, but also longer flowering, but not extreme.

U can keep what interests u. My interest is a 10 week flowering amnesia/lemon/haze mix. Its just great.



I have made these beans over and over starting from 2000 to smoke myself. They have prooved me to be consitent and trustable.

Iff seedshops or coffeeshops would have to sell this one, it would get priced on top of the list. TOP NOTCH smoke.



Enjoy these, these kind of beans is rare to find. Specialy cause i use a original Amnesia Haze , wich is hard to find these days.

I do see much fake amnesia for some years allready. Those who lost the elite clone, name there own hybrid made with amnesia, amnesia haze ...

Thats wrong and not honest. U cant keep on using the exact name from a strain when u are several hybrid generations away from the source.



So plz, people that do know Amnesia Haze, or think they know it. TRY THIS ONE, and say to me what u experienced.

I hope and am practicly sure it will open some eyes.

They are freebies, easy to get and i made s***** has a nice stock from it.



Another great freebie from e$ko's farm. Brought in to set the pace for what is coming ...

To show u, to serve u, to thank the customers that make my collection expand and all the people who help making this possible.



U support me, i support u.

To be continued...



Grdz e$ko,"

 

[superx]

Very generous of you, these will be f2?

They sound promising, keep us updated...

 

[chilliwilli]

Hey amnesia lovers.
Could it be that the hypro cut is different from the core cut?

2016 i did search what amnesia the austrian cloneshops had to offer. At this time it was core cut, hypro cut and golden cut.

I grew core cut and hypro cut and they were different genetics.
The amnesia sold as hypro cut was fast flowering, first hair within a week after flip, small buds at 2 weeks and ready in 9 weeks.
Aroma was sugar sweet floral. Potency was less than the core cut but the high had a lot similarities. It was also no ceiling for the daily toker and dev a very good sativa happy weed high.
Sadly the cut is gone from the one shop that had it.

Here under 2*150 w cdm with additional hps ~35d after flip.
32d after flip
47d
56d
64d
Dry buds

Never tried the golden cut but some info about that would be nice.

 

[jonathan77]

EDIT: View bottom of this post to see all recommendations in this thread along with availability, pricing, reported lineage, etc. Thanks all of the contributions.

Question for anyone with experience growing Amnesia or Amnesia Haze.

Whose got the best beans for a reasonable price?

Information available seems quite muddled. There are a multitude of threads discussing the lineage of various Amnesia cuts and seeds so far so this thread is more specifically talking about currently available seed lines.

So I think its best to go with what attributes I'm after. As there seems to be quite a variety. Some people say Amnesia is a straight lemony/fruity aroma. Which I don't like.

I had Amnesia Haze from the Amnesia coffee shop in Amsterdam in 2008 and it definitely leaned more to the bubblegum and incense side of things (SSH type aromas in me experience) and I loved that bud.

Right now I'm looking at..

Dinafem Original Amnesia (no real guess as to the lineage here but they are feminized so hopefully just Amnesia cut S1s?)

Royal Queen Seeds Amnesia Haze (seemingly also S1 of either coffee shop or core cut?? are these guys affiliated with Hy Pro?)

Bulk Seed Bank (S1 of coffee shop cut??)

Soma (not really interested because expensive and the fact that Soma blatantly lies about the lineage bothers me)

Any others?

Has anyone grown any of these out?

I'm especially interested in the Dinafem because I can get a great deal on them and also in the Bulk Seed Bank ones because I want to get their Kali Mist seeds anyway (apparently made from 2 older Kali ladies, hopefully of the leathery, incense variety compared to the newer citrusy fruity Kali which I do not like at all).

Thanks in advance!

EDIT:

Great info in this thread. Still a bit confused on the lineage but getting there. Hy-Pro were the first to make seeds. This could be Enemy of the State x Neville's Haze. Or it could be SSH Cut x ??.

Some people say the original cut is the Core cut. Others say the core cut is a newer more bubblegummy cut that's mids and that the original is more citrus and hazey (South Holland cut? Cup winning cut?). Mate Dave in another thread said "The Core cuttinfg isn't as potent as my Hypro. It's got a bubblebummy flavour where mine is straight lemon fuel. it's devastatingly potent the Hy'pro & it throws out 1' long colas".

One of these cuts is for sure SSH bagseed though.. Soma lineage is still.. muddled... although supposed to be more incense and hazey.. Anyway, current seed options suggested in this thread are listed below.

Current options as of 01/05/2022 (not comprehensive, prices listed are retail price quoted on breeders page converted to USD. The comments, alleged lineage and flowering times are from user posts in this thread or from breeder description);

Super Strains (Supposedly Hy-Pro operating under a new name): Original Amnesia. The OG, original recipe. Reg seeds are listed as 9-10 weeks flowering and cost $2260 for 1,2 or 3 seeds??? You have a choice? WTF? They claim "Regular seeds, stored in the depth of our Super Strains vault and available for sale". Anyway. Fems are >10 weeks flowering and $52 for 5 seeds so that's more normal. Stizo says, "It has incense and gas notes, is very potent but still allows you to work and be creative. Has body as well as high". I am assuming the freebie Stizo grew was a fem seed. Or just the most ballin freebie of all time if it was a reg.

Kwik Seeds (The Real Seed Company): Amnesia. They say it is an F2 of the Hy-Pro line that they created from 1998-2002 seed stock. 10-12 weeks flowering. $28 for 5 regular beans. They say "intense sweet incense" for the aroma. Supposed to be quite good and a reputable company.

Ripper Seeds: Ripper Haze. Could by Hy-Pro or Core cut S1. They say they first tasted it in 2002. Mysterious. 9-10 weeks flowering. $45 for 5 fems.

Bulk Seed Bank: They have 2. "Amnesia Platinum" which seems like it could be a Core cut S1 (even though they say its Skunk x C99 x Jack Herer), 9-10 weeks. willydread says "I've grown bulkseeds amnesia platinum, a good herb, but with lemon aroma, not incense..." . Their second offering is "Amnesia Haze" which I am completely guessing but I would assume is from Soma considering they list the lineage as South Asian x Jamaican. 11-13 weeks flowering. Both of these are $20 for 5 fems.

Royal Queen Seeds: Amnesia Haze. 10-11 weeks flowering. $45 for 5 fems. GoatCheese says this is based off of Soma's line but indica leaning.

Victory Seeds: Amnesia Haze. 10-13 weeks. $33 for 5 fems. GoatCheese says this is based off of Soma's line but sativa leaning.

Soma Seeds: Amnesia Haze. 12-13 weeks flowering. $80 for 5 fems. He also offers regs. So not sure which would be the better offering. Quite highly regarded in general though, plenty of positive comments on it. CANNATORIUM says "rosemary, sandalwood candy".

Real Gorilla Seeds: The Kore. Core cut S1. 9-10 weeks. $34 for 6 fems. Dr, Young mentions "I have grown before, and they are definitely very very good Haze seeds... Lemony spice 50% Hazey Incense 50%"

Dinafem Seeds: Original Amnesia. They say its an Amnesia backcross. 9-10 weeks. $49 for 5 fems but may be found cheaper since their bust. browntrout says "some interesting phenos, a couple yielders with earthy chocolate notes and skunky/floral/cologne sativa pheno with small resin packed buds and thin leaves. I have no idea how close to the original it was. But in the upper 50% of seeds I’ve grown for that pheno alone"

Pure Regular Seeds: Amnesia F2. Supposed to be Hy-Pro F2. No flowering time listed. $49 for 10 regs

Female Seeds (Sweet Seeds now?): Sweet Amnesia. Two clones crossed. 9 weeks. $43 for 5 fems + 2 free (not sure if 2 additional Amnesia or 2 random freebies?).

Karma Genetics: Jack O Nesia. Amnesia (D-cut) x Jack #22. 9-11 weeks. $81ish for 10 regs if you can find them. Pointed out by goingrey

Hi
im also a little curious on the amnesia haze . ive got some seeds in the fridge. a couple more options for you to try 1- amsterdam genetics 2- dutchfem . they both list the genetics as afghani hawaii x jamaica laos . which is the standard description - they could very well be a lot of different things . the advantage of buying from them would be that they have probably improved the genetics by selection if they have done their job. if you buy from soma its a dead end . the problem seems to be with the afghan hawaii and the haze origins . id be willing to bet you could make amnesia haze with nothing more than nl5 , haze .

 

[Calle Minogue]

I am growing Soma AH F2 and grabbed one lady (left) FD64 today!




The males showed visible amount of resin on first leaves and during flower!

The best is on the reveg path!



Can’t wait to smoke my first indoor Buds

 

[CannaT]

I am growing Soma AH F2 and grabbed one lady (left) FD64 today!

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The males showed visible amount of resin on first leaves and during flower!

The best is on the reveg path!

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Can’t wait to smoke my first indoor Buds

In Soma AH you avoid purplish phenos green one are real deal.

 

[CannaT]

This is the one and only cutting that make Amnesia Haze famous....all others are just fake.
Overpower psydelic high unique in the world...In last years had oportunity to smoke it few times and it is really one of the strongest cuttings on earth.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Yeah looks potent and reminds me from optics to NH I bought in Netherlands 18 years ago

 

[i.love.scotch]

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This is the one and only cutting that make Amnesia Haze famous....all others are just fake.
Overpower psydelic high unique in the world...In last years had oportunity to smoke it few times and it is really one of the strongest cuttings on earth.

Yes, I smoked Amnesia Haze from the Amnesia Coffeeshop on Amsterdam back in 2008 or so and I remember it had a very dreamy, intense, almost shroom like high. Very nice!

And it did indeed have the very distinctive 'shell' shaped bracts and tiny hairs like in your picture there.

 

[CannaT]

Yes, I smoked Amnesia Haze from the Amnesia Coffeeshop on Amsterdam back in 2008 or so and I remember it had a very dreamy, intense, almost shroom like high. Very nice!

And it did indeed have the very distinctive 'shell' shaped bracts and tiny hairs like in your picture there.

Yep just like that shroomish high.
This shit is realy strong...Kind my Jack cut have that high but not as strong as that Amnesia Haze she have much more pungent terps so they give her more power and bit more of botom heavyness that look like more potent high.

 

[CannaT]

I will try to recreate gene pool from which are these modern hazes and kushes born...
After my grows and proven samples that I smoked through my life I think that starting point for it is

(NL5xhaze,Silver haze or Jack Herer) x Big bud.
I will use my cut of Jack and soon I will start to search male from Sensi Seeds Big Bud will go in 2 direction one candy male and one gasy,cheese,earthy male from big bud.
I will not share or trade seeds just I want to find Amnesia Haze and OG kush...my own cuts.
And I think I will find it this way.
Lineage will be.

[((NL5x(NL5xSkunk1 ))x( O.Haze)] x [(Afghan×skunk1) x (NL5xSkunk1)]

Will run it all here at Icmag.

 

[CannaT]

Original OGK
Look like more bulky kushy version of Amnesia above.

 

[wutwut]

amnesia core cut on right side. grown under 600w hps in super soil. not my best scrog, but it's fine enough, i think so. this is day 22 of 12/12.

 

[LordOvDaBudsRRR]

Hi
im also a little curious on the amnesia haze . ive got some seeds in the fridge. a couple more options for you to try 1- amsterdam genetics 2- dutchfem . they both list the genetics as afghani hawaii x jamaica laos . which is the standard description - they could very well be a lot of different things . the advantage of buying from them would be that they have probably improved the genetics by selection if they have done their job. if you buy from soma its a dead end . the problem seems to be with the afghan hawaii and the haze origins . id be willing to bet you could make amnesia haze with nothing more than nl5 , haze .

 

[LordOvDaBudsRRR]

View attachment 19010506
This is the one and only cutting that make Amnesia Haze famous....all others are just fake.
Overpower psydelic high unique in the world...In last years had oportunity to smoke it few times and it is really one of the strongest cuttings on earth.

The golden cut really did like the Barneys lemon haze tho in Dam back in 2012 it was a close call for the two for me

 

[LordOvDaBudsRRR]

amnesia core cut on right side. grown under 600w hps in super soil. not my best scrog, but it's fine enough, i think so. this is day 22 of 12/12.

Thanks look good m8 keep up the good work