American weed is superior to dutch.

[eastcoastjoe]

Once a plant is established in a new environment it will adapt to this new place and change its DNA by doing this, it is what we call acclimatation so a genetic from anywhere in the world grown in a specific region of the USA for example will become adapted to the new climate and soil she is grown in. The geographical origin of a genetic is not so relevant anymore after a few generations of growing in a different place, that's why we can call an Afghan grown for many years in the USA an american genetic.
I'm from France and I know someone who have grown Thai genetic in the south of my country outdoor for many years, now this specific genetic is not a Thai anymore but a Thai who is adapted to her new environment making it a new genetic, as we all know:
-Phenotype= genotype + environment. The DNA of the strain will evolve generation after generation to become something different from what it was in its original country. This phenomenon is why we can call a strain from anywhere in the world a french strain or dutch strain after enough generations of it being grown in her new place.

You talking about growing the same clone outdoors year after year ?

 

[Aristoned]

It's the genetic recombinaison of each generations who will make the plant evolve but the environment also play a role, that's an absoute certitude.

It isn’t evolution. The plants can only work with the genetic code they have from the beginning. If you lose those genetics they are gone forever, unless you have the base genetics then you could theoretically reproduce the same results.

The is a Law of Nature at work here, we cannot make something out of nothing. We can only change things from one form to another. There is no mysticism to horticulture, there is a predictable combination of genetic code that is possible from sexual reproduction. From those offspring the environment will choose which will continue and which will cease.

We are apart of that environment.

 

[nepalnt21]

The plants can only work with the genetic code they have from the beginning.

au contraire

Atomic gardening - Wikipedia

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[Aristoned]

au contraire

Atomic gardening - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You cannot make genetic code via propagation. It just does not work that way.

Genetic code is a protein, that protein has a code written inside. When the code is gone it is gone forever, unless you have the base genetics to propagate and select the offspring for the desired traits.

Fuck man.

Every breeder knows this. That’s why Skunk #1 has been saved for decades, if we lose it we may not be able to make it again since it wouldn’t exist in Nature.

I’m really trying to help you here.

 

[nepalnt21]

i was more latched on to the idea of making new genetic codes, and combinations and shit, like i think kro-magnon was on about... plus i was being a smartass... yes, i understand that once a unique genetic sequence is gone, it's gone (i guess unless we become masters of genes or some shit)

 

[Aristoned]

i was more latched on to the idea of making new genetic codes, and combinations and shit, like i think kro-magnon was on about... plus i was being a smartass... yes, i understand that once a unique genetic sequence is gone, it's gone (i guess unless we become masters of genes or some shit)

Don’t play God.

It is best to preserve the genetics, breed new stains and find cool stuff.

Charlotte’s Web has an amazing story about a little girl that suffered chronic seizures and the CBD in the cannabis would bring her back to life. The breeder selected the genetic code that had trace amounts or no psychoactive substances present. This was critical as healing the small child was the desired result and not putting her in a THC induced coma every day.

 

[nepalnt21]

they bred charlotte's web, no?

i guess nature made the hemp, but they had to hybridize and select to get to that unique genetic combination to produce high cbd low thc marijuana buds

 

[Aristoned]

they bred charlotte's web, no?

i guess nature made the hemp, but they had to hybridize and select to get to that unique genetic combination to produce high cbd low thc marijuana buds

We call it Selective Breeding.

Have you noticed all of the different kinds of dogs in the world?

Mastiffs are large while Chihuahuas are tiny.

 

[nepalnt21]

those are new, that's my point...

breed new stains and find cool stuff.

i think i skimmed and missed this, i think i thought you were saying we couldn't make new unique things, don't shit on me bro lol i smoked this gsc hybrid for some reason right first thing in the morning and gsc is like instant burnout

 

[VinScentVanGro]

Many people have some small boxes of flowers delivered directly to their house from Cali, the prices are pure theft but the legend of cali weed has many smokers wasting their money on overpriced flowers. The ones I've tested were looking great, were too often lacking smell being certainly some old stock and were decent smoke but not worth the price asked this is sure. I prefer smoking my own fresh flowers grown with care and nutes made with high standards, I use Terra Aquatica, it's made in my country with locally sourced products. The TA boss was one of the founder of GHE in the US, he's french and came back to his home country a few years ago.

 

[nepalnt21]

i just realized he said he's french, so is it pronounced "kro manyon"?

 

[Aristoned]

those are new, that's my point...

i think i skimmed and missed this, i think i thought you were saying we couldn't make new unique things, don't shit on me bro lol i smoked this gsc hybrid for some reason right first thing in the morning and gsc is like instant burnout

You cannot make new genetic code.

You can only rearrange what genetic code is available to you.

When the genetic code is gone it is gone forever.

Cheers!

 

[kro-magnon]

It isn’t evolution. The plants can only work with the genetic code they have from the beginning. If you lose those genetics they are gone forever, unless you have the base genetics then you could theoretically reproduce the same results.

The is a Law of Nature at work here, we cannot make something out of nothing. We can only change things from one form to another. There is no mysticism to horticulture, there is a predictable combination of genetic code that is possible from sexual reproduction. From those offspring the environment will choose which will continue and which will cease.

We are apart of that environment.

Every living organisms are able of evolution, it doesn’t make something out of nothing, the DNA changes with the new environment where it grows. The phenotype being genotype plus environment means the geography plays a role. It’s simple biology

 

[nepalnt21]

You cannot make new genetic code.

ok, so you can only recombine genes and not fabricate a new gene, and once a specific gene (is that what an alelle is?) is gone, it's kaput...

but isn't recombining genes into new configurations (reproduction in general) kinda like making a whole new brand spankin, unique code?

 

[Aristoned]

Every living organisms are able of evolution, it doesn’t make something out of nothing, the DNA changes with the new environment where it grows. The phenotype being genotype plus environment means the geography plays a role. It’s simple biology

No.

Objectively wrong.

Breeding and Genetics are not your forté.

 

[Aristoned]

ok, so you can only recombine genes and not fabricate a new gene, and once a specific gene (is that what an alelle is?) is gone, it's kaput...

but isn't recombining genes into new configurations (reproduction in general) kinda like making a whole new brand spankin, unique code?

You will run out of code eventually if you do not preserve the original code.

 

[kro-magnon]

No.

Objectively wrong.

Breeding and Genetics are not your forté.

You simply don't know what you're talking about.
How what I said could be wrong when we have different cannabis genetics today who are all coming from the same ancestor? Afghan and Mexican cannabis don't have the same DNA yet they both come from the same original cannabis plant who appeared many many years ago. If there was no evolution there would not be different types of cannabis today.

 

[Aristoned]

You simply don't know what you're talking about.
How what I said could be wrong when we have different cannabis genetics today who are all coming from the same ancestor? Afghan and Mexican cannabis don't have the same DNA yet they both come from the same original cannabis plant who appeared many many years ago. If there was no evolution there would not be different types of cannabis today.

No, you just don’t get it at all.

You think you can make something out of nothing.

Magic isn’t real, that is just slight of hand.

 

[joepotsmoker]

Once a plant is established in a new environment it will adapt to this new place and change its DNA by doing this, it is what we call acclimatation so a genetic from anywhere in the world grown in a specific region of the USA for example will become adapted to the new climate and soil she is grown in. The geographical origin of a genetic is not so relevant anymore after a few generations of growing in a different place, that's why we can call an Afghan grown for many years in the USA an american genetic.
I'm from France and I know someone who have grown Thai genetic in the south of my country outdoor for many years, now this specific genetic is not a Thai anymore but a Thai who is adapted to her new environment making it a new genetic, as we all know:
-Phenotype= genotype + environment. The DNA of the strain will evolve generation after generation to become something different from what it was in its original country. This phenomenon is why we can call a strain from anywhere in the world a french strain or dutch strain after enough generations of it being grown in her new place.

I completely agree which what your saying, everything adapts to survive. Like u said, it adapted. but it's an adapted Thai. Not a "French". That's all I'm saying. But you are 100% correct in my eyes