It would have been better if he'd set the camera down on top of something steady!
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Aliens, yay or nay?
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It would have been better if he'd set the camera down on top of something steady!
Russian fighter jets captured these images many moons ago, sorry the video is in french 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2CmvWssvw
one of the ufos is of the famous cigar shaped ones...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2CmvWssvw
one of the ufos is of the famous cigar shaped ones...
this sort of discussion is against icmag's tou.
understandably, since this alien yay or nay thread can get heated, it's nothing compared to the shit storm that would unleash if we started discussing God.
peace!
Here are some documented Ufos too.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/
Edit. Crap! they want money for the documents, sorry for that.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/
Edit. Crap! they want money for the documents, sorry for that.
To think there is no other life of some kind ..... in the billions of earth like planets alone in our galaxy cmon how many more galaxies are out there ?????
we must be freaks off nature then, maybe were boring to them or there like us no way of contacting
As depicted in the beginning of the movie ‘Contact’, the earth has an expanding ‘bubble’ of man-made radio signals expanding outward at the speed of light. These early radio transmissions were short range experiments that used simple clicks and interrupts to show transmission of information in the 1890s. In 1900, Reginald Fessenden made the first — though incredibly weak — voice transmission over the airwaves. The next year saw a step up in power as Guglielmo Marconi made the first ever transatlantic radio broadcast.
This means that at 110 light-years away from earth — the edge of a radio ‘sphere’ which contains many star systems — our very first radio broadcasts are beginning to arrive. At 74 light-years away, television signals are being introduced. Star systems at a distance of 50 light-years are now entering the ‘Twilight Zone’.
It’s now becoming possible to detect the atmospheric composition of extrasolar planets. This breakthrough has allowed researchers to narrow down our hunt for earth-like worlds. It’s quite possible that an advanced alien culture can also do this, and detected an abundance of water in our atmosphere. If they have, they may have sent a focused radio message in our direction. If we’re not listening though, we may just miss it.
I would bet on other life and pretty sure were going to see it happen in the next 20 years
we must be freaks off nature then, maybe were boring to them or there like us no way of contacting
As depicted in the beginning of the movie ‘Contact’, the earth has an expanding ‘bubble’ of man-made radio signals expanding outward at the speed of light. These early radio transmissions were short range experiments that used simple clicks and interrupts to show transmission of information in the 1890s. In 1900, Reginald Fessenden made the first — though incredibly weak — voice transmission over the airwaves. The next year saw a step up in power as Guglielmo Marconi made the first ever transatlantic radio broadcast.
This means that at 110 light-years away from earth — the edge of a radio ‘sphere’ which contains many star systems — our very first radio broadcasts are beginning to arrive. At 74 light-years away, television signals are being introduced. Star systems at a distance of 50 light-years are now entering the ‘Twilight Zone’.
It’s now becoming possible to detect the atmospheric composition of extrasolar planets. This breakthrough has allowed researchers to narrow down our hunt for earth-like worlds. It’s quite possible that an advanced alien culture can also do this, and detected an abundance of water in our atmosphere. If they have, they may have sent a focused radio message in our direction. If we’re not listening though, we may just miss it.
I would bet on other life and pretty sure were going to see it happen in the next 20 years
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I doubt they hear our radio signals because we can't hear theirs. Probably too much static on the airwaves for a normal short range low powered radio signal to be heard.
We could have a debate on God if we want to and we have.
I find it funny that so many people believe some old book about God who is a superhuman creator of the universe who is everywhere at once. All powerful, all good, really jealous and he created a universe from where?
Far more likely the universe has always been. Never was created but just is.
It's far more logical to try and explain myths in logical terms. We can argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin but there is no data to go on.
So many people believe in god and angels and demons but scoff at the idea of them maybe being more likely to be other life forms more like us than a super god and his angels.
I know that I could be pissing god off and I usually hedge my bets so no offense intended God. Jesus was supposed to be son of god but who was this god who was his daddy?
So believe what you like but aliens are a good possibility for many of our myths which often are based on some truth.
They discovered the God particle and it is what gives mass to all things. Shows you how wrong I can be. I thought god was a wave but I guess he is a particle. That would make him omnipresent and omnipotent wouldn't it? He is everywhere but I still doubt he needs to pull rabbits from hats.
We could have a debate on God if we want to and we have.
I find it funny that so many people believe some old book about God who is a superhuman creator of the universe who is everywhere at once. All powerful, all good, really jealous and he created a universe from where?
Far more likely the universe has always been. Never was created but just is.
It's far more logical to try and explain myths in logical terms. We can argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin but there is no data to go on.
So many people believe in god and angels and demons but scoff at the idea of them maybe being more likely to be other life forms more like us than a super god and his angels.
I know that I could be pissing god off and I usually hedge my bets so no offense intended God. Jesus was supposed to be son of god but who was this god who was his daddy?
So believe what you like but aliens are a good possibility for many of our myths which often are based on some truth.
They discovered the God particle and it is what gives mass to all things. Shows you how wrong I can be. I thought god was a wave but I guess he is a particle. That would make him omnipresent and omnipotent wouldn't it? He is everywhere but I still doubt he needs to pull rabbits from hats.
Again people confuse the term proof with evidence.
Plenty of evidence but no proof.
Proof is what you decide to accept not the evidence.
Anything can be evidence...even a ghost story.
Plenty of evidence but no proof.
Proof is what you decide to accept not the evidence.
Anything can be evidence...even a ghost story.
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Im assuming the universe holds aliens... But I aint neva seen one.
Him
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You missed your own question. At one point you asked ME to prove conclusively that an objective reality DID exist. I am simply asking you to prove conclusively that an objective reality DOES NOT exist.
However, when you add the caveat "or if it does, it can't be proven" you have made a much more reasonable statement.
legalizeDK
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Well I certainly apologize for not including the full caveat each and every time.
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OK, Anti & Tessy only:
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Yes, definitely. Or not.
legalizeDK
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i hate when it happens, the worts part is when they start "waking up"
babysnakes
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Shakyamuni Buddha is said to have gathered his closest disciples near the end of his death in India around 2000 BC. He said you are not my highest disciples and I haven't taught you my highest teaching because you are not ready for it. He said I have not always been enlightened, but had been for many thousands of years teaching buddhism on other worlds. He said my teacher is coming who has always been enlightened, that was Nichiren Dashonin, born in Japan around the 1200's.
There was never a "first" chicken. There was a species of bird that kept evolving successively until it could no longer interbreed with its ancestral species. When it could no longer interbreed it became a chicken. But there's no line in time that we can point to with a pre-chicken on one side and a chicken on the other. It was a gradual progression over many generations and each generation looked basically like its parents. Thus there never was a first chicken.
There was however, an egg of whatever that ancestral species was.
So the egg. It wasn't always a chicken egg and there's no easy place to point your finger and say "this one is a chicken. The one before wasn't." But it was still an egg.
Can you point me to the source Anti?
Not really interested in the chicken example but in general. I remember reading evolution isn't necessarily a slow process but rather spontaneous jumps.
And Professor Louis Bonoure, Director of Research at the French National Center of Scientifich Research said, "Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science.
Wolfgang Smith, a mathematics professor from MIT and Oregon State University, made his point very clear.
"Today...The Darwinian theory of evolution stands under attack as never before. A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from evolutionist camp. For the most part, these "experts" have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblicial persuasions, but strictly scientific grounds."
In 1960, W.E. Swinton, from the British Museum of National History said, "The evolutionary origin of birds is largely a matter of deduction. There is no fossil evidence of the stages through which the remarkable change from reptile to bird was achieved.
Source: Swinton, W.E. Biology and comparative Physiology of Birds.
Edit. Yeah it was Bruce Lipton and his work Spontaneous Evolution.
Not really interested in the chicken example but in general. I remember reading evolution isn't necessarily a slow process but rather spontaneous jumps.
And Professor Louis Bonoure, Director of Research at the French National Center of Scientifich Research said, "Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science.
Wolfgang Smith, a mathematics professor from MIT and Oregon State University, made his point very clear.
"Today...The Darwinian theory of evolution stands under attack as never before. A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from evolutionist camp. For the most part, these "experts" have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblicial persuasions, but strictly scientific grounds."
In 1960, W.E. Swinton, from the British Museum of National History said, "The evolutionary origin of birds is largely a matter of deduction. There is no fossil evidence of the stages through which the remarkable change from reptile to bird was achieved.
Source: Swinton, W.E. Biology and comparative Physiology of Birds.
Edit. Yeah it was Bruce Lipton and his work Spontaneous Evolution.
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Him
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If your interested in evolution check out Michael Cremo, totally debunks Darwins theory of evolution, and claims we humans have been on this planet for millions of years, not thousands..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyqrZmxrak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPyqrZmxrak
