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Aliens Exist' Says Canada's Former Defense Minister
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Truth, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
Those who choose to bury their heads in the sand will never see/seek the truth. Creationists come to mind.
I once worked with a guy for years before learning he was a creationist. When I asked him to explain the dinosaurs that are in museums all around the world, he just shakes his head and says, "no"....because that's what he's been taught, and he's happy being brainwashed. My brother is a born again Christian, and you cannot tell him anything, because he's full of the "Holy Spirit" (which I call superstition), and has all the rules of life wrapped up in a nice tidy box. Superstition is a powerful force, and if a person is under the spell, you cannot tell him anything.
Statistically, it's impossible for us to be the only intelligent life in the universe(s).
Kind of like Nationalism, lottery tickets and cable tv.
People are so used to being led and beat over the head with so-called "proofs" to the point it doesn't occur to them to find truth their self rather than being bashed about the head by something they are told is truth.
I feel it has something to do with the herding program.
Turns out that National Geographic believes in UFOs:
As most credible UFOlogists readily admit, proving that extraterrestrial spacecraft have visited our planet is a maddeningly difficult chore.
“The hassle over the word 'proof' boils down to one question: What constitutes proof?” Edward J. Ruppelt, who headed the U.S Air Force’s secret investigation of UFOs in the early 1950s, once wrote. “Does a UFO have to land at the River Entrance to the Pentagon, near the Joint Chiefs of Staff offices? Or is it proof when a ground radar station detects a UFO, sends a jet to intercept it, the jet pilot sees it, and locks on with his radar, only to have the UFO streak away at a phenomenal speed? Is it proof when a jet pilot fires at a UFO and sticks to his story even under the threat of court-martial? Does this constitute proof?”
More recently, Investigative journalist Leslie Keen, author of the 2011 book “UFOs:
Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record,” has noted that in roughly 90 to 95 percent of UFO sightings, observers turn out actually to have seen weather balloons, ball lightning, flares, aircraft, and other mundane phenomena. But another five to 10 percent of sightings are not so easily explainable, but that’s not the same as demonstrating that they are extraterrestrial in origin. Nevertheless, she argues, the hypothesis that UFOs are visitors from other worlds “is a rational one, and must be taken into account, given the data that we have.”
Here is some of the most compelling reasons that UFOs may be more than simple misidentifications of natural phenomena or terrestrial aircraft:
• The long, documented history of sightings. UFOs were around, in fact, long before humans themselves took to the air. The first account of a UFO sighting in America was back in 1639, when Massachusetts colony governor John Winthrop noted in his journal that one James Everell, “a sober, discreet man,” and two other witnesses watched a luminous object fly up and down the Muddy River near Charlestown for two to three hours. There are documented sightings of what were then called “airships” during the 1800s as well, such as the July 1884 sighting of a Saturn-shaped UFO (a ball surrounded by a ring) in Norwood, NY, and a fast-moving object that briefly hovered over the startled townspeople of Everest, KS in 1897.
• Numerous modern sightings by credible, well-trained professional observers. In Ruppelt’s 1955 book , “The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects,” he documented numerous instances of military service members, military and civilian pilots, scientists and other credible professionals who had observed UFOs. In one instance, Ruppelt describes the experience of a pilot of an Air Force F-86 fighter jet, who was scrambled to track a UFO and got to within 1,000 yards of a saucer-shaped object that abruptly flew away from him in a burst of speed after he fired upon it. He also mentions a 1948 UFO encounter in which two airline pilots got to within 700 feet of a UFO and saw two rows of windows with bright lights.
• Consistencies in the descriptions of purported alien ships. Over the decades, witnesses who’ve seen UFOs have shown remarkable consistency in the shapes and other characteristics of the objects they’ve described. In 1949, the authors of the report for Project Sign, one of the early military investigations of UFOs, identified four main groups of objects—flying disks or saucers, cigar or torpedo-shaped craft without wings or fins, spherical or balloon-shaped objects that were capable of hovering or flying at high speed, and balls of light with no apparent physical form that were similarly maneuverable. Nearly a quarter-century later, a French government investigation headed by Claude Poher of the National Center for Space Research found similar patterns in more than 1,000 reports from France and various countries. One caveat is that in recent years, reports of wedge-shaped UFOs—which bear a similarity to the latest terrestrial military aircraft—have begun to supplant some of the traditional shapes.
• Possible physical evidence of encounters with alien spacecraft. The 1968 University of Colorado report, compiled by a team headed by James Condon, documented numerous instances of areas where soil, grass, and other vegetation had been claimed by witnesses to have been flattened, burned, broken off, or blown away by a UFO. A report by Stanford University astrophysicist Peter Sturrock, who led a scientific study of physical evidence of UFOs in the late 1990s, describes samples of plants taken from a purported UFO landing site in France in 1981. French researchers found that the leaves had undergone unusual chemical changes of the sort that could have been caused by powerful microwave radiation—which was even more difficult to explain, considering that they found no trace of radioactivity at the site.
• Physiological effects on UFO witnesses. The Sturrock report describes in detail various symptoms reported by individuals who had encountered UFOS, ranging from burns and temporary deafness to persistent nausea and memory loss. Among the most vivid examples: Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and Landrum’s young grandson Colby, who reportedly happened upon a “large, diamond-shaped object” hovering over a Texas road in December 1980. All three became ill afterward; Cash, for example, developed large water blisters on her face and swelling that closed her eyes, in addition to severe nausea and diarrhea. The effects persisted for years, and she was hospitalized more than two dozen times."
There's more @ this link:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.c...rticles/five-good-reasons-to-believe-in-ufos/
Top 10 Alien Sightings:
http://science.discovery.com/aliens-space/10-alien-sightings.htm
As most credible UFOlogists readily admit, proving that extraterrestrial spacecraft have visited our planet is a maddeningly difficult chore.
“The hassle over the word 'proof' boils down to one question: What constitutes proof?” Edward J. Ruppelt, who headed the U.S Air Force’s secret investigation of UFOs in the early 1950s, once wrote. “Does a UFO have to land at the River Entrance to the Pentagon, near the Joint Chiefs of Staff offices? Or is it proof when a ground radar station detects a UFO, sends a jet to intercept it, the jet pilot sees it, and locks on with his radar, only to have the UFO streak away at a phenomenal speed? Is it proof when a jet pilot fires at a UFO and sticks to his story even under the threat of court-martial? Does this constitute proof?”
More recently, Investigative journalist Leslie Keen, author of the 2011 book “UFOs:
Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record,” has noted that in roughly 90 to 95 percent of UFO sightings, observers turn out actually to have seen weather balloons, ball lightning, flares, aircraft, and other mundane phenomena. But another five to 10 percent of sightings are not so easily explainable, but that’s not the same as demonstrating that they are extraterrestrial in origin. Nevertheless, she argues, the hypothesis that UFOs are visitors from other worlds “is a rational one, and must be taken into account, given the data that we have.”
Here is some of the most compelling reasons that UFOs may be more than simple misidentifications of natural phenomena or terrestrial aircraft:
• The long, documented history of sightings. UFOs were around, in fact, long before humans themselves took to the air. The first account of a UFO sighting in America was back in 1639, when Massachusetts colony governor John Winthrop noted in his journal that one James Everell, “a sober, discreet man,” and two other witnesses watched a luminous object fly up and down the Muddy River near Charlestown for two to three hours. There are documented sightings of what were then called “airships” during the 1800s as well, such as the July 1884 sighting of a Saturn-shaped UFO (a ball surrounded by a ring) in Norwood, NY, and a fast-moving object that briefly hovered over the startled townspeople of Everest, KS in 1897.
• Numerous modern sightings by credible, well-trained professional observers. In Ruppelt’s 1955 book , “The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects,” he documented numerous instances of military service members, military and civilian pilots, scientists and other credible professionals who had observed UFOs. In one instance, Ruppelt describes the experience of a pilot of an Air Force F-86 fighter jet, who was scrambled to track a UFO and got to within 1,000 yards of a saucer-shaped object that abruptly flew away from him in a burst of speed after he fired upon it. He also mentions a 1948 UFO encounter in which two airline pilots got to within 700 feet of a UFO and saw two rows of windows with bright lights.
• Consistencies in the descriptions of purported alien ships. Over the decades, witnesses who’ve seen UFOs have shown remarkable consistency in the shapes and other characteristics of the objects they’ve described. In 1949, the authors of the report for Project Sign, one of the early military investigations of UFOs, identified four main groups of objects—flying disks or saucers, cigar or torpedo-shaped craft without wings or fins, spherical or balloon-shaped objects that were capable of hovering or flying at high speed, and balls of light with no apparent physical form that were similarly maneuverable. Nearly a quarter-century later, a French government investigation headed by Claude Poher of the National Center for Space Research found similar patterns in more than 1,000 reports from France and various countries. One caveat is that in recent years, reports of wedge-shaped UFOs—which bear a similarity to the latest terrestrial military aircraft—have begun to supplant some of the traditional shapes.
• Possible physical evidence of encounters with alien spacecraft. The 1968 University of Colorado report, compiled by a team headed by James Condon, documented numerous instances of areas where soil, grass, and other vegetation had been claimed by witnesses to have been flattened, burned, broken off, or blown away by a UFO. A report by Stanford University astrophysicist Peter Sturrock, who led a scientific study of physical evidence of UFOs in the late 1990s, describes samples of plants taken from a purported UFO landing site in France in 1981. French researchers found that the leaves had undergone unusual chemical changes of the sort that could have been caused by powerful microwave radiation—which was even more difficult to explain, considering that they found no trace of radioactivity at the site.
• Physiological effects on UFO witnesses. The Sturrock report describes in detail various symptoms reported by individuals who had encountered UFOS, ranging from burns and temporary deafness to persistent nausea and memory loss. Among the most vivid examples: Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and Landrum’s young grandson Colby, who reportedly happened upon a “large, diamond-shaped object” hovering over a Texas road in December 1980. All three became ill afterward; Cash, for example, developed large water blisters on her face and swelling that closed her eyes, in addition to severe nausea and diarrhea. The effects persisted for years, and she was hospitalized more than two dozen times."
There's more @ this link:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.c...rticles/five-good-reasons-to-believe-in-ufos/
Top 10 Alien Sightings:
http://science.discovery.com/aliens-space/10-alien-sightings.htm
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as scientific knowledge advances, there's always great resistance from many, until the ideas that were once thought of as 'unrealistic' are now norm, such has been the history of science and technology.
in a few more years, as many of the technologies we have that seem to 'violate' certain parts of our old understanding of science, will be available to the general public, just as all cutting edge science and technology eventually does.
in a few more years, as many of the technologies we have that seem to 'violate' certain parts of our old understanding of science, will be available to the general public, just as all cutting edge science and technology eventually does.
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I can hardly beleive it.
But it is better for aliens to meet first with Canadians in high then with ugly gloomy citizens of the terror countries.
But it is better for aliens to meet first with Canadians in high then with ugly gloomy citizens of the terror countries.
in dude's "defense" i found an rt interview where he mentions "andromedia" is a moon, not to be confused with "andromeda" the galaxy.
not that i relly want to defend dude. his presentation isn't strong. which i don't judge him on. people who have experienced something others don't believe in can sometimes develop that kind of demeanour after they've recited their story to the 1000th unbelieving listener and been treated to the "who's gonna believe you, you old fucknut?" attitude for decades.
I've read the news today, oh boy...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...by-nazi-space-aliens-really/?tid=pm_world_pop
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...by-nazi-space-aliens-really/?tid=pm_world_pop
rofl, cant be real man, it must be a joke, people cant be this retarded
"They also say it was independently confirmed by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer."
haha yeah sure, paul again, if he confirms then its surely real...
wtf is this old clown doing, good thing he is 90 and dies soon, that piece of shit is dumming down the planet, every god damn alien story he is there confirming shit without any evidence, and some people eat it every time cause he had a tittle of defense minister, this guy is is trying to convince the public about things that isn't real and without evidence, even tho they would have tons of evidence if anything they said was actually true
why are they using "trusted" people to spread these lies? thats allot more interesting than their shitty stories
Notice the resemblance of Hillyer to this UFO aficionado and his Heaven's Gate club?
Now, if only we could get all the Canadians to BELIEVE Hillyer...
Now, if only we could get all the Canadians to BELIEVE Hillyer...
I believe the truth could be out there (sounds like some xfiles talk)
what is the truth though ? Is there but one truth ?
I believe I can change my outlook
I believe I can manipulate my reality (to a certain degree)
I do not underestimate the power of my own mind but... there are limits... you cannot push your limits without getting taxed at some point
Can I distinguish truth and manipulation ?
It depends on the situation. Sometimes I believe I can get manipulated, but to be manipulated, you need to let yourself be vulnerable, be willing to trust. We use each other constantly.
They say, people are made to be loved and objects made to be used but we often are using people and loving objects.
Do you really believe there is no truth ?
I believe there very well could be a truth.
It doesn't matter to me if there is, or isn't. I have in the past looked for answers, sometimes I let it go and don't think about it, but often I look.
I can sort of make my own... Believe that I already hold truth.
Fake it to make it.
Small time
Member
Just because we haven't seen them doesn't mean they aren't there. Crap! Looks like more religion.
Yes but most people like being used. It means we're needed. You could go as far as saying that love between two people is nothing more than using each other, altruism doesn't exist etc. Love is selfishness, people do pure good out of selfishness. Kind of kills the romantic vibe of the idea that is love though.
I believe we're being used and manipulated on a very large scale though. There's so much wealth and technology we could all be living like rich people. Yet we work our whole life and end up with nearly nothing, except for some material crap which can't make you happy. And that's if your lucky enough to live in a rich country. We don't even think about those few billion people out there that don't have nothing, no food, no water, no education, just starving like abandoned animals tied to a tree.
To me there are three possible answers; A the human race is really that barbaric; B the people that run the show are cunning psychopaths or C the people that run the show are doing so because aliens force them to.
God let it be C, and where the hell are those alien cops at, we need saving
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