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Aliens Exist' Says Canada's Former Defense Minister

RetroGrow

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O.K, so this is not some wino or stoner. This is the former defense minister of Canada, who says aliens DEFINITELY exist and walk among us. He had access to classified information, and is now coming out.There are 80 different species identified so far. Some look just like humans. Since there are countless trillions of planets, makes sense that others would support life and be inhabited. They could be thousands or millions of years ahead of us.

" There’s nothing quite like a former high-ranking official giving credence to conspiracy theories to kick off a work week.

Over the weekend, Paul Hellyer, former Canadian defense minister, went on television and declared that not only do aliens exist but that they walk amongst us and are responsible for some of our modern technology. Among these tech gifts are the microchip, LED light and Kevlar vest.

Hellyer, who served as Canada's Minister of National Defence in the 1960s, went on Russia Today’s program SophieCo to speak more about extraterrestrials. The interview, seen below, is a little on the long side but it’s totally worth it, particularly because he’s the first high ranking politician to publicly state that aliens are real.
Honestly, watching this is an exercise in feeling conflicting emotions. For starters, I too believe that aliens exist. Our universe is so massive that it would almost be statistically impossible for Earth to be the only planet to have intelligent life.

It’s also incredibly easy to get behind statements like:

“We spend too much time fighting each other, we spend too much money on military expenditures, and not enough on feeding the poor and looking after the homeless and the sick, and that we are polluting our waters and our air and that we’re playing around with these exotic weapons, thermonuclear weapons and atomic weapons, which have such devastating effects both on Earth and other areas of Cosmos.”

That’s straight up true, and Hellyer’s claim that we don’t have more alien technology because we treat each other poorly is believable. It’s a scientific fact that we can’t have nice things. But then Hellyer gets into the specifics, and that’s when he begins to lose me.
“[I’ve] been getting from various sources [that] there are about 80 different species and some of them look just like us and they could walk down the street and you wouldn’t know if you walked past one.”
The segment then ventures into the incredulous when Hellyer begins to list where they’re coming from. It turns out that our alien visitors come from near (one of the Saturn moons) and far (the Pleiades and Zeta Reticuli star systems). Oh yeah, and they get here via a portal in the Andes mountains in Peru. So there you have it, folks. Aliens are real, according to a nonagenarian man who at one point had access to highly classified information during the height of the Cold War.
So what do you think?
There is a 25 minute interview with him here:
http://fusion.net/modern_life/story/aliens-exist-canadas-defense-minister-358002
This could punch a hole in many people's religious beliefs, and would make Creationists look even sillier than they already do.
 

nvthis

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There are some things I just don't get (and I say this before watching the vid...).. When you consider the North Korea's, the Venezuela's, numerous Muslim countries, etc. that absolutely loathe the self proclaimed modern free world, you would have to believe these governments would seize upon any opportunity like this to show the lies and deceptions of the western world and spill what they know. Some of the strangest and most unexplainable occurrences come to us via small, underdeveloped third world countries. I just can't see any government(s) hiding 80 species of off planet beings and only one Canadian dude coming out? You know, 1 or 2 'incidents' (think Roswell) quickly smothered and buried.. Sure, maybe. Mayyybe.. But 80 species hangin' at the mall??? With that, I will now watch the vid :)
 

m314

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There has to be other intelligent life out there. Our galaxy has at least millions of Earth like planets with conditions favorable for life. Intelligent life is almost certainly out there, but I won't believe in aliens walking among us until there's some kind of actual proof. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Someone smart said that once.

I can say as 100% fact that the microchip was a human invention. The history of computer science is well documented. Ordinary humans like Blaise Pascal and Alan Turing paved the way for modern information technology. I don't know the history of LEDs or kevlar, but I'd guess they were invented by humans too. Smart people have a way of coming up with revolutionary ideas and making them work.
 

RetroGrow

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There are some things I just don't get (and I say this before watching the vid...).. When you consider the North Korea's, the Venezuela's, numerous Muslim countries, etc. that absolutely loathe the self proclaimed modern free world, you would have to believe these governments would seize upon any opportunity like this to show the lies and deceptions of the western world and spill what they know. Some of the strangest and most unexplainable occurrences come to us via small, underdeveloped third world countries. I just can't see any government(s) hiding 80 species of off planet beings and only one Canadian dude coming out? You know, 1 or 2 'incidents' (think Roswell) quickly smothered and buried.. Sure, maybe. Mayyybe.. But 80 species hangin' at the mall??? With that, I will now watch the vid :)

It's not just one dude coming out. He is only the highest level government official who was defense minister and had access to classified information to come out. Many, many other credible witnesses have seen UFOs, including many airline pilots, military pilots, policemen, and people from all walks of life and from every country.
With trillions & trillions of planets, why would 80 species be surprising?
 

RetroGrow

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There has to be other intelligent life out there. Our galaxy has at least millions of Earth like planets with conditions favorable for life. Intelligent life is almost certainly out there, but I won't believe in aliens walking among us until there's some kind of actual proof. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Someone smart said that once.

I can say as 100% fact that the microchip was a human invention. The history of computer science is well documented. Ordinary humans like Blaise Pascal and Alan Turing paved the way for modern information technology. I don't know the history of LEDs or kevlar, but I'd guess they were invented by humans too. Smart people have a way of coming up with revolutionary ideas and making them work.

And how do you know that these "ordinary" people didn't have "help" or inspiration with these inventions?
The point is, they were "invented" by humans, with alien assistance.
 

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i read both your posts before watching this video. i got about halfway and i heard this guy pronounce andromeda as "andro media" plus he was like, he "researched" all this himself. doesn't say he was there and knows because he saw the aliens. says he just researched same as me or you could do. shit he even says that himself.

so i'm like if you can't pronounced andromeda and you have been doing all this research... i'm just saying.

i'm up to full handfuls of salt.

i wish that chick would just show him video's of ufo's from recent times and be like, is this a ufo? how about this one? is this real? etc.

everything he's saying is super vague and holds no more water than if any of us said it.
 

lulzz

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i too believe that there is life out there somewhere, but when you look at space and distances, aliens would need to manipulate time/space to get here, its pretty safe to say that the day aliens visit our planet no one will have a doubt, you need to consider this, if aliens were evil they would just do wtf they wanted with us, if they were benevolent there is no way they would come here in silence and work undercover with our corrupted and fuckt up government, it just makes absolutely no sense

i have studied this case a bit cause so many went nuts over it, and there is still no evidence to be seen, this guy is selling books and talking about allot of shit but never showing anything, he got contact with alot of diff government and high ranked and what some people would call the "elite", im more afraid that all this bullshit that comes out lately is part of a bigger and much different agenda

most of the ufo's you see pictures and videos off are fake or explainable things, humans been working on saucer's and "alien" like aircrafts since world war 2, there is lots of human made machines that we know nothing about and mistake for alien, then there is the few %'s that we cant explain and could be possible aliens no one knows, until there is some evidence should no one imo believe in it
 

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And how do you know that these "ordinary" people didn't have "help" or inspiration with these inventions?
The point is, they were "invented" by humans, with alien assistance.

With computer science in particular, it's easy to see how each person built on the discoveries of the mathematicians who came before them. Every step along the way was an incremental improvement over the one before. Geniuses like Alan Turing were "standing on the shoulders of giants", meaning they were building on the accomplishments of the geniuses that came before them. That's how math and science have worked through human history. People learn what's known at the time and add to that with their own ideas. 100 years from now kids will grow up learning facts about our universe that we have no clue about today.

If you claim that guys like George Boole and Charles Babbage were helped by aliens, the burden of proof is on you. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." What's more likely, a smart guy making incremental advances in a certain field of science or some random dude getting a gift from aliens and claiming it as his own idea?

You can't seriously claim that the history of mathematics over the centuries was driven by aliens (over and over again in the case of incremental advances in computer science) unless you have real proof. That's how science works. A hypothesis isn't generally accepted until it's proven through evidence.

Of course it's possible that aliens are living among us. I just think it's unlikely from what I've seen so far.
 

sprinkl

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Ofcourse they're living among us. Hasn't anyone seen Men In Black? Do you think Hollywood can come up with such ridiculous stuff? I don't think so.

I just wonder if there's also an evil manipulative alien race enslaving other aliens like there are humans or is there another reason why they're not saving us? Are the aliens exploitng us? Are we not worth it? We must be, why would they come here otherwise? Is human race too wicked to deserve being saved? Too easy to manipulate?

I hope we get the truth some day... It would make one helluva 3D film!
 

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I 100% believe in Aliens, and look constantly to catch a UFO in the night sky.

I believe there is evidence of alien interaction that dates back thousands of years on this planet.

It is small minded to believe we are the only intelligent life in the vastness of space. Space is limitless and infinite, where we are, what we can see, and what we know is like a spec of dust in the ocean.

Humans fear what they do not understand, so we'd probably try to kill them if they tried to interact with us now.
 

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I believe in advanced life forms of alien beings,
and that Paul Hellyer's missing a few screws.

what a fuck nut.......
 

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Hellyer's declarations are only second hand, they are interesting, but he even says that while he was Defense Minister he did not see anything on the subject except for a ufo sighting report here and there, to which no importance was really given.

there are far better testimonies from first hand witnesses, check them out here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SDisclosure/videos

there's Hellyer's interview too... and of another ex defense minister, this time from England if my memory serves me right, think is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_itwvRo9k

short but what he says is pretty well thought out.

in the video list you have some really cool testimonies, and some not as cool...

I find the subject super interesting.

and btw, the whole argument that if aliens exist it would mean the demise of religions, that's quite silly... it may mean the demise of some religious dogmas, but there's plenty of religions that have openly discussed the existence of extraterrestrials... in Judaism it is talked about, as well as Vedic Religions, etc...

peace
 

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The Vatican has made comments that if extraterrestrials do exist they would be creatures without original sin, so they'd be like gods.

Also, the Vatican owns some of the most powerful telescopes and observatories in the World. I believe if anyone knows the truth it is them but it is their job to keep the information a secret.
 
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lulzz

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guys, try and do some research on space, distances, and all those things before you watch lame fake ufo videos

even if we could go at speed of light or beyond, it would takes million of years just go get to Andromeda galaxy, thousands of years just to get to the nearest star

to travel space like this takes technology thats way way beyond what we can grasp, aliens don't go into a 5x5 meter saucer and travel the universe, its not that simple


besides that, if aliens are looking at our planet from outer space, the are seeing earth as it was millions of years ago, they are not seeing humans and buildings, i doubt they just travel from planet to planet without a purpose, again, space travel is not as easy as in science fiction

there is so many things to consider here, there more you study this, the more skeptic u become about ufo stories

watch this, a little info on space travel

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD08CuUi_Ek
 
The Vatican has made comments that if extraterrestrials do exist they would be creatures without original sin, so they'd be like gods.

Also, the Vatican owns some of the most powerful telescopes and observatories in the World. I believe if anyone knows the truth it is them but it is their job to keep the information a secret.


Okay... Did you really equate religion and scientific discovery? Religion, scientific discovery AND the Vatican no less? Next, you'll say horoscopes are valid forms of inquiry.
 

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we cant rationalize space travel in an earth like way. I don't believe ET's advanced enough to travel through space would do it like we would sail a ship across the ocean.

For all we know ET's have been charting the cosmos for thousands of years and travel thru portals, black holes, ripples in time etc...kind of like how a modern mariner would travel thru the Panama Canal.

Either that or I believe possibly they could be highly evolved humanoid creatures from earth's future that have developed the ability to time travel.

In a way the present and the future exist at the same time, so maybe 100 years into our future we will make a discovery that could spawn the abilty to travel thru time 5000 years further into the future. Kind of how Einstein brought his discoveries to his time but could never imagine the hadron collider, but the hadron collider could have never existed without Einstein's theories.


Okay... Did you really equate religion and scientific discovery? Religion, scientific discovery AND the Vatican no less?

I dont quite get ya, I was just stating some facts about the Vatican and their interest in space and their thoughts on ET's.

I do believe segments of religion are factual, but I think there is a lot of fairy tale mixed in. In religious texts there is instances that could be assumed meant they were having interactions with entities not from earth. Just look back at ancient civilizations and you will see things that just are not explainable, or are exact images of how we would describe a grey alien etc. There is a lot of weird stuff out there that most people don't know about or just don't care about.

Im not going to go into it, it is a very deep topic, you are best off to do some research yourself.
 
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trichrider

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several humans have claimed to have created flying discs.
professor john searl...

http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/space/the-searl-igv-inverse-gravity-vehicle.html

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/flydisc.htm

http://www.unmuseum.org/realsauc.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/wingless/wingless.htm


i'm not denying extraterrestrial existence. i've witnessed what i believe have been et craft several times in the last five years. most my life i've been skeptical of alien intelligence but having been 'reborn' i've come to believe many quite fantastic claims, but not without some due diligence concerning credulity (ever the skeptic).

man is not the ultimate intelligence.
 
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