AliceD Returns - Blimburn GG#4 Auto freebies

[AliceDAnon]

This thread will document my second grow after a year's hiatus.

Had to take some time off to improve my grow area and security. I believe I am set up and ready to start again.

I'll be starting with two Blimburn GG#4 Auto freebies that I received.

 

[AliceDAnon]

11/10/22

Germinated seeds 11/5. Seeds grew tails and I placed them in JiffyPellets on 11/7.

Cotyledons open and first leaf nodes begin 11/10.

After germinating in wet paper towel, seeds were moved to JiffyPellets. Here is the seedling dome and T5 reflector light that I use for seedling stage. Used a heat mat to keep them between 70-79F and spray bottle to keep RH around 85%.

Seedling #1. Started as a helmet head for the first few days until I removed it.

Seedling #2. Growing good but a bit concerned about the tap root showing through the soil. Hopefully it is not damaged.

 

[AliceDAnon]

11/22/22

Once taproot emerged from the bottom of JiffyPellets, I transplanted the seedlings to seedling bags.

I used 50/50 FF Ocean Forest and Happy Frog with a bit of perlite (probably could have used more).

Used a bit of Great White mycorrhizae when transplanting.

Still watering with distilled water at this point. I placed the seedling bags on top of the jiffy tray to get them closer to the light and reduce stretching.

Seedling #2 collapsed and seems to have LSTed itself naturally. Seems a bit stunted as well, growing slower than Seedling #1. Could this be due to the taproot being damaged by light?

 

[AliceDAnon]

Left on vacation for 4 days and didn't water the seedlings during that time. Returned yesterday to find Seedling #1 very healthy, but Seedling #2 looks to be either dehydrated or suffering from calcium deficiency (never dealt with this before, not sure). It is also stunted and growing slower than it's sister.

I gave them a nice watering when I returned and will post a picture when lights come on tonight. Hoping that Seedling #2 can rebound quickly.

 

[AliceDAnon]

Here are the plants today. On seedling #2 you can see the damage I was referring to earlier on the first node leaves. Does this appear to be dehydration or calcium deficiency?

I believe they were starting to get heat stress so I flipped the tray they were sitting on. Hopefully they don't start stretching again now...

Going to transplant into 2 gallons in a few days once I get some more roots coming through the bottom. Right now I only see one root tip on Seedling #1.

 

[TyroneShoelace]

Hi AliceD, welcome back.

I doubt you'd be seeing that strong of a deficiency this early. My uneducated guess is that your medium dried back enough to either raise the EC enough for a burn. Keep em watered and they should grow through it.

 

[negative37dBA]

Hi there....big GG4 clone only fan here. Been growing her for going on 7 years now. I would like to ask where did you get your seeds and what is the makeup of them? Curious to see how it was made. Haven't seen any thing that's from seed really stand up to the original. Will be following along with interest.
Peace, negative.

 

[AliceDAnon]

Hi AliceD, welcome back.

I doubt you'd be seeing that strong of a deficiency this early. My uneducated guess is that your medium dried back enough to either raise the EC enough for a burn. Keep em watered and they should grow through it.

Hi Tyrone. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I agree with the dehydration. Your hypothesis on EC begs me to ask another question I've been wondering for weeks...

What is my EC from just the soil? I can't find a way to measure EC with these seedling bags because I don't water them to runoff. With larger pots with runoff, I just use a syringe to draw out enough fresh runoff from the tray to test.

I started the seedlings in neutral JiffyPellets. Then I put into seedling bags with 50/50 FoxFarms OF and HF. Some perlite as well (but not enough and I'm seeing rooting issues because of it). I've been watering the whole time with neutral Distilled water so 0 EC on the inflow. No nutrients yet as FoxFarms is hot and the soil should be plenty.

 

[AliceDAnon]

Hi there....big GG4 clone only fan here. Been growing her for going on 7 years now. I would like to ask where did you get your seeds and what is the makeup of them? Curious to see how it was made. Haven't seen any thing that's from seed really stand up to the original. Will be following along with interest.
Peace, negative.

Hi. It's GG#4 Autoflower from Blimburn. It was just a freebie I received, doing them as a practice to get back into this and learn. Not wasting good genetics yet... I'm not sure what the makeup is, as you pointed out, it's definitely not true, original GG#4, plus it's an autoflower.

 

[TyroneShoelace]

Hi Tyrone. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. I agree with the dehydration. Your hypothesis on EC begs me to ask another question I've been wondering for weeks...

What is my EC from just the soil? I can't find a way to measure EC with these seedling bags because I don't water them to runoff. With larger pots with runoff, I just use a syringe to draw out enough fresh runoff from the tray to test.

I started the seedlings in neutral JiffyPellets. Then I put into seedling bags with 50/50 FoxFarms OF and HF. Some perlite as well (but not enough and I'm seeing rooting issues because of it). I've been watering the whole time with neutral Distilled water so 0 EC on the inflow. No nutrients yet as FoxFarms is hot and the soil should be plenty.

Testing runoff is the simplest way. Otherwise you're looking at inconsistent soil probes or more involved slurry tests. And this early that's probably not necessary if they're green and still reaching for the light. You are right that FF is hot and it's showing. But they seem to be doing well enough to push through it as long as you don't let them dry out again. If you're dead set on finding your current EC as a baseline, you won't hurt anything watering to 10-20% runoff for the test. Your seedlings will probably appreciate the flush.

 

[AliceDAnon]

Plants are not looking good. Transplanted to 2 gallon fabric pots about a week ago. Moved into the tent with HLG225 light dimmed to 70Watts.

Light is now at 115 Watts, 24" from plants. Humidity around 60-70 percent RH. Okay 70F-78F.

I watered the plants for the first time since the transplant last night (I did soak the new soil heavily right before transplant). I also began feeding at 1/4 strength.

Inflow measurements: EC: 850EC; PH: 7

Runoff measurements: Plant #1 EC: 3100; Plant #2 EC 3300

 

[AliceDAnon]

I started LST today. Plant #1 on the left and plant #2 on the right.

 

[negative37dBA]

I am looking on with interest. Another member just finished a Original Glue from seed run from Barneys..he is not the happiest with the results. Very airy and massively foxtailed. Hopefully you will get better results.
Peace, negative.

 

[AliceDAnon]

I am looking on with interest. Another member just finished a Original Glue from seed run from Barneys..he is not the happiest with the results. Very airy and massively foxtailed. Hopefully you will get better results.
Peace, negative.

All I've heard of this strain/breeder is bad things. Bad genetics, bad results, etc. It was a freebie and using it to continue my learning. No big deal.

Doesn't look like it's going to end very well. Sick and late to the race!

 

[jwm]

Nice start.
Getting the plants off to a good start, as I’m sure you know, is hugely important.
I start mine in pellets as well but a bit differently.
My method; heat reg tap water, drop the pellets in.
They’ll expand quickly. I boil the water, let it cool a bit.
Loosen the top netting and w/ a pen or something, loosen the peat on top just a little.
With the pellet fully soaked and warm it removes the need to soak your seeds, if you do that?
Plant, and with a dome, kept warm you shouldn’t have to water at all before they sprout.
Once the seedlings are big enough, 3-4” I remove the netting before trans planting into a starter pot.
If I were germing in a paper towel I’d go straight into a stater pot instead of a pellet when it sprouts. You avoid 1 step

 

[AliceDAnon]

Nice start.
Getting the plants off to a good start, as I’m sure you know, is hugely important.
I start mine in pellets as well but a bit differently.
My method; heat reg tap water, drop the pellets in.
They’ll expand quickly. I boil the water, let it cool a bit.
Loosen the top netting and w/ a pen or something, loosen the peat on top just a little.
With the pellet fully soaked and warm it removes the need to soak your seeds, if you do that?
Plant, and with a dome, kept warm you shouldn’t have to water at all before they sprout.
Once the seedlings are big enough, 3-4” I remove the netting before trans planting into a starter pot.
If I were germing in a paper towel I’d go straight into a stater pot instead of a pellet when it sprouts. You avoid 1 step

Some good info here. I soak my pellets in diffused water on a heating pad at 85F. I do soak the seeds as well, didn't know the removes the need. I also don't boil the water, just heating pad.

I've never removed the netting on the pellet before transplanting, I thought you weren't supposed to. Have I been doing that wrong?

 

[moose eater]

All I've heard of this strain/breeder is bad things. Bad genetics, bad results, etc. It was a freebie and using it to continue my learning. No big deal.

Doesn't look like it's going to end very well. Sick and late to the race!

I believe I grew Blimburn's Tijuana, if I recall, and had good luck with her. She wasn't the classic Sativa in her effect, either, and was both easy-going to grow and pleasant in effect.

But that was my only experience with them (Blimburn). Can't even recall where/how I ended up with it.

I believe I still have a few mature 'selfed' seeds from her around here.

Good luck.

 

[AliceDAnon]

I believe I grew Blimburn's Tijuana, if I recall, and had good luck with her. She wasn't the classic Sativa in her effect, either, and was both easy-going to grow and pleasant in effect.

But that was my only experience with them (Blimburn). Can't even recall where/how I ended up with it.

I believe I still have a few mature 'selfed' seeds from her around here.

Good luck.

Thanks Moose. That sounds like a nice plant.

Every seed holds something to teach us, right?

 

[moose eater]

They're like little Buddhist monks; they give us lessons, and gently or not so gently tell us to figure it out.

'Less is often more' took a long time, even when I had it down in one or 2 areas, there were more to go.

It was humbling to have a plant teach me about stupidity, separating luck from knowledge, and 'uni-vision'..

Still learning.

Good luck to you.

 

[mexweed]

it taught you to never fuck with autos again, with a photo you could have clipped the tops and tried rooting them

moving to a new light source and also transplanting is a lot of shock