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Air Cooling 4-1000watters

619Sativa

Member
I was wondering, having 4-1000w lights over 2 4x8 tables, what size fan would be needed? I was thinking 2-8 inch vortex fans, one on each side. Any suggestions?
 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate
It depends. Are you carbon scrubbing at the beginning of the line? End of the line? Not at all (sealed room, etc.)?
 

619Sativa

Member
I'm not gonna have any carbon filters or anything attached. The fans would be just for the lights. And yes, the room will be sealed. The room temps would be between 80-85 F, co2. If I used 1 on each side, that would give me a little under 375 cfm per 1000w light.
 

SergeantGod

Member
I used two 8" Max Fans (654 cfm) open on the intake side so it was pulling air from the room and venting out. seems like it raised the temps 8-10 degrees from the ambient temp.

Hope that helps
 

619Sativa

Member
Does anybody with experience cooling 4-1000watters have an opinion? Are 2 8 inch vortex fans too much, or will I be good to go?
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
Does anybody with experience cooling 4-1000watters have an opinion? Are 2 8 inch vortex fans too much, or will I be good to go?

I am currently cooling 2 Magnum XXXL 6" hoods with 1K's, with a 8 inch vortex. Perfect. Would fully trust 2 8 inch vortex's to vent your hoods @ 1 fan per 2 hoods.If you had any question left in your mind, moving up to 10 inch fans would supply a lot more movement especially if you are moving the air over a long stretch of ducting AND using hoods with 8 inch openings. Would also highly recommend using insulated ducting to keep the heat in the tube and not in the room. I had a noticeable decrease in temps in the room when I changed over to insulated ducting.
My air intake comes in through the wall through solid sheet metal duct work. A "T" shaped fitting is installed for 1 hood. Another length of metal ducting past that "T" ends with a 90 degree metal elbow going into the second hood. All seams in the ducting, T, and 90 degree elbow are taped to keep from pulling air/co2 out of the room.
Insulated ducting is on the discharge side of the hood straight to a Y connection then to the 8 inch fan.
Keeps the lights very cool.
 

619Sativa

Member
I'm gonna be going with the sunleaves Sunspot 8 reflector. It is supposed to be completely air tight, and the openings are 8 inch. The first fan would be pulling air from a seperate room, have a 4 ft duct stretch, through 4 hoods over 16 feet, then have a second fan attached at the other end, pushing the air out the roof. Hope that explanation makes sense, I'm a little high. I was planning on using fully insulated ducting, 8 inch, and possibly some heat shields for the reflectors, fans and ducting.
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
Just clarifying, are you trying to evac the air through 4 hoods that are tied together?
Kinda like this-

duct work-from outside room
fan pushing outside air into the first hood
hood
hood
hood
hood
fan to roof?

If so, better to separate the hoods into 2 separate systems, each tied into the duct work coming in from the outside room, through 2 hoods then out through the roof with the fans. Pushing air through the hoods isn't an effective use of the fan.
It'll be hard to keep the heat down with 4 1K's in series.
 

619Sativa

Member
Just clarifying, are you trying to evac the air through 4 hoods that are tied together?
Kinda like this-

duct work
fan pushing outside air into the first hood
hood
hood
hood
hood
fan to roof?

That is exactly what I was planning. Do you see any flaws in this design?
 

resinryder

Rubbing my glands together
Veteran
That is exactly what I was planning. Do you see any flaws in this design?


You would get much better air flow and venting if you just ran 2 hoods per fan. Pushing air through is not as efficient as pulling air through the hoods.
 

crestiksa

New member
Air Cooling 4 1000watters

Air Cooling 4 1000watters

i know im lame for staying with air cooling but when your computer sucks as much as mine what can u do. what would the temperature drop be with 4 fans extra. currently running around 45 celcius with my p3
 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.
Veteran
I used one 6" Vortex to cool 4KW with no issues, but it was all very straight ducting, no 90's so your results may vary.
 

619Sativa

Member
You would get much better air flow and venting if you just ran 2 hoods per fan. Pushing air through is not as efficient as pulling air through the hoods.

I see what you are saying. My actual design will include 8-1000watters, in 2 rows of 4. I didn't want to have exhaust fans over the tables, but if I have to I will. You are saying I should use 1 fan for 2 hoods, and pulling not pushing. That would mean I should get 4-8 inch vortex's, right. Kinda like this,

duct
hood
hood
fan- out roof
hood
hood
fan- out roof

or would something like this work

fan-pushing
hood
hood
fan-pulling
hood
hood
fan- pulling out roof ???

I have heard that it is more efficient to pull, rather than push, but I have also heard that it is not good to be constantly pulling hot air through the fan, so which is it. I guess if you can keep the air cool enough going over the bulbs, which would be ideal, than it would be better to pull.
But like my example, would it work to have 3-8 inch vortex's in a row cooling 4 lights? One fan pushing, and the other two pulling.
 

619Sativa

Member
Sorry if I'm annoying, but what would work? Trying to keep all the ducting connected. I'm pulling in air to cool the lights from one side of the room and I don't want to split ducting. One straight run would be ideal.
 

zenoonez

Active member
Veteran
Pulling is almost always more efficient and less stressful on fans. Is your grow legal? If it isn't I wouldn't suggest venting out of the roof as that can be a tip off to cops and easily detected. I always liked the cooling setups that utilized chillers and radiators myself but thats a lot of cash.
 

619Sativa

Member
Pulling is almost always more efficient and less stressful on fans. Is your grow legal? If it isn't I wouldn't suggest venting out of the roof as that can be a tip off to cops and easily detected. I always liked the cooling setups that utilized chillers and radiators myself but thats a lot of cash.

The grow will be in a basement in a home I am moving to shortly, so venting out the roof isn't really going to be venting outside. But I'm only going to be able to pull in air to cool the hoods from one side of the room. The room will be 24 feet long. 2 4x8 tables in a row, with central ac, co2, and santa fe dehuey. The room will be sealed. The fans will only be used to cool the lights, but I can only really have 1 run of ducting for all 4 lights.
 

619Sativa

Member
fan-pulling in air from seperate room
hood
hood
fan
hood
hood
fan

Does anyone see any flaws in this design? If I keep the run straight, I think I'll be ok. It will be about a 20 foot stretch from the first fan to the last fan.
 

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