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Any link/book/scientific essay you base this on?Talking about the potency part.Sounds more like broscience/urban legend to me.Would really like to be proven wrong though.
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Any link/book/scientific essay you base this on?Talking about the potency part.Sounds more like broscience/urban legend to me.Would really like to be proven wrong though.
Oh man, Arid, I'd love to but currently can't and am in Europe.
I'd love to try and wrestle some autos into a scrog under LED.
Hopefully sometime in the future.
Take care and stay healthy!
CC
I'd love to try and wrestle some autos into a scrog under LED.
Hopefully sometime in the future.
Take care and stay healthy!
CC
Nah, basic science. Ask Kyle Kushman for reference. In meantime, I'll dig through my botany text books.
You don't have to believe it.
Eaten watermelon that had seeds vs. seedless GMO altered watermelons? Full ripeness flavor isn't there, taste isn't there, it's pithy. It's a watermelon, but not the juiciness of seeded watermelon of yore.
Same goes with grains, any organisms that has been genetically altered (seedless, feminized, etc.).
Stripping RNA by whatever means produces a plant, but it's lost certain RNA strands that which I mentioned. That was from a TED talk 3 yrs ago but I do have the text to back it up.
Kyle's talk in Denver 2014 basically said similar regarding regular and feminized seed. He's on your side of the globe.....contact him!
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Sure I don't ,sounds like I shouldn't,too ! "Basic science" is a very broad term...I believe I'm educated enough to understand,you can try me.
I haven't had the honour of knowing in personal this Kushman guy,so maybe you could quote him?
You can check here if you want, we were having this discussion by coincidence since yesterday.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=377301&page=3
Bring your books if you like .
Same goes for Corona cerveza....Mmmmmmm! Fishing and yard work brewski!
Thanks, Lester. I still guffaw after all these tears of your "bean stalk". Talk about skeltered genetic disposition......Haaaaa!
Do you know the difference between RNA and DNA....basic science. Verdant, looks like, talking DNA.
Have a lot on my plate, but will get back to you.
I know an Ag professor at NMSU mentioned same thing I talked about. And potency, although it's minimal, it does show in testing, GMO (feminized) less potent.
Several hemp farmers in COLO refuse to grow feminized hemp because of the same. It's out there.
Do your own study in the meantime. Short Stuff/Flash has regular seed and feminized seed. After finishing, do a TLC test on it.
ReikoX
Knight of the BlackSvn
Are you doing the TLC testing in house or having a lab do it?
So far, in home kit testing (not the DIY type that has been explained here). Several testing kits from CO and OR plus and chemistry solution/lab equipment borrowed from a degradation lab I worked for briefly, Eden Labs. It's an adequate, but not uber precise number with chemistry print out.
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Yes, USA/CA only, COVID through P.O. Once COVID eases up a bit, can have you try next spring, if inclined.
We do have gear on SeedBay, yet realize you want to test vs. purchase.
Did finally reach Kyle in his talk in 2014 Denver Cup...a lot of emails, discussion boards in order to get him to respond. At that time he said, varying feminization techniques could pose hermaphroditic traits. By having REGULAR seeds, you can sift through, finding best phenos, hence higher potency. Stressing them (as I conversed with NMSU Ag professor), it IS similar to chile peppers. Stress them, it plant fruit becomes hotter....that's why you don't pick after heavily irrigated or rains....let changes the Scoville measures (heat index).
Having seeds from commercial breeders, LOTS (where seeds are taken from) can vary, as well.
HORTSCIENCE 55(8):1206–1209. 2020. https://doi.org/10.21273/HORTSCI15061-20
Comparing Genotypic and Phenotypic
Variation of Selfed and Outcrossed
Progeny of Hemp
https://www.annaschwabe.com/research
Reached out to Dr. Schwabe a few times to ask/answer questions on hemp growing and her research. Invaluable!
"Although epigenetics may play a role and potentially result in phenotypic variance, but this has not been well studied in plants or clonal organisms, let alone Cannabis.
Also, there have been discussions among geneticists that there are no true females- only males and hermaphrodites. I don't know how I feel about that. But- it makes sense, in that every female has the potential to express male traits."
Herr dissertation:
https://digscholarship.unco.edu/dissertations/554/
A Multifaceted Approach to Address Variation in Cannabis Sativa
https://youtu.be/t9c_LrKWVAM
https://youtu.be/GUNVYgQbUOw
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Wow arid...So much scientific papers just to say that by SELECTION you can get more potent plants? You can select fems too mate.So your argument does not come to higher potency but sexual stabilty.
I will check the papers but this is not what we were discussing.Me at least
I will check the papers but this is not what we were discussing.Me at least
Wow arid...So much scientific papers just to say that by SELECTION you can get more potent plants? You can select fems too mate.So your argument does not come to higher potency but sexual stabilty.
I will check the papers but this is not what we were discussing.Me at least
Yes....however....did you read Dr. Schwabe's last paper?
FEMS do have phenotypes, just not as many.
Really, Sid, I don't give a flying fart what you think, or read, or comprehend.
I told you I'd find out....NMSU Dean Rolando A. Flores supplied me with some of the answers. Other hemp related articles, other professionals.
Go pesk your little tribe....Gorilla auto from Fastbuds has been reversed in 2018....yeah, I'm aware.
Moving on...............
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"Really, Sid, I don't give a flying fart what you think, or read, or comprehend."
You don' t have to be rude because you are not answering to my question and I told you so.You are nervous and it shows.
I thought I was having a civil conversation.I was wrong to think so.You can keep answering your own questions to yourself and keep sniffing your own farts.
I'm outta here.
You don' t have to be rude because you are not answering to my question and I told you so.You are nervous and it shows.
I thought I was having a civil conversation.I was wrong to think so.You can keep answering your own questions to yourself and keep sniffing your own farts.
I'm outta here.
Nope, not scared, not alarmed, NOT anything regarding you and your 2 thumbs up posts and your responses. Actually, talking to Dr. Schwabe, it was enlightening.
Good to see you skip along, Sid. Adios!!
Once you get to 50 posts, contact us via PM. We'll work something out.
TESTERS WANTEWD FOR AUTOS and a few CBD AUTO HEMP SELECTIONS
TESTERS WANTEWD FOR AUTOS and a few CBD AUTO HEMP SELECTIONS
TESTERS, calling DEPENDABLE TESTERS, in the USA.
Out of seven (7) TESTER packages, only TWO (2) are posting, one who recently purchased direct from us. The THOSE great folks, a hearty thank you!! Scrog, you were tremendous in your updates. Welder Dan and also, BOMBAY CAT, way to grow!
Guys (those sitting on afterthought TESTER gear), start your engines and crack those beans!!
So, looking for a few more RELIABLE, post worthy folks willing to TEST our recent finishes:
Critical x Lebanese/Blue
Blend of CBD Hemp AUTOS: Tranquil x Auto CBD hemp hybrid
Midnight Cowboy, a Sweet Tooth/Headband hybrid
Jack/Bomb
We want SERIOUS folks who will follow through.
PM if interested. Thanks much!
TESTERS WANTEWD FOR AUTOS and a few CBD AUTO HEMP SELECTIONS
TESTERS, calling DEPENDABLE TESTERS, in the USA.
Out of seven (7) TESTER packages, only TWO (2) are posting, one who recently purchased direct from us. The THOSE great folks, a hearty thank you!! Scrog, you were tremendous in your updates. Welder Dan and also, BOMBAY CAT, way to grow!
Guys (those sitting on afterthought TESTER gear), start your engines and crack those beans!!
So, looking for a few more RELIABLE, post worthy folks willing to TEST our recent finishes:
Critical x Lebanese/Blue
Blend of CBD Hemp AUTOS: Tranquil x Auto CBD hemp hybrid
Midnight Cowboy, a Sweet Tooth/Headband hybrid
Jack/Bomb
We want SERIOUS folks who will follow through.
PM if interested. Thanks much!
