African photo thread

[mriko]

Ethiopian haze close to harvest

Mais.. mais... c'est pas un peu bientôt fini oui tous ces monstres?!!! hein ? hein ? yen'a marre à la fin !
haha, je crois qu'à chaque fois que tu postera des tofs ce sera la même chose, je me répète et me répèterai encore, mais tu me fais ha-llu-ci-ner !

Irie !

 

[titoon29]

great picts ptg, this lady is soooo frosty!!!

my nigerian is very light in trichomes for the moment, but she is getting fat.

seems that too much light does not help for the buds, the buds which are a little far away from the lamp are bigger.

she really wanted a lot of nutes, so i decided to transplant her from 9L to around 20 liters. today she was still showing nitrogen deficiency, but it should be better in the days to come.

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[ptg]

Looks good man^^,even if this girl seems to be a wild bitch...

Do you run her in 12/12?...

 

[oldbootz]

she really wanted a lot of nutes, so i decided to transplant her from 9L to around 20 liters. today she was still showing nitrogen deficiency, but it should be better in the days to come.

Hey titoon, i have made this mistake many times myself. The african sativas tend to try and loose 75% of their fan leaves during flowering. They just yellow off slowly and die, which is characteristic of a N deficiency but it really is not one, its just the genetics trying to cull some of its wieght and put more energy into the buds. I used to keep on adding N until they stopped yellowing but all it did was slow the process down a little and then all the new 1 blade leaves that develop on the new bud areas start to show clawing which is typical of overfeeding N. They tend to yeild more AND tastier bud when given a medium amount of N and let to yellow off a little.

OB

 

[indifferent]

Yes, cut out all N early with pure sats. Say you have a sat that takes 16 weeks, you really want to cut out the N after 8 weeks imho, otherwise you get leafy plants that take forever to flower. I also agree Africans throw off their leaves readily, but it's quite natural.

Here's my West Africans, similar looking to titoons I think but not as far into flower, i suspect these are Nigerians, but might be Ghanaian or Gambian i suppose, West Africa is full of ganja, but Ghana and Nigeria are the main sources of weed that makes it to the UK.

 

[Moppel]

anyone ever smoked (or seen) ganja from Sierra Leone?

 

[indifferent]

Not heard of any but I would expect they would be similar to strains from Ghana and Nigeria as it is at the same latitude - 8N. That plant above is from West Africa and i have grown a Ghanaian before that was similar so I expect equatorial West African sats will all be fairly similar and strains from Sierra Leone would fit into that category. I have some Senegalese from La Mano Negra that could be close to a Sierra Leone type as it's just a little further north up the coast from Sierra Leone.

 

[mriko]

Not heard of any but I would expect they would be similar to strains from Ghana and Nigeria as it is at the same latitude - 8N. That plant above is from West Africa and i have grown a Ghanaian before that was similar so I expect equatorial West African sats will all be fairly similar and strains from Sierra Leone would fit into that category. I have some Senegalese from La Mano Negra that could be close to a Sierra Leone type as it's just a little further north up the coast from Sierra Leone.

sorry indifferent but this is absolutely not the case actually. Not only strains are different from a country to another, but they will differ from an ecosystem to another (dry land, forest, and so on) and there even are dry season strains and rain season strains, with different flowering time, those which are harvested around Feb (dry season ones) being the fastest.

Irie !

 

[indifferent]

I would have thought the low lying coastal region of Sierra Leone was a pretty similar ecosystem to the low lying coastal region of ghana. The inland highland areas of Sierra Leone would be similar to the inland highland regions of ghana, no?

I realise there will be a wide range of types to be found, but I expect there will be some broad similarity due to the same latitude and similar climatic conditions. West Africa is a violent place and only Ghana and The Gambia have been peaceful for a long period so exploration of the cannabis genes in this region isn't that advanced as far as I know.

I'm having a nightmare cloning my Durbans. I took 6 cuttings of the first male, the one that hermied and all 6 rooted fast. Took 6 cuttings off the second later male and one from the earlier of the two females and 24 hours later they are pretty much dead, just wilted away, no idea why, never seen that happen before, no idea what I did wrong sadly.

 

[indifferent]

The Durbans those cuttings came from are doing well though, very nute sensitive so had a few burnt tips. I'll have to reveg these if they turn out nice. No signs or hermie-dom yet but I'm on daily ball patrol!

 

[Dave Coulier]

I haven't kept up with this thread in awhile, so forgive me if you've already said it, but whos Durban are you growing?

Its something Ive wanted to grow, and I was leaning towards Afro-Pips.

 

[mriko]

I would have thought the low lying coastal region of Sierra Leone was a pretty similar ecosystem to the low lying coastal region of ghana. The inland highland areas of Sierra Leone would be similar to the inland highland regions of ghana, no?

well, I'm not much into that lowland/highland distinction which I too oftenly find meaningless. I mean, take Mazar & Yarkhun strains, pretty much the same ones, but Mazar is at about 500m elevation, and yarkhun is at 3000 meters.
I've alas not visited (yet?) Sierra Leone or Ghana so I can't compare their ecosystem, but in that case the strains distinctions should be made based on the local populations, ethnic groups and their history & migrations, along with environmental factors of course. Lowland/highland is sure not enough in the present case.

I realise there will be a wide range of types to be found, but I expect there will be some broad similarity due to the same latitude and similar climatic conditions. West Africa is a violent place and only Ghana and The Gambia have been peaceful for a long period so exploration of the cannabis genes in this region isn't that advanced as far as I know.

the NGO I was working with inthe 90s happens to have conducted several field studies in West Africa, about grass of course, and I happen to have the reports. Probably somewhere in a cardboardbox, err... Will search for it.

Irie !

 

[indifferent]

I would love to see those reports if you happen to find them sometime. I think Africa is probably the best place to find landrace genes unpolluted by modern hybrid genes these days so I'm very interested in African genes and info about African strains.

Of course, I am purely speculating about the strains of west Africa, I have never been there but I have read some info about the wild cannabis of The Gambia and Ghana and both of those places have very large wild populations of cannabis according to what I have read. I would imagine that the other countries in west Africa also have wild populations but I'm guessing.

I did read a book about Operation Barras - the hostage rescue mission in 2000 carried out by the British SAS, SBS and Paras against The West Side Boys in Sierra Leone who had taken some peacekeepers hostage. The West Side boys were notorious not only for their cruelty and killing, but for their huge drug intake, including local cannabis, and members of the Parachute Regiment interviewed in the book I read talked about how all the West Side Boys were partying and 'off their heads' when they were attacked and they poured scorn on their heavy cannabis use, not because they disapproved of cannabis but because they were of the opinion you couldn't be an effective soldier stoned out of your tree!

Snippett of info from Wikipedia:

The West Side Boys were an armed group in Sierra Leone, sometimes described as a splinter faction of the Armed Forces Revolutionary Council. It captured and held members of a mostly West African peacekeeping force (including members of the Royal Irish Rangers) in 2000, and was subsequently destroyed by units of the British Special Air Service, Special Boat Service and Parachute Regiment during September 2000 in Operation Barras, and follow-up operations by the Sierra Leone Army and Royal Irish Rangers. The group was influenced to some extent by American rap and gangsta rap music, especially Tupac Shakur, and the "gangsta" culture portrayed therein.[1] The group was also known as the West Side Niggaz or West Side Junglers.[2] Since the former would have been an unacceptable phrase to be regularly used on news programmes, the title was amended to render it innocuous. Prior to their destruction, the group had expanded to around 400 members.

Many members of the group were children abducted after their parents had been killed by the "recruiters". Some of these children were forced to participate in torturing their parents to death in order to brutalise and dehumanise them. (See military use of children.) The West Side Boys were heavy users of homemade palm wine, locally grown marijuana, and heroin bought with conflict diamonds. Conflict diamonds were also used to purchase many of their weapons, which ranged from SLR rifles, AK-47 rifles and RPG-7 grenade launchers to 81 mm mortars and ZPU-2 anti-aircraft guns. Most of their vehicles were hijacked from UN food convoys. One of the hostages rescued during Operation Barras has also claimed that the West Side Boys were supplied with ammunition by corrupt Jordanian UN peacekeepers.

Another reason why I'm interested in West African strains is that I believe they had a significant input into the cannabis genepool of the Americas through the slave trade. Sierra Leone and The Gold Coast (Ghana) were two of the main places were slaves were exported from.

 

[oldbootz]

my mother was born in Sierra Leone

 

[sondeos]

NIGERIAN

NIGERIAN

progress of my NIGERIAN

Peace, love. nice vibes

 

[indifferent]

Muy muy bueno mi amigo!

Looks like those will be big cogollos by the time she is finished.

Pleased to report my Durban cuttings aren't all dead. The one from the female is pretty much dead, but the 6 from the male have started to recover and are not flopping over completely anymore, they have started to straighten up so with a bit of luck one of them will root. I'll have to reveg the female though, sadly. The other female hasn't been cloned yet, I'll take some of the smallest lower branches off today I think.

 

[oldbootz]

I'm having a nightmare cloning my Durbans. I took 6 cuttings of the first male, the one that hermied and all 6 rooted fast. Took 6 cuttings off the second later male and one from the earlier of the two females and 24 hours later they are pretty much dead, just wilted away, no idea why, never seen that happen before, no idea what I did wrong sadly.

can you explain your cloning method?

dome / no dome
mist the plants regularily / not
rooting compound?
lower node chopped off to root from?

the pure sativas tend to have thinner more delicate leaves then the indicas and hybrids. my best success with them is to clone with coco coir in a air tight cake tin and never mist them or the dome ever. just air the dome a couple times a day. chop off leaf tips as well to help the plant perspire less water.

peace
OB

 

[lasko]

Indifferent do as oldboots said i do similar
When makin cuts there are two important things
1. look that there is at least one node underground
2. when put cut in medium press the medium well that stem have a good contact with medium
If you shorten the leaves also help as you stop evaporation a little. Cuts on your pics are asking for water IMO bad contact with medium and to low RH, you dont need to mist them, just put them in a propagator.

 

[indifferent]

Hi guys

Reason I'm mystified is these are the first clones I've had any problems with in my setup, I usually get 8 or 9 out of 10 to root. Out of the first 6 Durbans, all 6 rooted like champs, that cutting I showed with all the roots was a Durban, so no idea why the second batch dropped like that. I checked today and they are recovering, I misted them with Phyt-a-min, superthrive, humic acid and seaweed today and they seemed to like it.

I have a little cabinet I clone it, the tray is heated and on a timer running 15mins on, 15 mins off, I only use the heat during winter.

Temps stay constant at 22-23C, rh is around 85%.

I use organic cloning gel and I always make sure there are one or two nodes in the jiffy. I'm always careful to ensure full contact between stem and jiffy as this is important.

Ah well, put it down to experience and make some more cuts i guess.

 

[wotamess]

HEY!

you may wanna try water cloning? it's a fail safe, but the rooting takes FOREVER!! good luck can't wait to see those swazis

just remembered a wonderful conversation i had with a guy while visiting the eastern cape recently. he grew up in the port st johns area of the transkei, and still goes a few times a year. he said he'd been to the farmers, recently, after the concerted attempt to destroy the trade by government sparying earlier this millenium. they took a huge knock, but are back on their feet, as the main crop of TK no.1 in that area is a... CLONE ONLY!! i shit you not. loads of peoples patches were destroyed, but the plants that made it have been redistributed...

apparently they keep patches of giant mother plants that are gently harvested and trimmed, and then when the reveg has given enough new growth, HUGE 30cm to 1/2m cuttings are taken, braches chopped off, exactly as you trim a cutting, up to the top foliage, and inserted directly into the earth. it's a fascinating story, that throws a whole new angle on the scenario...

my main question would be whether the originals were a few different pheno's, or a single uber pheno!! i'm guessing that when the technique was discovered by them, they singled out whatever was in their own gardens and got on with it... he wasn't sure about seed lines, as he's not a grower, but he said he'd ask around next time he went.

anyway, laters!!

-wam-