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Afghan seeds actually from Afghanistan
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In 2013 I got a hand full of seeds from a friend who was at a family-visit. They're supposed to be comming from the village of Ujnu, in the region of Badakhshan, not far from the Hindu Kush region.
So far, I've only managed to successfully pop two of them (it appears most won't germinate), one male, one female. Both plants are really, really slow in veg, but they're great and certainly different from what I've grown and known before.
So far, I've only managed to successfully pop two of them (it appears most won't germinate), one male, one female. Both plants are really, really slow in veg, but they're great and certainly different from what I've grown and known before.
I got 5 beans from a friend whose brother was a "UN Observer" in Afghanistan. He sent about 100 beans to the States via "diplomatic pouch", all 5 of mine germinated, 2 grew super well with 1 being a keeper.
I have been at a consumer of excellent weed for about a half a century now--and this particular strain certainly is not the strongest (THC) but is my "go-to" herb. It is one of the better tasting smokes I have had (complex but sweet, as in over-ripe-fruit-like, no nastiness, no citrus or any of that "herbal savory"). It also has that "lay's potato chip" addictive complication, as in--"just can't have just one"--it commands you to have a 2nd hit, then a 3rd...etc.
I have been at a consumer of excellent weed for about a half a century now--and this particular strain certainly is not the strongest (THC) but is my "go-to" herb. It is one of the better tasting smokes I have had (complex but sweet, as in over-ripe-fruit-like, no nastiness, no citrus or any of that "herbal savory"). It also has that "lay's potato chip" addictive complication, as in--"just can't have just one"--it commands you to have a 2nd hit, then a 3rd...etc.
Kush_Kloud
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Doctim420 do you have any pictures of this Afghani strain? Also mohadib do you have any more seeds? Or did you make anymore seeds?
Alien tech from obsoul33t came straight from afghanistan, brought back by a US soldier. Not available in seed form, but he made hybrids that became fairly popular. Alien kush is prob the best known. People have made entire seed companies based off it.
FireIn.TheSky
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I got some of the Gn collection Mazar I Sharif seeds that came back from Afganistan from a soldier that went there.
They were interesting to grow but nothing I would grow again.
Herbies was giving away some pure afghan seeds as freebies, I got a few packs of them. They're probably still giving them away
There's a few threads on here about the herbies afghans.
They were interesting to grow but nothing I would grow again.
Herbies was giving away some pure afghan seeds as freebies, I got a few packs of them. They're probably still giving them away
There's a few threads on here about the herbies afghans.
No pics, but I have been growing this strain for about hmmmm, 3 years or so. She produces a beautiful "purple/blue" when the temp hi/lo in the room is about 15 degrees. Around 30 days the purpling starts and becomes real prominent at 60 days. Take her to 75 days (last week with no water) and she emits that sickening rotten over ripe sweet fruit aroma (reminiscence to a sweet chocolope).
Skinny leaf (which lead me to think more "sativa" than "indica"--but definitely an indica leanner), slow grower and a below average yielder (about 75% compared to my other strains--but veg twice as long and she becomes competitive and worthy to produce). Short squatty buds in flower--but fast on the preflowers in veg (2 weeks and poof, they are at every node). She emits the same fragrance/aroma when you take cuttings, remove lower branches or break/disturb roots.
I wish she was more potent...but, like I said, she is my go-to smoke for the evening.
Kush_Kloud
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DocTim420 is your Afghani strain a clone only, or did you make more seeds?
I'd love some fresh Afghani genepool to come state side.
Growers in the west, I don't think we really understand how large the genepool and pheno type variations are like in full there.
The growing environments vary so greatly, as well as there being maintained drug crop genetics, although widely bred, certainly vary from the wild plant all throughout the country.
Growers in the west, I don't think we really understand how large the genepool and pheno type variations are like in full there.
The growing environments vary so greatly, as well as there being maintained drug crop genetics, although widely bred, certainly vary from the wild plant all throughout the country.
Right now she is a clone only, thinking about mating her with a strong (faster growing) male that lacks "stink"--since this "lil rotten" girl has the kinky-sweet stink she needs, lol. The purpling had me suspicious of it's orgin--but after sharing a few beers with an ole-timer, he said purple Afghan is "rare" but also "common" in the highland regions (colder air/greater UV exposure?)...and the fruitiness aspect will usually go hand-in-hand with the purple pigment trait.
Kinda looks like this pic--(which is from another ICMag member's gallary...which I thank in advance).
Skinny dark purple leaves with squatty purple buds covered in white trichs. Even the stem/stalk will change from dark green to purple.
Hmmm, start a seed company from a rare Afghan strain...interesting notion--and this old dog is not afraid to learn new tricks.
Skinny dark purple leaves with squatty purple buds covered in white trichs. Even the stem/stalk will change from dark green to purple.
Hmmm, start a seed company from a rare Afghan strain...interesting notion--and this old dog is not afraid to learn new tricks.
Take an interesting Afghani pheno, cross it out to a better known Afghani that's around and then backcross it to the new Ghani, it would likely open up the genepool to something we've not experienced yet.
The thin leaves on a squat indica is already interesting.
Myself, I'm just wondering what are some terpenes we've not come across yet, and their overall effect?
I'd buy a few packs if they were up at one of the banks.
Landrace indica has a special place in my heart.
Taking the region's best and pulling out the best sedative and stimulant phenos, interesting terpenes, etc.
I have a feeling the cannabis world and gene pool is going to only get better once the government loosens its grip.
We need more groups like ACE and CBG, willing to take in landrace and make the best expressions available in seed form to the masses of growers looking for the right meds worldwide.
The thin leaves on a squat indica is already interesting.
Myself, I'm just wondering what are some terpenes we've not come across yet, and their overall effect?
I'd buy a few packs if they were up at one of the banks.
Landrace indica has a special place in my heart.
Taking the region's best and pulling out the best sedative and stimulant phenos, interesting terpenes, etc.
I have a feeling the cannabis world and gene pool is going to only get better once the government loosens its grip.
We need more groups like ACE and CBG, willing to take in landrace and make the best expressions available in seed form to the masses of growers looking for the right meds worldwide.
Lays chips, lol that's funny....
Thanks guys for sharing, back in early 2000's I crossed sensi seeds (when they were still a good seedbank imo) afghan#1 and crossed with Legend seeds ultimate Indica and it made a super squat heavy branched cross, I grew it for 2 years outdoors it wasn't hard to get 4oz off a really small plant and was easy to hide other than the freaking stank, I was very active on overgrow and I shared the seed I shipped them all over the world Italy Spain Australia, im just curious if some still grow it???
I had made a shit load of seed and instead of putting them in the freezer I stored them in a pint jar, we lived in a basement house and the got moisture in them and ruined them. I called it ultimate Afghan and it was a super strain I also that next season crossed Sweet tooth ( the original strain gifted to me by breeder Steve himself) with his blockhead and it was a awesome strain it was very fast to finish and threw donkey dick buds I wish I had pics to share, those seed spoiled also.....
I had made a shit load of seed and instead of putting them in the freezer I stored them in a pint jar, we lived in a basement house and the got moisture in them and ruined them. I called it ultimate Afghan and it was a super strain I also that next season crossed Sweet tooth ( the original strain gifted to me by breeder Steve himself) with his blockhead and it was a awesome strain it was very fast to finish and threw donkey dick buds I wish I had pics to share, those seed spoiled also.....
Yes, I have some seeds left. I'll probably try to pop them next spring, when my tents are a little emptier...
And yes, I made seeds by crossing the two. I have yet to try them, but expect some nice plants from that batch, especially since the male has already shown it's potential in other crosses I made - it's extremely dominant. All the crosses I tested yet looked like a copy of it, which is certainly a good thing. It also cranks up yields and seems to add a very nice earthy eucalyptus note to whatever you cross it to.
Kush_Kloud
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Mohadib I'm glad to hear the good news! I'll be looking forward to your next grow of this Afghani landrace next spring. I'm excited to see what these genetics look like when you post some pictures. The earthy eucalyptus smell could be a good trait to breed with and towards. For eucalyptus essential oil is good for the treatment of respiratory problems, wounds, and muscle pain, also eucalyptus is a useful aid in fighting inflammation, congestion, and bacteria. The terpene 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) in eucalyptus essential oil is a vasliodialator that helps increase blood flow to the brain. Also 1,8-cineole can improve cognitive performance when inhaled. So it would be nice to see what terpenes are in this strain.
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For those who can't travel to Afghanistan to collected their own seeds..
Derg Corra Collective has offered Helmand Afghani which was originally collected by a soldier, re-produced in Denmark, i think.
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Phylos Galaxy hash sample called Afghan Kush which is related to Northern Lights and some US kushes.
https://testing.phylosbioscience.com/sample/genotype/5old4ygv/
It's true origins isn't mentioned, but i think it could be from World of Seeds' Afghan Kush. I have found piney types from WOS's Afghan Kush and Northern Lights is piney, as is OG Kush which is apparently related to NL, according to info on Phylos Galaxy.
WOS might be making these seeds from their own parents now in Spain(?), but originally the genetics were collected from the valleys of Amu Darya river, not too far from Mazar i Sharif. So it's quite possible it's related to old hash cultivars, feral genetics that is.
Not all plants are winners but the seeds are quite cheap. There is some variation but there is very good plants in the mix as well. Some are very fast flowering, potent and frosty. Aromas range from fruity to piney-sweaty- hash to earthy.
World of Seeds Bank - Afgan Kush
Comes from mountainous system of Hindu Kush (north of Afghanistan).
Another pure land-race indica Kush, grows wild in the valleys of Armu Darya river valley that border with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. It's a variety very stable (almost 100% indica) and probably has been the fruit of successive cross-backs between wild varieties Kush since the different races Kush, grow nearly itself in a geographic zone relatively reduced.
Powerful, smells like the best afgani hashish,we can consider a very valuable like a medicinal chemo-type.
Way of cropping: Mainly indoor/very good yield outdoor
Race: Pure race obtained from the Afgani Kush zone
Genotype: Almost 100% Indica
High: Less than 1.5 m indoor/ until 2 meters outdoor
Wide: Depending on prune. Some branched without prune
Growing time: Three weeks
Harvest time: 45-55 days indoor/average October outdoor/pollitano
Resistance to mushrooms: Average
Resistance to plague: Depends on the plague
Irrigation tolerance: High tolerance to frequent irrigation and fertilization
Yield: Over 400 gr per m2 indoor/ 500 - 600 gr per plant outdoor
Medicinal value: High (for its high content in CBD).Excellent like anti-emetic and antispasmodic
Smell: Hashish.
Flavor: Fruity-sweet.
Effects: Very narcotic, almost devastating
THC Level: 21.6% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids. 7.4% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids (determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)
Derg Corra Collective has offered Helmand Afghani which was originally collected by a soldier, re-produced in Denmark, i think.
++++
Phylos Galaxy hash sample called Afghan Kush which is related to Northern Lights and some US kushes.
https://testing.phylosbioscience.com/sample/genotype/5old4ygv/
It's true origins isn't mentioned, but i think it could be from World of Seeds' Afghan Kush. I have found piney types from WOS's Afghan Kush and Northern Lights is piney, as is OG Kush which is apparently related to NL, according to info on Phylos Galaxy.
WOS might be making these seeds from their own parents now in Spain(?), but originally the genetics were collected from the valleys of Amu Darya river, not too far from Mazar i Sharif. So it's quite possible it's related to old hash cultivars, feral genetics that is.
Not all plants are winners but the seeds are quite cheap. There is some variation but there is very good plants in the mix as well. Some are very fast flowering, potent and frosty. Aromas range from fruity to piney-sweaty- hash to earthy.
World of Seeds Bank - Afgan Kush
Comes from mountainous system of Hindu Kush (north of Afghanistan).
Another pure land-race indica Kush, grows wild in the valleys of Armu Darya river valley that border with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. It's a variety very stable (almost 100% indica) and probably has been the fruit of successive cross-backs between wild varieties Kush since the different races Kush, grow nearly itself in a geographic zone relatively reduced.
Powerful, smells like the best afgani hashish,we can consider a very valuable like a medicinal chemo-type.
Way of cropping: Mainly indoor/very good yield outdoor
Race: Pure race obtained from the Afgani Kush zone
Genotype: Almost 100% Indica
High: Less than 1.5 m indoor/ until 2 meters outdoor
Wide: Depending on prune. Some branched without prune
Growing time: Three weeks
Harvest time: 45-55 days indoor/average October outdoor/pollitano
Resistance to mushrooms: Average
Resistance to plague: Depends on the plague
Irrigation tolerance: High tolerance to frequent irrigation and fertilization
Yield: Over 400 gr per m2 indoor/ 500 - 600 gr per plant outdoor
Medicinal value: High (for its high content in CBD).Excellent like anti-emetic and antispasmodic
Smell: Hashish.
Flavor: Fruity-sweet.
Effects: Very narcotic, almost devastating
THC Level: 21.6% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids. 7.4% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids (determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)
Yeah, so am I
For now all I have are some pics of the two original plants:
Afghani Female:
Kush_Kloud
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These plants look very attractive Mohadib. I like the dark green serrated leaves. They Kinda remind me of the Chemdog 91' Skunk VA clone. Also I am loving the columnar plant structure and thick stems. The female has a nice pointy bud formation, good resin production, and beautiful vibrant bright orange stigmas. Were the seeds collected in the Hindu Kush highlands or in the Mountain valleys? Also was the region a known old hash producing area, or a recently new hash producing area?
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