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Advice, tips or tricks for building and running a sealed room needed.

LEDNewbie

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Not sure who it was that said the Santa Fe classic was handling there 10 lighter no problem?? Cause my classic is barely handling my 3 lighter!!! Maybe cause I have a very dense canopy?? I guess I will test that theory when I do my defoliation in a week?? But as if right now the best my classic can do when my a/c isn't running is about 65%. With a/c on it get down around 55%.....
 

Treetroit City

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Interesting LED. It was Veg N Out that had said his classic did the job for a 10 lighter. My Compact 2 is having no problems keeping it right at 50%, although I must admit I have 3 different digital RH meters and they all read way different.

One will read 35%, another 50% and another won't register, meaning it's under 20%.

I go by my data logger which is the one reading 50%. Not sure that I really want to invest in a lab quality one. Guess as long as I don't have mold I'm happy.

LED, is your room really big relative to the 3 lights you're running? That's the only reason I could see your Classic having any difficulty doing it's job.

Well last night I got my second Reflectix screen built and hung. This really gets light to the back side of some plants that were lacking. Until I decide to hang a couple more lights, this is the perfect solution.

Basically went from 12x13 to 12x9 thus increasing my W.S.F. from 29 to 42.

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And what the hell, a plant shot. Paco's Red Headed Stranger. Day 39.

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LEDNewbie

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My room is 12x16x8. My canopy is a dense solid 5x16.... I calculated what I'm catching from the classic and it roughly 2.6 litres every hour to hour and a half. Which puts its output at 88-100 pints per day, closer to the 88 figure. Think I should give them a call and ask what's up? What should I say I'm using it for? Hahahaha
 

Smokin Joe

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My room is 12x16x8. My canopy is a dense solid 5x16.... I calculated what I'm catching from the classic and it roughly 2.6 litres every hour to hour and a half. Which puts its output at 88-100 pints per day, closer to the 88 figure. Think I should give them a call and ask what's up? What should I say I'm using it for? Hahahaha
An herb garden :biggrin:
 

merkaba

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Very nice build! I love some properly built rooms. So often folks fail to address the environment correctly. All the time and money spent on snake oil or the latest bulb/ballast/additive,etc. would produce much more immediate and lasting results if applied to the environment and room design...in my opinion.
 

whatthe215

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i always thought that this AC install stuff was really complicated but I watched my guy put my new 5 ton unit in the other day and it ain't too bad.

putting the units/lines in is just physical labor, nothing hard at all.

i could totally get copper hot and melt it onto more copper to seal the lines. i could totally purge the condenser, vacuum it down and then attach an upside down refrigerant tank. easy as pie.

i'm gonna pickup an oxy acetylene torch and stronger non automotive vac next time i install a unit and let this thread teach me all the specifics. why hire an AC guy when you can do it yourself, especially in our trade.

thanks Third! :)
 
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Puscifer

Third Coast, is that the back of the window unit sticking out in the flower room?
 
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Puscifer

Nevermind, I see it's the dehuey...
Superb build brother, enjoy the fruits of your labor:ying:
 

Treetroit City

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Very nice build! I love some properly built rooms. So often folks fail to address the environment correctly. All the time and money spent on snake oil or the latest bulb/ballast/additive,etc. would produce much more immediate and lasting results if applied to the environment and room design...in my opinion.

Thanks merkaba! I hope you get your dtw coco rocking. As you can see I don't have this room set up for that yet but it's coming soon. Had to let the credit card stop smoking for a minute.

i always thought that this AC install stuff was really complicated but I watched my guy put my new 5 ton unit in the other day and it ain't too bad.

putting the units/lines in is just physical labor, nothing hard at all.

i could totally get copper hot and melt it onto more copper to seal the lines. i could totally purge the condenser, vacuum it down and then attach an upside down refrigerant tank. easy as pie.

i'm gonna pickup an oxy acetylene torch and stronger non automotive vac next time i install a unit and let this thread teach me all the specifics. why hire an AC guy when you can do it yourself, especially in our trade.

thanks Third! :)

Thanks brother. Loving the 30K funhouse build out. I'll definitely be poppin in your thread to check progress.

Best of luck to ya!

Nevermind, I see it's the dehuey...
Superb build brother, enjoy the fruits of your labor:ying:

Thanks again Puscifer. I like the fact that the dehuey hangs on the wall like that cause I plan to get another light or two so I wouldn't really have any room on the floor for a Classic.

Big thanks to all the folks here that helped me realize this dream of mine. A few more odds and ends and this will be finished.


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the.rise

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So what do you have controlling the various elements in your system right now? I see the Titan light timer but are you using any of their other products? My main concern right now is that the Gavitas can go up to 1150W @240V which means 8 of them will pull 9200W where the system is "designed" for up to 9600W @ 240V. I don't know what kind of safety factors they designed for in these products and I don't want to be tripping any breakers that need to be manually reset when 8 lights start up simultaneously.
 

the gnome

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I don't want to be tripping any breakers that need to be manually reset when 8 lights start up simultaneously.

for under $70 you can easily build a box using a power relay to start 4 1000w at a time and have a sequential start on 4 lamps a pop for your 8000w of lites and use a 110v $12 digital timer for each box to do it.

I'm building a controller for 1/4 the cost or less of a premade one,
I have 6000w of lamps with sequential start up,
I'll run sequ. start 2 at a time using the plans for a very easy to make 4 1000W lamp box.
1 power 250V relay will control 1 to 4 1000w lamps.
you need a power relay and timer for how you want to configure
you can start up 2 at a time or 3 or 4 lamps on this relay
 
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Skyrancher

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Thanks for the thread TC...I'm planning a very similar sized sealed room with Gavita's, so you're build helped a lot. I'll look for your grow next.
 
Wow... nice and thorough!

First thread in QUITE some time I've actually read all the way through... i was supposed to be sleep hours ago....but NNOOOOOOO, I had to stumble across this gem.. lots of good info in here.. I'm building a flip flip room very shortly, and will need to rig up a window banger to cool 2 flower rooms, via sealed-"ish"... it may actually be sealed if i get it set up the right was...or should I say, if it works the way it does in my head lol!
I bkmarked that Breeze... may be my next buy... $1700 is a small price to pay for what it'll give you in the next turn around...

On with the show...

Hey G, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask a couple A/C q's....

This just happened to me to... Almost 5am now and I'm on page 10...

I'm currently planning a 10x13 flower room, so getting lots of good ideas from here. Can't wait to finish the thread and see how it's progressed. Sure I'll have plenty of questions :)

Thanks for sharing!
 
When I was reading last night on my phone, I was hoping the pics weren't loading just because I was on mobile. Now I'm on my desktop and see all the links are broken :( Are they stored anywhere so I can fill in my imagination? :)
 
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