Advice for first growhouse (southeast)

[cosmoline]

You'd do better securtiy wise if you started leeching off your friends for a time. Say veg through late flower. Invest in a good timer.

Thought about it and this seems like the best option. Plenty of people rent a place and don't always sleep/hang out there all of the time.

I wouldnt have anyone over the house. You would be better off telling people you rent a room and the house owner is an ass/bitch, etc.

Now that I think about it, I think this is gona be my mode of action.

yamaha_1fan: re smell: people say a carbon filter is all you need but opening and closing the door is gona let smell seep out. I have a 15,000v franceformer which I plan on wiring up to one of those countdown bathroom fan wall timers, gona make a ozone pumping corona discharge unit that I will run for 30 mins after I close the grow door before I open the house door or let anyone over. The house might end up smelling like a rainstorm but sure as hell wont smell like bud.

 

[oohcow]

you seem to have it figured out. there is no one that can convince you otherwise.

so get to it, and start building.

EDIT: forgot my piece of advice.

Fuck the benzos... people act a fool on benzos... just take a small drink of whiskey to calm your nerves.... and you want this for money? smoke a 1/4 outta your harvest. limit to that and you'll be good

 

[Lord Doobie]

it's always fun when the landlord visits unexpectedly...and repeatedly...all year long...year after year...
a grow house here just got busted for using 4 times the amount of electricity as norml
perhaps a generator in the basement exhausting out the window would remedy this
if you must, I'd seriously consider moving to where growing is legal...unfortunately, it's usually on the other side of the world

 

[NiteTiger]

I think you'll find that starting personal will be much more beneficial than you think.

Just from a security standpoint, a closet is not subject to inspection usually. Landlords have a right to insure the safety and good maintenance of the home, but only in the most general sense. An inspection of the common areas of the home is deemed sufficient.

Most inspections require 24 hours notice, except in case of an emergency. Which is why growing in a rented apt is generally considered a bad thing, but many many folks grow in rented -homes-. In an apt, you can have your shit together perfectly, and some other dumb ass overflows his toilet and people are knocking on your door.

In a house, the landlord issue is much reduced. Just interview the landlords like they're interviewing you. You're looking for the absentee landlord. Maybe he/she will cut you a break on the rent if you agree to cover repairs under $500 yourself. Plus, you'll do your own yard work. What you want is what landlords dream of

Then, if you're running small, like a closet, just live your life well. Be golden. Be the good neighbor, no, the great neighbor. Lawn always in check. Halloween decorations, Christmas lights, whole nine Norman Rockwell yards. Even if it makes you choke.

Have friends over, you don't want to be that weird hermit down the street. But very low key, a cookout is fine, a kegger is not. A couple of friends over to watch the game, not the screaming super bowl bash that lined both sides of the street. Friends got no reason to be in your room, right? Much less your closet.

Control your grow, live your life.

A well managed closet will put out plenty to keep you swimming in smoke, plus quite a bit to feather the nest, if you'd like. I'm putting a 1kw in a closet, and I've gotten, consistently, 2+ zips /per plant, pulling about 4 plants every 30 days.

I suppose that would make a respectable side income, I, of course, wouldn't know

Control your grow, live your life.

Start small, and grow into it, if you'll pardon the pun. Run the closet, and if you can't make that fit your needs, maybe you ramp up. If you've been the great neighbor for a year, and you're grow is in check (and your nerve has held - you'll be surprised ), then flip-flopping that 1k shouldn't be a thing.

If you can't make it with 2kw runnin', you're doin' it wrong. If you don't have the patience to do it this way, then you shouldn't be doing it at all.

Control your grow, live your life.

 

[aeburnside]

great advice NiteTiger!

 

[RudolfTheRed]

I wrote this out yesterday but decided to delete it because my post was riddling with cuss words and I didn't want you to take it the wrong way. I just cuss a lot. Never personal. I speak like a drunken sailor who has been out at sea for 20 years. I can thank my father for it.
Anyway, it sounds like you want to grow for money right? So basically you will be growing on a smaller scale commercially. My guess is you will be busted rather quickly and I don't want to see it happen.
Julian, a regular member in the outdoor growing section and a guy who has more knowledge about growing commercially than just about anyone will agree with me here, stay in school and get your education instead. The best dollar for dollar payoff in life is a good education. And as previously stated do a small personal grow in a closet while you go to school.
Being a convicted felon is not fun. Doing a few months or even a few years in jail sucks and you have already said a few things that I think could get you busted. If your already making mistakes on the easy stuff what makes you think you can pull this off? You were ready to break the biggest rule of them all. NEVER INVITE ANYONE, EVER, OVER TO YOUR GROW!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought anyone who wanted to grow commercial could at least know that one.

For instance...

Who's to say I can't have a friend or lady over? If the grow is hidden behind a locked, lightproof door it shouldn't matter. Not having anyone over is pretty sketchy too.

Okay, now I know you just said you wouldn't have people over but something tells me you'll break this rule and even if you don't what lady are you talking about? If your growing commercially kiss your love life good-bye. There is no lady. That lady will get you busted. This type of crap happens all the damn time.
Secondly, if you do have people over you don't think there going to wonder why that door is locked all the time to that other room? You don't think they'll hear fans, etc.? Smell? Just because you don't smell it don't mean someone else can't.
Third, your plan for when the cops comes is horrible. A compactor to the toilet?? You don't think the cops will just break the door down and come in ANYWAY??


Now let me go back to what I was talking about previously. If your busted are you ready to deal with the harsh laws that exist in the southeast?? Laws around here aren't like those cupcake laws they got in Canada and on the West Coast. You get caught manufacturing or distributing in the southeast and you are fucked. That is just reality. You ready to deal with that??
And you might say yes. But think about that question, again, and again, and again.

ugh... i know i am rambling i just hope you listen. you sound like a youngin and this will probably go through one ear and out the other, but whatever. good luck anyway.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

im going to be real with you. this aint about no fucking "ying and yang" shit,,, dont matter how much you contribute to unicef or goodwill,,, karma aint going to work for you and this is surely not a fucking war. i dont know what the fuck most of these people have been smoking,,, but im guessing its been out of brilllo.

keep your mind off this spiritual thought bullshit. if your serious about this,,, rent the house,,, wire it up,, and get to doing what your doing.

and since your a student,,, just tell everyone you live with yer moms and she dont let you have no one over. you dont need to be playing host....and nows not time to get your ego up. keep under the radar and youll stay safe..

ps::::stay off those fucking benzos

 

[johnbobit]

1)WOMEN
2)SMELL
3)POWER USAGE/HEAT
4)WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5)BIG MOUTH

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

also>>> 3k not even semi commerical

in fact,,, i know a person who grows 6k,,, but is a medical patient and only allowed 6 flowering plants. but him veg em out real long and give each light a full 1k,,, so they pull almost 2 pound per plant and its all personal use.

so REMEMBER::::them ALWAYS go by #s always and LEO rule of thumb ::::

1 plant = 1 pound,,,,regardless of operation


some these people saying 99 inna S.O.G. ??? >>>terrible idea unless you using VERY LITTLE energy like dr.budgreens

lets see,,, 99 x 2 (cause your going to need to have plants ready for flower as soon as your cycle is harvested) and since your doing SOG you probably have 5-15 mothers. if you get busted ,,, your running almost a million dollar operation,,, while MAYBE pulling 2-5lbs per cycle.

you can get bigger yields wit less plants if you know what yer doing

 

[hamstring]

also>>> 3k not even semi commerical

in fact,,, i know a person who grows 6k,,, but is a medical patient and only allowed 6 flowering plants. but him veg em out real long and give each light a full 1k,,, so they pull almost 2 pound per plant and its all personal use.

so REMEMBER::::them ALWAYS go by #s always and LEO rule of thumb ::::

1 plant = 1 pound,,,,regardless of operation


some these people saying 99 inna S.O.G. ??? >>>terrible idea unless you using VERY LITTLE energy like dr.budgreens

lets see,,, 99 x 2 (cause your going to need to have plants ready for flower as soon as your cycle is harvested) and since your doing SOG you probably have 5-15 mothers. if you get busted ,,, your running almost a million dollar operation,,, while MAYBE pulling 2-5lbs per cycle.

you can get bigger yields wit less plants if you know what yer doing

Are you in a med MJ state it sounds like you maybe?

 

[indicapimp]

also>>> 3k not even semi commerical

in fact,,, i know a person who grows 6k,,, but is a medical patient and only allowed 6 flowering plants. but him veg em out real long and give each light a full 1k,,, so they pull almost 2 pound per plant and its all personal use.

so REMEMBER::::them ALWAYS go by #s always and LEO rule of thumb ::::

1 plant = 1 pound,,,,regardless of operation


some these people saying 99 inna S.O.G. ??? >>>terrible idea unless you using VERY LITTLE energy like dr.budgreens

lets see,,, 99 x 2 (cause your going to need to have plants ready for flower as soon as your cycle is harvested) and since your doing SOG you probably have 5-15 mothers. if you get busted ,,, your running almost a million dollar operation,,, while MAYBE pulling 2-5lbs per cycle.

you can get bigger yields wit less plants if you know what yer doing

"Oh, I didn't know you wanted to be part of the conversation Mr. Helper"

Look first off you do not need 15 Mother Plants to produce 200 clones every 120days on a 60 day stagger. Second, I do not think that most commercial growers want to veg a plant out for four months @3k x 24hrs. At best starting off he could expect 1/2 elbow per planet x 8 plants which is 4lbs over a six month operation. I would not even waste the money trying to cool a room during the summer growing indoors with 3k of lights. So one pull per year is 8k-10kish. less expenses maybe clear 6-7k. Not worth the time. Go out and get a real job and forget about the problems associated with this line of work.

If Not go Big or Go home.......

im going to be real with you. this aint about no fucking "ying and yang" shit,,, dont matter how much you contribute to unicef or goodwill,,, karma aint going to work for you and this is surely not a fucking war. i dont know what the fuck most of these people have been smoking,,, but im guessing its been out of brilllo.

keep your mind off this spiritual thought bullshit. if your serious about this,,, rent the house,,, wire it up,, and get to doing what your doing.

Sorry not a GANGSTA and I do not want to hijack this thread...BUT Ying=Reward Yang=Risk. Fuck it, it is spiritual to grow under the Thumb of LEOs Law's. I bet most feel the same way, if you are are detached and just "WIRING IT UP" then that is probably how most of your life is lived.

War, I do not know what else to call it. Fucking LEO want's to harm me and a family as bad as he can. He will fucking LIE, Cheat and cause the most harm possible in the process. The only reason this isn't a "REAL" war is most growers do not attempt to fight back in an aggressive posture like Fucking LEO! Not a disadvantage though, just have to think everything through a lot more.

My two cents...

Hit Dat!

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

"Oh, I didn't know you wanted to be part of the conversation Mr. Helper"

Look first off you do not need 15 Mother Plants to produce 200 clones every 120days on a 60 day stagger. Second, I do not think that most commercial growers want to veg a plant out for four months @3k x 24hrs. At best starting off he could expect 1/2 elbow per planet x 8 plants which is 4lbs over a six month operation. I would not even waste the money trying to cool a room during the summer growing indoors with 3k of lights. So one pull per year is 8k-10kish. less expenses maybe clear 6-7k. Not worth the time. Go out and get a real job and forget about the problems associated with this line of work.

If Not go Big or Go home.......




Sorry not a GANGSTA and I do not want to hijack this thread...BUT Ying=Reward Yang=Risk. Fuck it, it is spiritual to grow under the Thumb of LEOs Law's. I bet most feel the same way, if you are are detached and just "WIRING IT UP" then that is probably how most of your life is lived.

War, I do not know what else to call it. Fucking LEO want's to harm me and a family as bad as he can. He will fucking LIE, Cheat and cause the most harm possible in the process. The only reason this isn't a "REAL" war is most growers do not attempt to fight back in an aggressive posture like Fucking LEO! Not a disadvantage though, just have to think everything through a lot more.

My two cents...

Hit Dat!

first off,,,this kid aint a fucking commercial grower, hes a college student trying to get some extra change not working a shit job. if you think 3k is commercial,,, then your a fucking moron.

and who vegs 4 months under 1ks ??? im making a point you can grow a ton of fucking weed,,, while not having to do it with hundres of plants. and since he not that experienced,,, it would be better to do a few plants that will YIELD,,,than hundreds of plants that will get a few grams a piece....


go big or go home?

shit,,,indica sound more and more like LEO,,,from his perspective and advice,, you would see federal sentancing if you ever get popped.

and this isnt a fucking war dipshit,,,this is a #s game. if this was a WAR they would cut your fucking throat rape your wife,,, take your kids to sell as slaves and burn your house to the fucking ground.

theyd go after every grower,,,every dealer,,, every end turn user.

but they dont give a SHIT about the majority of us smokers,, they want big fish ,,, the people with the wieght or the money


and karma,,,yingyang,,,is all bull shit. i have seen the nicest people have the worst things happend to them. so quit spouting that fucking hippy jargin

 

[NiteTiger]

C'mon, quit with the LEO BS, there is no need for that shit, way out of line.

Unfortunately, you're wrong about the war. They do go after every single one, and they do care about the casual smoker - over 90% of arrests for Marijuana are for simple possession.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

C'mon, quit with the LEO BS, there is no need for that shit, way out of line.

Unfortunately, you're wrong about the war. They do go after every single one, and they do care about the casual smoker - over 90% of arrests for Marijuana are for simple possession.

more out of line then telling a new grower to grow hundreds of plants and that they should "go big or go home" ????

....and coming from someone who has almost ZERO reputation???

you would have to be a complete FOOL to listen to that nonsense.


and that 90% are for simple IGNORANCE,,,,

whens the last time youve EVER heard anyone getting busted for being an end turn user,,,smoking in their own house???

anytime someone is busted is usally because they are buying ,, selling,, or smoking in public view

if they did care about casual smoker,, they would raid every single person with a medical cannabis reccomendation,,,every person that comes out of the local grow store,,,and every person coming out of a headshop.



this is not a war... this is about budget justification and protecting special intrests in the name of "public safety"

 

[hamstring]

more out of line then telling a new grower to grow hundreds of plants and that they should "go big or go home" ????

....and coming from someone who has almost ZERO reputation???

you would have to be a complete FOOL to listen to that nonsense.


and that 90% are for simple IGNORANCE,,,,

whens the last time youve EVER heard anyone getting busted for being an end turn user,,,smoking in their own house???

anytime someone is busted is usally because they are buying ,, selling,, or smoking in public view

if they did care about casual smoker,, they would raid every single person with a medical cannabis reccomendation,,,every person that comes out of the local grow store,,,and every person coming out of a headshop.



this is not a war... this is about budget justification and protecting special intrests in the name of "public safety"

Are you in a Med MJ state?? Sounds like you are.

 

[Muleskinner]

Most important considerations:

1) adequate exhaust fan horsepower and carbon filter. The expensive centrifugal fans are quieter, don't skimp. Good design to keep intake and outake quite and hidden.

2) location of grow. The 2nd bedroom idea sucks IMO. It's going to be small house, there is no way to explain the locked door. Any stoner friends or girlfriend will figure out what's behind the locked door in no time. LANDLORD VISIT will be your worst problem.

There are lots of different rentals in college towns, I strongly suggest you pick one with a dry basement, or better yet, an attic. Attic is by FAR the best. Even your girlfriend, best friend, and landlord have no reason to go into the attic. As somenoe else mentioned there are many utility reasons to go into the basement. Put a lock on the door and tell them you store expensive hobby equipment (Photography, skiing, computers, musical instruments, etc) up there and you've been robbed before.

I would try to find a place with a walk-up attic (stairway). Also: don't rent a POS house that is falling apart. You will have a different contractor in there every month fixing the latest problem, and probably the landlord as well.

It goes without saying, find a place with a landlord that lives out of town, preferably out of state. I'd avoid property management companies too, as they often have their own landscapers, painters, electricians, etc. prowling around at all hours.

 

[indicapimp]

more out of line then telling a new grower to grow hundreds of plants and that they should "go big or go home" ????

....and coming from someone who has almost ZERO reputation???

you would have to be a complete FOOL to listen to that nonsense.


and that 90% are for simple IGNORANCE,,,,

whens the last time youve EVER heard anyone getting busted for being an end turn user,,,smoking in their own house???

anytime someone is busted is usally because they are buying ,, selling,, or smoking in public view

if they did care about casual smoker,, they would raid every single person with a medical cannabis reccomendation,,,every person that comes out of the local grow store,,,and every person coming out of a headshop.

Did you read what we wanted to do???? He wants to sling some herb around Campus, or are you just so convinced with all your REP POINTS and Replies that you just like to hear yourself talk.I am not a Cop so FUCK OFF!!! and I mean it...I am in no mood to be lectured by some anonymous Jack off. Most of your post are just your opinion of Mindless Babel.... You hang your little Med Card outside your own grow but I do not have that luxury and I am certainly not taking any risk of my freedom so i can hang out on boards and tell others I grow my own for personal use and think I am any better for it!

Okay, I am call BS on you One Pound per plant with no Veg time.
Got it! ....great to know, why have I been wasting my time.

Go big or go home is simply stated that if what you are doing is illegal to begin with why even do it if you can make more money working a part time job with no hassle??? It 's not like I want to see this guy's life ruined, it is simply the logistics of trying to pump out some weight, 1oz per plant....you do the Math?
Clones that are not rooted are not considered a plant, so whatever you have in your Flower Room is your plant count. Yes, there will be some overlap when someone's plant count might get a little uncomfortable but he only has 3K in lights so it is manageable.
Two quick runs and pull back and see where you are at, I still stand by that statement. See if it is worth your time. Over the long haul, if it works out then he is going to have to rework his efforts towards his longevity in the BIZ....

this is not a war... this is about budget justification and protecting special intrests in the name of "public safety"

WTF Please remove all of your Positive Rep Point's and return back to your desk job @your Local Narcotics Division.

Hit DAT!!!

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

first off,,, med card dont do SHIT,,,but let you into dispensaries

if i got busted,,, that card wouldnt help anything. the system is ass backwards. theyll tax you on the weed you sell,,,than arrest you for selling it...

you were the one telling him he would get an elbow off each plant IN SOG.

DO YOU EVEN GROW ???? because frankly it sounds like you got NO IDEA what the fuck your talking about.

you telling him to "go big or go home" is straight IGNORANT. if you talk with ANY long time experienced grower,, they will tell you a humble perpetual op is much safer than blowing up an entire place with HIDs for 1-2 cycles....

and clones do count as plants. dont believe in your quasi-dream reality that clones dont count as plants. have you ever been raided,,, given a list of items confiscated? i know you have not because otherwise you would know what the fuck is up...

as to my rep,,,, it so high because i strive to help people in this community THOUGH REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES

too many fucking high school shit heads coming in here trying to give advice on shit they have never attempted much less have experience with..... its a fucking joke.



^^^^^^
thats why i give advice,,,,that why my reputation so solid

 

[cosmoline]

I think you'll find that starting personal will be much more beneficial than you think.

Just from a security standpoint, a closet is not subject to inspection usually. Landlords have a right to insure the safety and good maintenance of the home, but only in the most general sense. An inspection of the common areas of the home is deemed sufficient.

Most inspections require 24 hours notice, except in case of an emergency. Which is why growing in a rented apt is generally considered a bad thing, but many many folks grow in rented -homes-. In an apt, you can have your shit together perfectly, and some other dumb ass overflows his toilet and people are knocking on your door.

In a house, the landlord issue is much reduced. Just interview the landlords like they're interviewing you. You're looking for the absentee landlord. Maybe he/she will cut you a break on the rent if you agree to cover repairs under $500 yourself. Plus, you'll do your own yard work. What you want is what landlords dream of

Then, if you're running small, like a closet, just live your life well. Be golden. Be the good neighbor, no, the great neighbor. Lawn always in check. Halloween decorations, Christmas lights, whole nine Norman Rockwell yards. Even if it makes you choke.

Have friends over, you don't want to be that weird hermit down the street. But very low key, a cookout is fine, a kegger is not. A couple of friends over to watch the game, not the screaming super bowl bash that lined both sides of the street. Friends got no reason to be in your room, right? Much less your closet.

Control your grow, live your life.

A well managed closet will put out plenty to keep you swimming in smoke, plus quite a bit to feather the nest, if you'd like. I'm putting a 1kw in a closet, and I've gotten, consistently, 2+ zips /per plant, pulling about 4 plants every 30 days.

I suppose that would make a respectable side income, I, of course, wouldn't know

Control your grow, live your life.

Start small, and grow into it, if you'll pardon the pun. Run the closet, and if you can't make that fit your needs, maybe you ramp up. If you've been the great neighbor for a year, and you're grow is in check (and your nerve has held - you'll be surprised ), then flip-flopping that 1k shouldn't be a thing.

If you can't make it with 2kw runnin', you're doin' it wrong. If you don't have the patience to do it this way, then you shouldn't be doing it at all.

Control your grow, live your life.

Really good advice! I like the part about controlling your grow and living your life. I can imagine some of these guys crouched in the corner of their grow rooms in fear everytime a cop drives by their house. I think I will take your advice and use a closet.

2) location of grow. The 2nd bedroom idea sucks IMO. It's going to be small house, there is no way to explain the locked door. Any stoner friends or girlfriend will figure out what's behind the locked door in no time. LANDLORD VISIT will be your worst problem.

There are lots of different rentals in college towns, I strongly suggest you pick one with a dry basement, or better yet, an attic. Attic is by FAR the best. Even your girlfriend, best friend, and landlord have no reason to go into the attic. As somenoe else mentioned there are many utility reasons to go into the basement. Put a lock on the door and tell them you store expensive hobby equipment (Photography, skiing, computers, musical instruments, etc) up there and you've been robbed before.

I would try to find a place with a walk-up attic (stairway). Also: don't rent a POS house that is falling apart. You will have a different contractor in there every month fixing the latest problem, and probably the landlord as well.

It goes without saying, find a place with a landlord that lives out of town, preferably out of state. I'd avoid property management companies too, as they often have their own landscapers, painters, electricians, etc. prowling around at all hours.

That is the kind of advice I am talking about! Been trying to figure out how to keep the landlord visits down. Get a lease directly with the company that owns the house, duh. Looks like muleskinner knows whats up.

1)WOMEN
2)SMELL
3)POWER USAGE/HEAT
4)WOMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5)BIG MOUTH

For some people its funny how much their 5 runs around 1 and 4.

im going to be real with you. this aint about no fucking "ying and yang" shit,,, dont matter how much you contribute to unicef or goodwill,,, karma aint going to work for you and this is surely not a fucking war. i dont know what the fuck most of these people have been smoking,,, but im guessing its been out of brilllo.

Haha dude we are on the same wavelength, karma has nothing to do with whether you get busted or not. Some people stress so much spiritualism in their life they forget the logic behind the way the world works. BTW, working that job for for personal reasons not a karma boost. I smoke my nugget out of flower tubes, you got a problem with that? P.S. I got a picture for to throw up for ya:




Anyway thanks for the other people with good advice I didn't mention ,sorry, thanks, Im trying to type this fast, got shit to do.
Stop bullshitting about cops/drugwar/etc, people that grow weed talk way to much about that, theres a difference between being paranoid and being PROPERLY CAUTIOUS WITH A PLAN. To the people who doubt me because my age: fuck off, im not like a lot of these clowns that post on here. As far as highly illegal, time consuming, lucrative activities that pivot on attention to detail and problem solving skills this is not my first rodeo either. I can grow nugget, run business, keep it cool and live life simple as that.

Where im at now: Going to rent a house directly from a firm that owns real estate and the signed owner doesnt live in my town, fuck management companies (what I use now, thanks muleskinner!). Still probably going to get the 2bedroom house, one bedroom for me, one for a study. Will set up a 2x600w grow in the closet of the study. Gona have a 600w harvest every month, enough for a little cash and smoking bud. Gona stay on the D/L and do my big growing when I graduate and move out of the asshole of america that is the southeast. peace, thanks for all the advice.

 

[NiteTiger]

Don't look for a firm that owns real estate, or a place advertised through a realtor. That = professional, and they're going to be in your face.

You're looking for the guy that is advertising his own place, and dealing with it from out of state, or at least distant. My last landlord was an 85 year old woman who hadn't set foot in her house for 15 years. When I went to give her the new key, she said 'Why would I need a key to your house?"

That's the landlord you're looking for!

The current landlord lives 3500 miles away.

See where this is going?