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Advancing Eco Agriculture, Product Science
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) But a definite improvement for me over last year. And that is what I am looking for, yr after yr improvementGreat advice. Hope BYF backs off with his sales pitches. It's obvious he is full of shit, hence the reason he didn't respond to my PM request.
So the answer to my question that started all this.....Nobody is sticking with AEA? Everybody is moving to BA? If so, shouldn't a new thread be started? Is BA still technically AEA?
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I'm not sure what sales pitch you are referring to?
What i'm telling you is the result of the trial grow.
I can't tell you the specific blend of ingredients. I'm sorry.
What i'm telling you is the result of the trial grow.
I can't tell you the specific blend of ingredients. I'm sorry.
I'm sticking with AEA until BA is proven to be better. AEA is working well for me so I'll ease into BA after some side by side trials with the two...
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I'll say that at 48 days flowers smelled stronger than any full term harvest I've ever grown and more dense as well. Check out my big soil thread. This AEA stuff is no joke, nor is it a gimmick. Doesn't matter if you like their rep or not the pudding is all you'll be talking about once you get a taste.
I'll post some test analysis from 48 days in, shortly. I was surprised at terpene levels as well as potency. Full term is going to be nuts... Also tested + for 0 mold colonies. The lab said this was pretty impressive as less than 5% of all customers test with no mold.
I'll post some test analysis from 48 days in, shortly. I was surprised at terpene levels as well as potency. Full term is going to be nuts... Also tested + for 0 mold colonies. The lab said this was pretty impressive as less than 5% of all customers test with no mold.
Also had a cultivar test + for nearly 2% CBG .
BD,
If you have listened to the audio archives and read the stuff posted in my first post you shouldn't have many questions as to what's going on or why this stuff works. It's all there. Don't expect anyone to just hand you your harvest on a platter. We are all here because we have been studying and experimenting with dialing our programs in for a while. It takes more than just nutrients to do well, you need to understand them and their relationship with what we are doing. Anyone can use these tools and still fail. So before you start crying wolf, you should probably hit the books and +1 your game. Nobody is going to hold your hand while you cross the street.
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If you have listened to the audio archives and read the stuff posted in my first post you shouldn't have many questions as to what's going on or why this stuff works. It's all there. Don't expect anyone to just hand you your harvest on a platter. We are all here because we have been studying and experimenting with dialing our programs in for a while. It takes more than just nutrients to do well, you need to understand them and their relationship with what we are doing. Anyone can use these tools and still fail. So before you start crying wolf, you should probably hit the books and +1 your game. Nobody is going to hold your hand while you cross the street.
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Father Earth - Stoked your having such success, wish we could swap bowls. I have no doubt AEA works, I never said that. My question really is why are people moving to BA, to me it seems like a dumbed down version of the full AEA program. BA also hasn't had much testing. With that said, the boys at AEA know their stuff and I am sure BA is a great product also.
I have watched some of those videos, but I have a nice playlist set up come harvest. Me, my shed, pair of scissors, and my laptop, can't wait.
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I hope I didn't give that impression, however thanks for the reminder.
Double Edit: Milky - That panama is looking amazing! I would love a picture of the whole plant, because it looks to be in very good health. Are you still experiencing the waxy leaves this late in the season?
I have watched some of those videos, but I have a nice playlist set up come harvest. Me, my shed, pair of scissors, and my laptop, can't wait.
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I hope I didn't give that impression, however thanks for the reminder.
Double Edit: Milky - That panama is looking amazing! I would love a picture of the whole plant, because it looks to be in very good health. Are you still experiencing the waxy leaves this late in the season?
So sap pH testing pretty clearly shows I have overdone me base cations. Gary says I am a moreon...at least I hope that is the spelling he had in mind...I guess it is open for debate.
Anyways I have been pondering an easier way to convert qts/acre into what we think about. Here is what I am looking at (feel free to debate). If an acre furrow slice is six inches then an acre is 807 yards of dirt. If a qt is 32 ounces and there are 30 ml per ounce...960 ml per ounce then 1 gt/ acre is 960 ml/807 yards or 1.2 ml per yard.
It don't take much and if you put more on for too long trouble is fixin to start
Edit...so if you look at cost that way...not much at all
Anyways I have been pondering an easier way to convert qts/acre into what we think about. Here is what I am looking at (feel free to debate). If an acre furrow slice is six inches then an acre is 807 yards of dirt. If a qt is 32 ounces and there are 30 ml per ounce...960 ml per ounce then 1 gt/ acre is 960 ml/807 yards or 1.2 ml per yard.
It don't take much and if you put more on for too long trouble is fixin to start
Edit...so if you look at cost that way...not much at all
MilkyJoe - What your saying makes sense, however it is far from what others have discussed here as a per gallon recommendation. I admit I think I applied AEA too weak at first, then too strong per our newest recommendations at 3/4-1 oz per gallon.
My garden is 14 yards of material ATM, and I was mixing up 50 gallons with 40oz of nutes. That makes 2.86 oz or 84.58 ml per yard.
This is why my results have been less than stellar. Thanks for sharing what's working for you, it seems to be a far better approach.
My garden is 14 yards of material ATM, and I was mixing up 50 gallons with 40oz of nutes. That makes 2.86 oz or 84.58 ml per yard.
This is why my results have been less than stellar. Thanks for sharing what's working for you, it seems to be a far better approach.
It's because you pour it on all time. At 1oz per gallon you onlY need to fertilize one time per month if you have enough biology
September Stack !!!
September Stack !!!
September Stack !!!
It's been an amazing season at the Summer Camp. All the kids are getting ready to go home!! Everything was fed on Biological Advantage
Farmers Dream , Bomb Threat Bubba Kush x Heart Attack Kush , This is my dream plant. I found this from three random seeds. So awesome. This plant was grown in first year EWSF Nor Cal Blend soil...
West Coast D.O.G This is my staple strain. Been growing her since 2006 and I don't plan on quitting.
A New arrival at the Summer Camp, Cherry Pie. Great stuff. Love the smell and the output , really easy to grow when she's healthy. Crossed the Chemdog 4 BC3 male I gifted to South Fork Seeds over it as well as Bomb Threat Bubba Kush x Chemdog 4 BC3 to find something that is a little better structured. My only complaint is how the Cherry Pie grows...She gets her frame from the Urkle.
Farmers Dream , Bomb Threat Bubba Kush x Heart Attack Kush , This is my dream plant. I found this from three random seeds. So awesome. This plant was grown in first year EWSF Nor Cal Blend soil...
West Coast D.O.G This is my staple strain. Been growing her since 2006 and I don't plan on quitting.
A New arrival at the Summer Camp, Cherry Pie. Great stuff. Love the smell and the output , really easy to grow when she's healthy. Crossed the Chemdog 4 BC3 male I gifted to South Fork Seeds over it as well as Bomb Threat Bubba Kush x Chemdog 4 BC3 to find something that is a little better structured. My only complaint is how the Cherry Pie grows...She gets her frame from the Urkle.
Wow, so many feelings in this thread... Ive tried actually listening to my plants and looking at the effects. I have found if you want to use this stuff more frequently less is needed than the 1-2oz recommendations, very impressive results just from a few applications of the line up at my secondary garden. Excited to use these products on my main garden. My favorite so far is sea shield, pepzyme and tainio microbes. Obviously you can grow without this stuff, but I think they are great tools overall.
I was applying as a root drench every 7-10 days depending on weather, where did you come up with the once a month? Thanks for the advice.
Those plants are looking killer. Super healthy plants, bud looks top quality. How do you feel about your bud size? The side by side seems like AEA produces higher quality, yet smaller, denser nugs. Not sure if that means more or less weight in the end.
Plus it depends on what is in your soil to begin with. If it is deficient you can go ahile without going over the line...if it is loaded from the get go you run into p roblems quicker. Bottom line imho it is great stuff...but nothing is great enough that a grower ain't gotta take personal responsibility.
Think about when you give advise on here. Works great for some while othets wanna say you is the dumbest mother fucker what ever breathed air. The difference...the starting p oint that nobody ever mentions. We all need to take personal responsibility. I can sometimes help but even I can't cure flat stupid
Think about when you give advise on here. Works great for some while othets wanna say you is the dumbest mother fucker what ever breathed air. The difference...the starting p oint that nobody ever mentions. We all need to take personal responsibility. I can sometimes help but even I can't cure flat stupid
I should have used something for scale regarding bud size ..Biggest thickest flowers Ive grown
Came up with once a month for my garden based on tracking plant health in the field.
Came up with once a month for my garden based on tracking plant health in the field.
Lol out here if you have OG or cherry you're winning. The real way to win is blackout
