I mix stock solutions so it's really no different. I don't use all those products all the time. For most of the grow it's just base and calcium nitrate. Calcium sulfate and epsom at transition, MKP for a few weeks in flower. Last dry shit I used was based on masterblend, used base, epsom and calcnit (stock solutions) and organic acids only and had the biggest yield of rock hard buds I've ever had in 18 odd years. But kristalon is significantly cheaper so trying to achieve similar results with that..
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Not here in NZ or I'd most likely be using that...
stinkybudz420
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I have dry amendments too that are hydroponic grade. I just save time using bottles instead. Less smell. Less mess.Less time.
More money.
It's a very easy clean set up using a dropper and liquids. I keep things clean. I have limited space and a dog who matters most.
More money.
It's a very easy clean set up using a dropper and liquids. I keep things clean. I have limited space and a dog who matters most.
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Hiddenjems
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Must be a decent sized light. Led? Hps? How many watts? And how long flowering. I usually only flower 8 weeks but I get about 2grams a watt or more with my 300watt led. But I only run it 70%pwr and that's just during week 4-6. Otherwise it's 50%pwr.
Hiddenjems
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I run 1000w hps. I run 8 week cycles too.
However I just pulled 24 zips off a 600w hps over a 2x4 flood table with 6 gelato 33 clones in it sitting in 6x6 pots of Hydroton.
I’m always running test setups in my flower room corner.
I run zero of the high yield strains with the leafy buds, trimming sucks.
stinkybudz420
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Sounds very comparable ...flower per square foot per watt. I did a 2.3x2.3 and got 11oz in just over 7 weeks. I'm sure I could have gotten more but I water by hand and I was only using a 2 gallon pot
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I possibly could, but shipping would be the killer, at which point I might as well be using bottles. I admit it's slightly easier as you don't have to mix the stock solutions with bottles, but I just made a 20L base stock the other day so I can just take from that. Got a calcium nitrate stock as well and there's my a and b
. So the only real difference other than NPK ratios is having to mix salts 100g/L for the stocks. Once those are done it's just like anything elseWish I could get jacks but the best I could do would be mixing salts myself to achieve similar ratios, which over time I'll probably do once I build up a larger collection of ingredients. Would prefer K to be lower in my mix like jacks as I'm adding it with organic acids and potassium carbonate too, but if I lower the dosage the P gets a little low. Can sort of fix that with MKP, or at the moment I'm 50/50 Yara kristalon and masterblend copy, to increase P and Fe..
Learning a lot doing all this anyway which is invaluable...
Just had a look at price and jacks converts to $156NZD for 25lbs before shipping, whereas kristalon is $119 for 25kg. So less than half the price I don't even think it gets any cheaper to be honest 
I did try to find someone to ship me jacks a couple years back but couldn't find anyone that would. This Yara shit is one of only a couple options for bulk and cheap, and the next cheapest I've found over here is around twice the price...
I did try to find someone to ship me jacks a couple years back but couldn't find anyone that would. This Yara shit is one of only a couple options for bulk and cheap, and the next cheapest I've found over here is around twice the price...
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Hiddenjems
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There are some benefits to being in the states. I have a corporate account as well, that’s the discount, free shipping is anyone with prime.Just had a look at price and jacks converts to $156NZD for 25lbs before shipping, whereas kristalon is $119 for 25kg. So less than half the price I don't even think it gets any cheaper to be honest
I did try to find someone to ship me jacks a couple years back but couldn't find anyone that would. This Yara shit is one of only a couple options for bulk and cheap, and the next cheapest I've found over here is around twice the price...
stinkybudz420
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Could compost your own nutrients for free. Maybe get a worm farm going for poop/castings
Im told the kristalon brown needs extra iron , I add 100 g of kristalon to 1 litre of ro water for stock solution and am just trying to work out how much of 11% iron chelate to addJust had a look at price and jacks converts to $156NZD for 25lbs before shipping, whereas kristalon is $119 for 25kg. So less than half the price I don't even think it gets any cheaper to be honest
I did try to find someone to ship me jacks a couple years back but couldn't find anyone that would. This Yara shit is one of only a couple options for bulk and cheap, and the next cheapest I've found over here is around twice the price...
