ACE Seeds 2013

[kamyo]

Dubi,

Am I reading that Congo description correctly? Does that mean that PCK makes up half of the Congo offered now? From what I recall, PCK made up 25% of the previous offering. If that's correct, I have to get me some of that.

 

[kamyo]

Also, thought that this would be a good thread to ask if you were planning any limited release crosses. PCK x anything would be great. Any chance you'll work with Kaiki's Peyote Purple at all? Either way, looking forward to growing out what I have and seeing what's next.

 

[LEX-UK]

Great timing guys I've been browsing the ace offerings latly.

How stable are the fems for indoor lightings?

 

[scai]

Looks like it's time to order soon.....
But, but, but, There must be a mistake! Can't find Vietnam Black Thai at all!
Don't you go, Dubi, losting my favorite! I forbid you!
Have a nice Vietnam Black thai X Black Domina coming, and it looks really wonderfull. Next VBT goes to be crossed with S.A.D

 

[The Hatter]

Dubi,

Am I reading that Congo description correctly? Does that mean that PCK makes up half of the Congo offered now? From what I recall, PCK made up 25% of the previous offering. If that's correct, I have to get me some of that.

I'm curious about this too. It sounds like the new batch must be at least half PCK now.

 

[The Hatter]

Looks like it's time to order soon.....
But, but, but, There must be a mistake! Can't find Vietnam Black Thai at all!
Don't you go, Dubi, losting my favorite! I forbid you!
Have a nice Vietnam Black thai X Black Domina coming, and it looks really wonderfull. Next VBT goes to be crossed with S.A.D

I was just about to order some this weekend! I guess if you snooze you lose. I should have grabbed some last fall, but I feared it might be a bit tough for a newbie grower. It looks like such a beautiful hybrid.

The Malawi X Haze hybrids sound very interesting. I wonder how the flowering time was effected. With a little luck the Malawi dominated the cross in that regard.

 

[Morcheeba*]

glad i got my VietBlack x Thai last fall if they are no longer available and i too was scared to pop pure sativas b/c i grow in 100% coco but the Zamadelicas are loving life and ez to grow so the VB Thai's are going to be germinated soon.....i dont want to be overrun w/ sativas growing indoors.


peace

 

[scai]

Had to go to Attitude for those seeds.... Now I have some Vietnam Black Thai for my future growing.
Mind you, it makes a damn good cross with Blakc Domina...

 

[xinox]

I'm curious about this too. It sounds like the new batch must be at least half PCK now.

If i understand correctly dubi, the process is : ( [S1 x F1] * PCK ) x [S1 x F1].

[S1 x F1] is 25 % PCK, so it's make something like 40% pck in the final hybrid, but i think it's depend more on what pheno have been selected during the breeding process.

 

[The Hatter]

If i understand correctly dubi, the process is : ( [S1 x F1] * PCK ) x [S1 x F1].

[S1 x F1] is 25 % PCK, so it's make something like 40% pck in the final hybrid, but I think it's depend more on what pheno have been selected during the breeding process.

Thanks for clarifying. That makes a bit more sense than what I was thinking. If my math is correct using your formula, it would make the cross 43.75% PCK, but as you mentioned the most important thing is what traits the breeders were selecting for.

I think selective pressures are the reason there are a lot of heavily worked strains that are technically around 75% sativa yet because people keep selecting for shorter and shorter flowering, denser buds, etc. which are all indica traits, you end up with a final plant that is technically mostly sativa yet ends up looking and smoking more like an indica dominant cross.

The opposite can also be true. It just depends on what goal people are breeding towards.

I imagine the African high is one of the things they were looking to preserve while trying to improve the structure, flowering time etc. that come with the Kush side of the cross.

 

[The Hatter]

If i understand correctly dubi, the process is : ( [S1 x F1] * PCK ) x [S1 x F1].

[S1 x F1] is 25 % PCK, so it's make something like 40% pck in the final hybrid, but I think it's depend more on what pheno have been selected during the breeding process.

Thanks for clarifying. That makes a bit more sense than what I was thinking. If my math is correct using your formula, it would make the cross 43.75% PCK, but as you mentioned the most important thing is what traits the breeders were selecting for.

I think selective pressures are the reason there are a lot of heavily worked strains that are technically around 75% sativa yet because people keep selecting for shorter and shorter flowering, denser buds, etc. which are all indica traits, you end up with a final plant that is technically mostly sativa yet ends up looking and smoking more like an indica dominant cross.

The opposite can also be true. It just depends on what goal people are training towards.

I imagine the African high is one of the things they were looking to preserve.

Of course the opposite can be true too depending on what people select for, its just that a lot of people tend to select for indica traits.

 

[dubi]

Our Congo hybrid is a mix of great congolese sativa traits with the enough pakistani kush influence to make the hybrid indoor friendly and fast flowering for colder climates.

 

[dubi]

Looks like it's time to order soon.....
But, but, but, There must be a mistake! Can't find Vietnam Black Thai at all!
Don't you go, Dubi, losting my favorite! I forbid you!
Have a nice Vietnam Black thai X Black Domina coming, and it looks really wonderfull. Next VBT goes to be crossed with S.A.D

Hello scai,

Im glad the Vietnam Black Thai is working well for your homemade crosses please keep us updated!

 

[strass]

Awesome will order some soon.

Just have a question. What is the best sativa strain if you dont want that racy high?
Ive heard Panama is good for this.

 

[dubi]

Awesome will order some soon.

Just have a question. What is the best sativa strain if you dont want that racy high?
Ive heard Panama is good for this.

Welcome strass,

If you want powerful, high yielding, long lasting and resinous sativas without the racy high then Panama, Malawi and Golden Tiger are great choices. Hope it helps.

 

[onefinity]

I'm so pleased with the work ACE is doing for all of us sativa lovers. Can't wait to get my hands on these genes!

 

[Pinnate]

I'm so pleased with the work ACE is doing for all of us sativa lovers.

I'd like to second, third and fourth that!
Love the forum, BTW!
Hi, a grower since '74 in Ireland, I'm back to pure sativa for the first time in years . . .
Bought myself ten Ace OTH a couple of months ago!
Expected 11 seeds ─ got 12 and all germinated . . .
Right now, I'm relying on some badly abused BlueCheese to get me through some of the waiting-time!
And my perception of time is becoming increasinglyyy slooooow!
Christ, I hate waiting more than five minutes for anyfuckingthing!
And with OTH, I'm looking at >24 fucking weeks!
Sooo, I'll be smoking sativa meristem one of these days ─ the strategy being to find that magic girl or two/three and regen.
I hope to get a Michoacán for one thing!
The last time I saw one, a cop was walking out my door with it!
'Ready to harvest, too . . .

'Three males so far and their pollen won't be wasted (like I am a lot of the time)!

Many thanks Dubi and to everyone at ACE.

And to think that a few years ago I seriously wondered if I'd ever have the old equatorial hybrids again . . .

I found the official Ace site just today!

I'll get me an avatar and some pics, anon, natural laziness permitting

 

[tebos]

dubi, are more pure Indica's planned?

 

[Pinnate]

Our Congo hybrid is a mix of great congolese sativa traits with the enough pakistani kush influence to make the hybrid indoor friendly and fast flowering for colder climates.

Hi dubi!
I've become uncompromising in my old age and the Congolese parent landrace would interest me more than a quick hybrid ─ long maturation almost always points to high highs and I've just about had it with Indicas and couchlock!
I'm guessing say, ~26 weeks . . . ?