Ace Malawi concerning mother choice

[ChaosCatalunya]

^ exactly. there are two categorys; personal smoke, commercial strain.

try selling ugly grail puff.

for personal smoke I love ace Malawi hybrids and I really want the frosty mum for breeding.

there are different ace Malawi phenos; some taste a little rude some taste fine/good.

some are fast, some late flowering.

some have complex narcotic high effects, some more energetic. high effects and potency can change dramatically over the cure time.

So, after a cure, how does the hierarchy change, do weaker phenos become killer and the fresh smoked winners fade away to mediocracy ? Does narcotic mature to trippy and trippy to heady but average .?

This is what people are trying to get right, with an eye on early selections

 

[idiit]

can't vouch for all or even most of the phenos.

the frosty mum ( did not keep cut) goes from potent and narcotic to very potent and extremely dreamy trippy.

my pretty frosty cut that I was hoping but wasn't the frosty killer mum I did take and keep cuts of got more potent and smoked energetic , then body slammed after couple hours after 6 month cure. rude taste did not go away. I like it, have an oz kicked back for personal smoke. rude taste not that bad imo. some hate it. eventually culled the cut. wanting the keeper frosty killer mum.



the harshness of the few rude tasting phenos goes away some but is still there after a cure.

ppl just have to run their pheno take and preserve a cut, cure out the well grown bud for at least 6 months.

the keeper phenos are awesome. dubi did part of the job and the rest is up to the individual.

it's a lot of work. most growers just let someone do all the work from seed stock and then get a cut. they don't do any selection, breeding for the keeper cuts. they get the elite cuts after selecting for bag appeal and smoko effects and then "dial 'em in".

 

[Imsostonedagain]

Very good info idiit. Even for conniseur smoke, rude taste is not preferred. However, if it's the most potent lady I find by a whole lot, it will still likely become my malawi mom.
I don't think the answer that I and Chaos are looking for has been addressed. If for instance I have 5 ladies and I rank them 1-5 with 1 being the most potent and 5 being the least of the 5 ladies as soon as they are dry enough to smoke. I realize that all will probably improve to some degree with a good long cure. Is it possible that #5 could be better after the long cure than #1? Or will they still be in the same order just a little stronger? If they all improve an equal rate, it would be easy to just choose the strongest when dry.

 

[idiit]

^ I don't knpw if any one but part of dubi's team could honestly answer that one from experience. I know I can't.


the early Malawi I ran that finished in late august was so long ago I can't remember. it was potent. no one complained about the taste. it never got grail.

the pretty frosty pheno was strong and became stronger, but not dreamy trippy and not spiderman potent.

the frosty mum that I think I held but did not keep cuts of was very frosty, very potent and got even more potent and dreamy trippy.

I would go for the very frosty pheno. it's not super wide leaved or anything. it's super frosty. dubi says go for the super frosty female for the killer mum when I asked him. that's how you know you got her. then take cuts after reveg or before flowering and cure out the smoko and report back for the rest of us.

I didn't recall the super frosty mum getting any strong complaints re taste like the pretty frosty cut did.

 

[need4weed]

Idiit never a truer word spoken, i remember the amazing highs we used to have from outdoor grown landraces, then the indoor revolution took off in the late 80's and it has always been a case of bag appeal followed by smell......never mind about the effects

I am holding on to real gem landraces like PNG gold but no one is interested

^^ until you know a landrace strain strain it's hazardous to cop an attitude based on uncured bud.

I ran cbg's Ghana and gave it a mediocre rating. after 5 months cure it was good smoke, after 7 month very good:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=257703&page=8

it's not my strong discipline that allows me to cure landrace sativas for extended duration; it's the lack of demand from customers.

the bag appeal strains get gone first.

extremely good landrace sativas go last and for cheap$.

kaiki recently got back from Bogota Colombia visiting red rider. kaiki got a real taste of "demand drives supply" re the crippy sativa/indica hybrids. it's hard to source anything but crippy weed down there because there is very little demand for anything but the chunky, colorful crippy and the very much in demand indoor grown adam strains.

growers can't afford to take the risks for the meager prices and poor demand for traditional landrace sativas.

redrider is trying to change that but he needs to survive and the customer is always right, even when they are wrong.

 

[Imsostonedagain]

Need4weed, I'm interested. PNG sounds fantastic from what I have read. Just have to find people that are interested in good stuff and save the shiny chunky indies for the "tourists".

 

[idiit]

am holding on to real gem landraces like PNG gold but no one is interested

everyone following the landrace threads is interested in png. we're just being polite.

 

[Siever]

Need4weed,

Same goes here, PNG is a strains which goes through my mind all the time for a long time now.

 

[ahortator]

I am holding on to real gem landraces like PNG gold but no one is interested

I am very interested in the Niuguini Gold

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=230412

Greetings.

 

[Imsostonedagain]

Got another question for those who have grown the ace malawi. Damn I wish I lived somewhere I felt safe posting pics. Anyway, I popped only 5 malawi due to space and number restrictions. The other 5 are up next. Found 2 ladies in the first batch. They are distinctly different phenos. 1 has a very open structure with very thin leaves. Pretty long internode spacing. At 8 weeks it smells woody maybe.
The other has much wider upright leaves with short internode spacing and very little branching. It seems to be a tad more frosty too. It has a terrific smell when rubbed. Smells almost exactly like concord grape jelly. Has anyone run into grape smells in malawi? If so, how was the taste, high, duration, etc?

Need4weed, you have everyone's interest peaked. Would love to see the PNG.

 

[Holeshot]

Got another question for those who have grown the ace malawi. Damn I wish I lived somewhere I felt safe posting pics. Anyway, I popped only 5 malawi due to space and number restrictions. The other 5 are up next. Found 2 ladies in the first batch. They are distinctly different phenos. 1 has a very open structure with very thin leaves. Pretty long internode spacing. At 8 weeks it smells woody maybe.
The other has much wider upright leaves with short internode spacing and very little branching. It seems to be a tad more frosty too. It has a terrific smell when rubbed. Smells almost exactly like concord grape jelly. Has anyone run into grape smells in malawi? If so, how was the taste, high, duration, etc?

Need4weed, you have everyone's interest peaked. Would love to see the PNG.

Maybe has some purple Malawi genes in it. Not sure if it has any grape phenos.My pheno has very tight buds , packed tight to the stems. Very little branching. She smells of old motor oil , with just a touch of sweetness coming through. .....!!!! PNG I know a few people that work in that region. Very scary place at times.!!! Have heard the weed is good. Had some killer red hair sativa in Fiji a while back. 2 small pipes and I was Blazed.Smelled of strawberries.We had a few issues there so, I wasn't to keen to carry back seeds.