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OZZ_

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If she is dropping pollen and some have preflowers, already at the end you will have some Zamantelika crosses .

Wait, your saying the male dropping pollen can already pollinate the female plants even though I havenā€™t flipped the females to flowering yet? I better yank that male today then, Iā€™m not looking for seeds on this run.
 

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Due to the two Zamaldelica plants being male I dropped a few more beans of ACE gear to fill the void. One Zamaldelica FEM seed (not from the breeders pack but purchased last year 2020), a Tikal FEM, and a Honduras regular ā€œMexican phenoā€ from the breeders pack.

Also I yanked the Zam male that was dropping pollen as I donā€™t want any premature pollination occurring. Iā€™m leaving the other male to see how he reacts ā€¦. if he stays solid and does not drop pollen then Iā€™ll leave him be for now.
 

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Oh this looks like a fun thread! Subbed :)

The Mexican pheno of the Honduras sounds nice. I bet you will find some of the invigorating smoke your looking for in there.
 

OZZ_

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Oh this looks like a fun thread! Subbed :)

The Mexican pheno of the Honduras sounds nice. I bet you will find some of the invigorating smoke your looking for in there.

Hey Mallard! Welcome aboard my brother. They are all still just baby veglings but before long I should have some action. Going to do things the right way from here on out now that I have the space, the equipment and time. Let the seed plants become sexually mature, back everything up with clones, etc etc. As such it may be a minute before things start rocking but Iā€™m hoping to do these genetics proud and find some keeper gems in the process! Pretty easy with ACE gear :dance013:
 

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I hear you, I started my thread months ago now and I still haven't switched to flower yet. That's what I was planning to do with the Zacatecas Tribute and Congo fem I have going now. My first round of clones got mold so I threw them out and this round are looking dicey. I ended up giving 2 Zacateca females and the Congo mom to friend to flower out as I was overgrowing my space. Im getting antsy and starting to think I should just flip the 1 female Zacateca, the congo fem and 2 males and let them go and say screw the clones. Decisions, decisions.
 

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Due to the two Zamaldelica plants being male I dropped a few more beans of ACE gear to fill the void. One Zamaldelica FEM seed (not from the breeders pack but purchased last year 2020), a Tikal FEM, and a Honduras regular ā€œMexican phenoā€ from the breeders pack.

Also I yanked the Zam male that was dropping pollen as I donā€™t want any premature pollination occurring. Iā€™m leaving the other male to see how he reacts ā€¦. if he stays solid and does not drop pollen then Iā€™ll leave him be for now.

Party on deck,turned into an orgy
Explain why you want to admire a 'solid male',Calligula?
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OZZ_

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Party on deck,turned into an orgy
Explain why you want to admire a 'solid male',Calligula?
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Hi Red, hope your doing well. Mainly because I only have one room. Two flowering tents and one tent for moms/dads/clones. I canā€™t have a male dropping pollen non-stop while my flowering tents are running.

Maybe Iā€™m misunderstanding something but, I was under the impression males wonā€™t drop pollen until the photo period is reduced to flowering 12/12 or 11/13?

Is this not correct?
 

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@OZZ last summer I had 2 Zamaldelicas in the same pot, one showed sex (male) and dropped pollen when the second one barely had preflowers. I took the male out the other day and in the end I had 20-25 ripe seeds.
I hope this helps you decide.
 

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@OZZ last summer I had 2 Zamaldelicas in the same pot, one showed sex (male) and dropped pollen when the second one barely had preflowers. I took the male out the other day and in the end I had 20-25 ripe seeds.
I hope this helps you decide.

Thanks for the info, sounds like Iā€™ll have to rethink my strategy on keeping males around. Maybe storing pollen is the better option. :biggrin:
 

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I pulled both both males as for this round Im not looking to produce seeds. Hopefully I wonā€™t have issues with seeded bud.

To avoid that, maybe I will just wait until all these plants show sex, then take two clones of each. Then Iā€™ll flower out the clone, and keep the second for backup in case I decide to keep one or more as mothers. Then toss the original seed plants. I would think that would avoid any issues with early pollinationā€¦ but maybe im wrong on this.
 

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Propagation station nearing completion! 4ā€™ x 2ā€™ x 6.5ā€™ multilevel tent will work well for my needs and my space. :groupwave:

The bottom will be my mother area with 30ā€ of vertical space. I figure I can fit 12 moms in there (if necessary - probably ten is better) in one gallon pots and prune them as needed. I havenā€™t figured out lighting just yet for that bottom area though. Iā€™ve been looking for something low powered as I donā€™t want them to grow rapidly. Would rather have them on low light and try to keep them in stasis as much as possible. Finding that balance of low but adequate light to keep them healthy is a chore. Ideally I was hoping to find two 4ā€™ LED strips to run lengthwise underneath that first shelf, but hereā€™s the kicker, Iā€™d like them to be only about 20w each for 40w total in the mum area. This tent is being vented directly into my room and ambient temps are already an issue right now during the summer so also for heat reasons I want to keep the overall wattage down. I have a spare spider farmer SF1000 that I dialed all the way down, lowest it will go is 35w. I suppose I could buy another and do the same but I think finding some 4ā€™ LED strips would be a better option. Still brainstorming on this
 

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The next three areas are all smaller with only 14ā€ of verticle height. Works great for cloning everything as I go along though. Plenty of space. Those are .6 gallon pots right there. 21 of them fit on the shelf. I had some generic under the counter LED strips that I had laying around. If I remember correctly they are only 300 lumens per strip, I put 5 on each shelf, so only about 1500 lumens spread across each 4ā€™x2ā€™ shelf. Iā€™m not sure if this will be enough to prevent spindly growth, from seed for example but Iā€™m going to throw a few unimportant freebie beans down to test it and see what kind of growth I get.

That very top area with the fan and scrubber Iā€™ll probably use for popping seeds. I havenā€™t gotten any light put up there yet either. Probably just use something very low power alsoā€¦. Maybe just more of those under counter strips as I can simply daisy chain them together.
 

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Everything is starting to show sex. Since both Zamaldelica a were male I yanked them and planted some more beans in their place. A Zamaldelica FEM ā€¦ which wasnā€™t from the breeders pack but was from 2020, a Tikal Fem, a Honduras reg Mexican pheno from the breeders pack, And a purple Malawi haze reg for more ACE gear. Also, I threw down a few old school white widow I received in a trade in one of my old grow tents, mainly just to test viability and see if the lighting is sufficient to grow seedlings without getting spindly growth.

I took clones of everything that was ready this morning, only things that have not had clones take are the panamĆ”s and the THHx90ā€™s ohz only because they arenā€™t ready yet and thereā€™s no real side branching to cut as of yet.
 

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Everything is starting to show sex. Since both Zamaldelica a were male I yanked them and planted some more beans in their place. A Zamaldelica FEM ā€¦ which wasnā€™t from the breeders pack but was from 2020, a Tikal Fem, a Honduras reg Mexican pheno from the breeders pack, And a purple Malawi haze reg for more ACE gear. Also, I threw down a few old school white widow I received in a trade in one of my old grow tents, mainly just to test viability and see if the lighting is sufficient to grow seedlings without getting spindly growth.

I took clones of everything that was ready this morning, only things that have not had clones take are the panamĆ”s and the THHx90ā€™s ohz only because they arenā€™t ready yet and thereā€™s no real side branching to cut as of yet.

Was the rooting system of the male that dropped pollen,rootbound?
 

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Was the rooting system of the male that dropped pollen,rootbound?

Maybe a little, you can see the make in the upper left corner here. He was maybe only 6-8ā€ tall and those are 1.5 gallon containers so while there may have been a few roots hitting the bottom and sides of the pot it certainly wasnā€™t extremely root boundā€¦. I wouldnā€™t think.
 

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All nine Panama Fems got a small up pot a few moments ago to .5 gallon pots with freshly amended soil, as a few of them were running out of food.

They will stay here until they start shooting side branches and I can get them cloned and backed up. Positions have changed, bottom row is the three ā€œlemony/Incensyā€ line, middle row the three ā€œpink/redā€ line, and top row is the three ā€œGreen lineā€. :rtfo:
 

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The Golden Tiger (left) still not showing sex, and the Fem Panama x Oaxacan (right) doing well.
 

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. ā€¦ And the purple Malawi haze, Zamaldelica FEM and Tikal FEM all have broken ground :dance013:
 

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. ā€¦ And the purple Malawi haze, Zamaldelica FEM and Tikal FEM all have broken ground :dance013:
If you have filled your larger pots to the full with soil,they wouldn't have sexed so soon
You are rushing repots,and,maybe the soil needs to be slightly 'lighter' for your leds
Their need is not food,space to grow their roots,is what they need
A cup to sprout a seedling,accompanied by frequent re pots,a stretch/topping/veg routine,so a led canopy is created,
 
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