Acapulco Gold

[Thule]

Too bad about the intersex traits. For what it's worth, when I've used a male that then went on to grow pistils I've let the seeds mature and even grew them. I never saw another intersex plant in the offspring. Intersex females might be a problem but all I got from a hermie male was normal plants. I tried it twice and I'm no longer afraid of intersex males.

 

[Sativamane]

I am growing an AG fem from Barney right now. It is about 4 weeks after flip, running at 11/13 light cycle. Barney's version is not pure by any means, and it supposedly crossed with Nepalese. Looks really good though, wide dark green leafs.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Fuck sakes, I just wasted 2 months of growing time and a dream of creating Mexican hybrids is lost.

The 1st Bodhi Acapaulco Gold male was quickly destroyed because it was hermie or intersex.

Now my 2nd male turned out the same and it has pollinated has the 18+ females. So not wanting
to deal with chicks with dicks or hermie/intersex seeds that I was supposed to be selling in a new
Mexican hybrid using a bunch of pure Oaxacan female. I just killed all the 24 plants and some
were 5 feet tall. I'm not the 1st who got hermie males I think. For all I know the seeds were
from feminized plants or something messed up.

For a seed breeder who needs to make money to survive and I spent so much money (over $2000) on this grow it hurts real bad.

I've grown many pure Landrace Sativas and never got hermie plants before so it's not my technique in case somebody says so.

The same thing happened with my Colombian Gold 1972 run. But, I kept them and made a seed reproduction anyway. For all I know, this could just be a new world trait. One day I will run the CG seeds and see if I get non-hermie females or not. I wouldn't mind if a found females that lightly seed themselves either...

 

[troutman]

The same thing happened with my Colombian Gold 1972 run. But, I kept them and made a seed reproduction anyway. For all I know, this could just be a new world trait. One day I will run the CG seeds and see if I get non-hermie females or not. I wouldn't mind if a found females that lightly seed themselves either...

I never saw hermies in CG 1972.

Note: I don't use more than 14 hours to vegetate pure Sativas.

 

[Ratbastrd]

I have read some sativas get more powerful in the last few weeks of the flowering time. Also they turn yellowish or brownish. I have harvested sometimes when the plant died herself. Supposedly when the peak of potency was long ago passed away, according most books. However the stuff was good.

New member here, fascinating thread, thought I would chime in. I grew up in San Diego during the 70's-80's. At the time So Cal was inundated with Mexican weed of varying quality, colors and (types!). The differences were pronounced and we categorized it along similar lines as the poster above mentions. The lowest quality "dirt" weed as we called it, was brown or a dark amber color and full of seeds (50/50). It tasted like shit or dirt, thus the name. It didn't provide much of a high, but put you to sleep leaving a nasty chemical like hangover.

As we learned to grow our own, we associated dirt weed with being commercially grown, likely chemically sprayed, and poorly grown/harvested very late. You could tell from the color of the seeds that it was harvested very late, and or dried in the sun to the point of almost decomposing.

Occasionally we would get gold or red weed from Mexico or Central America that was much higher quality, fewer seeds and had very distinct flavors/highs. These were the buds we coveted. We were told that most of this stuff came in from smaller, family growers, in the highlands vs the low lands along the coast. The thing I remember about these buds were the smells and tastes, along with the quality of the highs. Clearly there was a difference, and I would attribute much of it to the quality of the farming technics vs the strains themselves.

Lastly, we rarely but periodically saw green buds out of Baja. I know first hand that most of this was grown in No Baja, by a handful of families living in the mountain ranges that front the coast line. There are some really beautiful mountain areas in No Baja, that are similar to the coastal range of No Cal, with similar temps (not as wet, but cold nights/mornings). Some of this weed reminded me of the early skunk weed from No Cal. Piney/lemony with denser buds etc.

 

[Thcvhunter]

I made a cross of Trainwreck x Brasilian Landrace.

Once harvested, she seemed to die to an odd yellow/brown that made me think maybe she molded but no - its just how the S. American / African sativa matures.
Unparalleled effervescence

Ive also found this with Snowhigh's work with Mewiths Magic (Acapulco Gold x C99)

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Bumping this thread for anyone who’s run the MOB Acapulco Gold.

 

[flylowgethigh]

I have some Barney's Farm AG curing now. It is pretty good dope, considering who grew it.

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...4-two-tents-of-sativa?p=18078576#post18078576

 

[yesum]

Bumping this thread for anyone who’s run the MOB Acapulco Gold.

I had to look up MOB. I ran a few of this strain. They were uniform and very much like the Snow AG or Bodhi. Bodhi is less frosty. This is not real AG or any of the others. It is a old line and very sativa, I think that. Not gonna trip out on this. Real AG was trip weed.

What I grew was a cross of the AG x something, I do not remember. It was completely AG dominate though. Skinny leaves and fluffy buds. They did not sell pure 'AG' at the time I got the seeds. Maya was the name they used.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

I had to look up MOB. I ran a few of this strain. They were uniform and very much like the Snow AG or Bodhi. Bodhi is less frosty. This is not real AG or any of the others. It is a old line and very sativa, I think that. Not gonna trip out on this. Real AG was trip weed.

What I grew was a cross of the AG x something, I do not remember. It was completely AG dominate though. Skinny leaves and fluffy buds. They did not sell pure 'AG' at the time I got the seeds. Maya was the name they used.

Thanks for that. I think now it is the AG x Maya possibly back crossed to the AG. Looks interesting, but I’ve tempered any expectations.

 

[TexasTea]

Glad I still have seeds left of these. My plants were not very good, but still might be worth a try again as they do appear to be the real deal.

 

[pheed]

I’m resurrecting this Acapulco Gold thread because I see there is already some discussion here of intersex traits. I’m growing out nine Acapulco Gold seeds to make more seeds. These came from Sensible Seeds (now sold out) and were descended from the Mass Medical / Bodhi seed release (also sold out). As has been mentioned in other grow reports, the Mass Medical seeds frequently produce intersex traits and right now I’m seeing pistils on all of the males.

Does anyone know if authentic Acapulco Gold from back in the day had a tendency to do this? Wondering if I should continue this seed run or not. So far the females are not producing hermies.

Also wondering if I triggered it somehow. I vegged in 18/6 and then moved them outside to start flowering. For the first few weeks they produced male flowers normally and then they just flipped to female.

I’d love to get ahold of better Acapulco Gold genetics if they’re out there. I don’t want the Dutch varieties, but the real long flowering pure sativa.

 

[yesum]

I have run all the so called Acapulco Gold strains that are available, not including Barney's as that is clearly a hybrid. Bodhi, Snowhigh, Mountain Organics Maya. They were all very similar with Snow's being more potent and frosty.

The best by far is the AG from Northcoast. I actually got a trip pheno out of 3 plants. I could not clone it as it was just a single bud at the top of stem with no side branching. This may be a Oaxacan Gold as it is so close in shape of the plant to Oaxacan I have grown before.

Whatever the case, this is the one that produced a ego death type high for me. Nothing has done that for 50 years. Likely the stuff I had 50 years back was indeed AG as it had no green to it and did not taste like incense, which was the Colombian Gold taste. Michoacan Brown might have been what I had too.

But this was a high I have been chasing off and on for decades and almost gave up on it. Ego death is not for the faint hearted btw. Not a casual high, more for learning about things spiritually.

The other very good AG is from Hippie Genetics. It is crossed with the Northcoast AG. I mean Hippie crossed it to the other AG for some reason. I have to grow more of the Hippie AG to comment but it was great smoke. Might be a trip pheno in there too. The genetics of it were crap. Hardly got the plants to grow. His Colombian Gold was even worse. I have one runt CG and trying to make it grow normal but..... Some small Panama Red plants with an ok high, also from Hippie.

This is a pic of the Northcoast AG I smoked. The plants produced almost nothing in small pots of dirt. I am currently growing the AG in bigger pots and using more nutes to see if I can get some yield. Also fimmed or topped them to see if I can get some side branching for clones.

 

[Legalcdn]

@yesum

Thanks for taking the time to write about all the AG. Were the seeds mainly regs?

How long did the northcoast take in flower? Any herm tendancy?

Northcoast seems to be vague on their descriptions. I like durban also but they have little write up.

 

[yesum]

All the seeds were regular. I recall some hermie activity with the Northcoast AG.

 

[Wuachuma]

Regarding MM's AG seedlings throwing out consistent herms,
Maybe it's those special metal halide lights he makes and uses
Lol

 

[Whip]

Get a hold of Liquids AG. It's from 73 stock

 

[yesum]

Get a hold of Liquids AG. It's from 73 stock

Liquid AG is what Bodhi, Snow(more potent) and Maya are from. Also some AG out of Massachusetts. I really did not care for any of it too much. It was just ok with the Snow AG being stronger.

 

[pheed]

Thanks yesum for the info! Unfortunately neither of the ones you recommend are available anymore. I’m definitely looking for that ego death Acapulco Gold though. If anyone can help me out, I’m a breeder with lots of genetics.

For the time being, I think I will continue this seed run since I’m not seeing hermies on the females. It sounds like intersex traits are common with AG even from other genetic lines, as you mentioned Northcoast also showing hermies.

I think I may have triggered the males to pistils when I moved them from the 18/6 veg tent to outdoors. Perhaps it would be better to veg them at 14/10?

 

[yesum]

^^ Northcoast AG is in stock I just checked. Hippie stuff is out it seems. He does not respond to my emails btw. I wanted replacements for the Colombian that failed to grow, if not the Acapulco Gold which were very stunted.

I did manage to make seeds by using pollen from the Panama Red males and dusting the Acapulco Gold females. These plants were midgets beyond belief. Lots of the sprouts failed to even grow at all. The Colombian was a total bust.