? about bagseed

[tropical_high]

O.K., i was just trying to figure out.....why does bagseed supposedly go hermie more often than seed bought from a distributor? It just doesn't make sense to me as they're both pollenated the same way, just one's pollenated on purpose, and the other's often not.

There's only 2 possible reasons I can think of that could explain this.
1) its an F2 - but! lots of seed companies sell F2's (ie. C-99 F2 from GN collection) or,
2) because most of the people who grow bagseed are newbies who have limited knowledge on growing this plant.

any feedback would be appreciated! thanx,

TH

 

[Guest]

I with number 2

Plus, bagseed is rarely sexed and is just openly fertilized/pollinated in the fields so it's a grabbag of genetics and sexes alot of the times

Tex

 

[HOT CARGO]

hmm...

well i have grown bag seed many times. only once that i remember that i had some shity one or two plants. the way i look at it is i try to keep the seeds from the best bud. mexican or not its all good to me. if not hemp i like it. you never know what you gonna get back but thats how it goes with bag seed. i still grow it with my bank seeds.
here is a pure bag seed from New England Peace

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[tropical_high]

awesome thanx for the replies u guys, im thinking the bag seed = hermies thing is just a myth, it just doesn't make sense to me. The most likely reason is poor growing conditions for the plants.

TH

 

[Guest]

quite often bag seed is seed that is made by a hermie plant, that's why they go hermie so much.... most folks tend to get rid of their males when they grow, therefore i just assume that any seed i find in a sac of dank is a hermie seed, unless i'm told otherwise by the person who i get it from.

once a hermie always a hermie. hermie parents = hermie children.

bagseed can be saweeet, and it can be the ultimate waste of time... your choice... but personally i will NEVER run bagseed EVER again in my room, because it'll just end up going hermie after i spend 3 or so months working with it.

/me grumbles something about hermie strawberry cough.


bagseed = hermie is definately not a myth.... kind of extreme to say it that way, but myself, i've never grown bagseed without finding at least 1 hermie in the bunch, and more commonly all of them.


THC

 

[Guest]

i suppose though, like TK said, in SOME cases, mostly that of commercial brick import smoke.... plants are open field grown without male removal.... so, that being said, schwag seeds are more likely to be a male + female seed, where as dank indoor grown nuggies tend to have the hermie seeds.


THC

 

[00420]

iv never growen any bag seed's....

but i have watched a friend do it 5 time's.......all 5 where killer smoke and no hermies.......

5 time @ 5 seed's from diff bags.......... must be do to the one growing it....... me all stick to the clone's

oO( even know i have had a clone hermie on me)

 

[Dallas1%]

I agree with everyone here. Most of the time bagseed isn't that great to start off with. I had a friend of mine start a grow of bagseed not to long ago. At the same time I gave him some LSD to try along side of it. The LSD just put the bagseed to same. I wouldn't even waste my time with bagseed unless that's all ya got. If so I have tons of Shunk #1's that I would be more than willing to give ya. Better than bagseed.

Dallas1%er

 

[Guest]

i had a great bagseed strawberry cough plant goin , produced 1 hell of a mother (or so i thought) uber smoke, incredible smell, but i took 5 cuttings and threw them into flower when they were ready, and every last one of them went hermie on me..... grown in the same conditions as the mother.

dunno... imo bagseed is a waste.

and like Dallas1% says, just about everyone on this board probably has loads of skunk #1 seeds laying around.... if anyone wants some non-bag seed to start with for free, just ask around i know there are a number of folks that would be willing to send some out for ya.


THC

 

[BuzzBob]

just about everyone on this board probably has loads of skunk #1 seeds laying around.... if anyone wants some non-bag seed to start with for free, just ask around i know there are a number of folks that would be willing to send some out for ya.

Arrrrggghhhh!!! Now you say that! LOL...

'course, when I started mine some month back, I was brand new on here. And no way in heck was I going to come on here {a total unknown} and ask for seeds!

Moot point! I should be recieving some of Capt Crip's genetics soon, and also have some clones coming in as well... So my li'l ones are probably not long for this world... {But don't tell them just yet. They're a great set of Learning Tools! }

 

[deZerTomB]

growing bagseed right now!!!

growing bagseed right now!!!

I've got some and it looks ok, not as much crystal as commercial genetics, but it is fast and big. It depends on the bagseed. If it is good chronic type stuff, then I will definately grow out the beans if there are any. Schwag beans get dumped.

So if there are seeds in the bagseed then it either has been pollinated or has hermied.

I ended up with 3 bagseed females in my current grow. At least one has some seeds in it, just a few that I can see. That is fine with me, save em for another time or to give away, toss out near a creek somewhere hehe, whatever.

But I will point out that bagseed tends to be fast & big, lots of vigor, finish fast and large yielder, but not as much chrystal.

I call bagseed filler, just filling up space in my growroom. Then after I determine the quality of the grown smoke, then I will either keep or dump.

In fact whenever someone I knows buys some killer weed somewhere I ask if it has seeds cause you never know. It should be similar to the bud it came from.

stay green & safe

deZerTomB.

 

[Guest]

I can attest to the hermie problem i have bagseed
and it seems like yea you grow for a few mos than BAM theres
a hermie among us. it sux bad seems like that with some of the $15.00 seeds as well
or they just dont germ. it sux not to be able to get the higher priced seeds or feminized. yea it sux..


sack

 

[Kenny Lingus]

Isn't schwag in US mostly from landraced genetics? If so, then it's possibly alot of hermies innit as they're more likely to survive in nature. Of course there will be some that is sex-stable. I also think hermi tendencies is possible to breed out, but this is only my assumption.

In my area there's only homegrown or some othewre indoor buds and I've never found a male in these bagseeds. Never found a real hermie either (just very late bloom nanners), so maybe it was pollinated by stress!?! (Only sprouted about 10 though.)

I grow a seedplant from a bud of Yellow Sinsemilla (From some shop in the Dam) Very lush and vigorous, dark green Indica with extremely fast pistil production... (She's only 10 days in bloom now. I'll load her up tomorrow or in the weekend for you to see.) Nice to get some feedback on that Yellow Sinsemilla stuff. (Anyone ever hear of it, or is it just a local clones name?

 

[Freakazoid44]

How about because if a breeder or someone growing for themselves sees a hermie, they'll pull it, kill, it, and certainly won't pass along the seeds or in any other way propagate that genetic predisposition.

Someone growing to smuggle across the border and sell for fast cash isn't going to pull any plants and reduce the weight of their product. They deal with volume, not quality.

One group is selective about that stuff, the other doesn't care.

 

[JLP]

If it's mexi-shwag then it was probably open pollenated and the seeds will be as good as the bud they came from.

If it's domestic nugs then generally the number of seeds in the bud will give you an idea if the seed was the result of hermie or open pollenation.If you only find 1 or 2 seeds in a bud then it could likely have been a stray hermie but if it's well seeded then maybe open pollenation,however most domestic growers are smart enough to cut down the males.


JLP