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Jericho Mile

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Flaund #2

Flaund #2



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Flaund = TFlux X Jaundice

TFlux = Original Flo X Chem DD

Jaundice = Bogbubble X Chem DD

* Same Chem DD males

Longs ways back..in the thread...I went about stating that this expression would represent Flo domination...said something about the looks of her leaves was a dead give away. So true.

I didn't clone Flaund #2 because I knew she would not be what I was seeking. I understood that she would be too much Flo...and like her mother...would not be an aggressive plant...not much on vigor nor yield. I knew though..that...her flowers would be top notch in ways of aroma..the floral berry/rose?..very pleasant..and probably some mellow introspective resin but..

you know? I prefer difficult aggressive serpent vineyards..and this kind of expression is too close to Short's creation. I'm wanting..no that's incorrect..I'm taking the original Flo into a different hole. You will see later. I have some very interesting Flaunds about to be somebodies.

** In the photos: We have Flaund #2 at 50 days flower...started flush yesterday. Bulkier than the Flo mom...not a freak (mutant) like the mom..and not purple like the mom. Still...very much influenced by the mom in flower structure and lack of vigor for stretching. Perhaps this is where the indica (Flodica) genetics played into Flo...because she really is a finely designed indoor sativa feature...Flo I mean...with some short stretcher(s) and under 60 day finish times.

I took this #2 plant out of the flower studio circle...gave her space away..so she will be flushed along with EMT #1 under the MH spectrums. She's squat enough that I can easily move her and she fits under the MH lights. I'm glad to be flowering in the 1.7 gal squares again. With some plants I'm able to go mobile.

I've got a mess of plants...expressions... everywhere. I've got vines...I've got bushes..doing battle amongst each other and against me. I've had to crack down on my gardening and focus. Flying by the seat of my pants...yet again.

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Torn and Frayed. Yeah to that.

Feeling yesterday...today.

but

I feel not like stopping. Either I'm breaking or breaking through...and

I'm feeling like an animal. I can keep going and going.

Freeing myself of limits. I gather that I'll know limits when I'm stopped. But now...I'm far from being stopped. I have way more leash.

My mentality is becoming something else. The devolution into the great struggle. animal struggle
 

Madjag

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budman678

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hey homie, i hope this meet ya well. i have some killer chemdogs going right now and i believe a couple mox mox. i will provide pertinent updates. ;-)

i love this thread. it has high frequency vibrations. everyone gets what they need from this thread and thats teh beauty. i might not actively participate, im having conversations and im thinking about what's being said and the ideas being discussed. you're a strong dude and you passion is comforting to me. couldnt explain it if i tried.

:::keeping coming back:::

in unison like an AA meeting
 

Jericho Mile

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Easy Mox Trilogy #1

Easy Mox Trilogy #1

Shown and spoken of previously...this expression was the fastest vegger...and when flowered...didn't stretch much and grew on wire supported branches..straight up and down



^ This is how she leaned after having her stake and wires removed..realizing her final moments..and taking her bow to her family. I cut her this morning at 60 days. Remember also...that she was flushed out under MH spectrums



^ Flowers are a fruit funk...and hey!!...rare in the stuff I usually work with: dense flowers. She'll be a real simple trim...in fact...I'll wet trim her this afternoon and show some manicure shots.

* Not my thing right here. Didn't clone EMT #1. Not that she is a bad plant to grow..

** #1 is the only EMT expression to represent like this. All her sisters are out of control vines...the kind..I enjoy cultivating. I'm in pretty deep into some serious flowering. The entire flower studio is one mass of vines with a couple bushes thrown in. From outside the circle you can't even see the bulbs. Wire hanging everywhere..supporting flower heads in a wide array of splendor

*** By the looks of it...I could live very happily off doing EMT runs. That is to say....it's a positive thing...these fathers I used (Casey Jones f2, Triesel, and Purple Bastard Haze f2) on the Mox Mox (Easy) mother...make it really challenging and exciting..in the ways of cultivation and the guess work going into figuring out which pops is at work. I'd say that I'm seeing some high strung sativa dominant hybrids going at it. What's not to like?..well besides finish times

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Trained all weekend..running into and under T-cells. We got 3/4" of rain yesterday. I'm slamming up and down hills. Hills Hills Hills...and now have really developed a routine of pre and post run hill repeats on that paved hill in front of my house. Doing it sometimes with 5 pound ankle weights wrapped on my wrists for extra work. Yesterday I did a 1/2 mile of hill repeats before I even started onto the trails. I'm seeing results from repeatedly running this hill backwards. Going in reverse up and down reveals a whole different way of feeling things

* Ran into another big rattlesnake yesterday...right before the cloud burst. Came up on him and freaked him out...heard him above me about a foot off the trail..so gassed it forward with a big kick..and then looked back. The snake was coiled high and ready to hit...making all kinds of noise...not at all backing down. Threw him the peace sign and kept going.

That's the 3rd big rattlesnake I've come across this summer on this trail. This last one was kind of sketchy because he was aggressive and above me. I never like being below a rattlesnake...or anything else for that matter. Had that snake struck...it would have been high on my leg. He was in hot and fast mode..so I consider myself rather fortunate to not have gotten struck at. He had me jumping like a deer

gets the heart rate up...hauled ass for the next couple miles
 

Jericho Mile

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Manicured EMT #1 flowers

Manicured EMT #1 flowers



^ Real simple/fast to trim and actually yielded pretty well. The aroma is the rotten fruit funk sort of thing. I can't think of much else to say about it..other than..."moving on"

* I'm working today...coming off three consecutive days on the trails. Not going to run trails today...but I will probably go out to my little paved hill and do a mile or so of hill repeats just to keep things loose...and furthering along my ambitions to be a better ultra racer.

** A friend of mine...working for the Forest Service had told me that the government gets a pro deal with Altra shoes...meaning...that he can get them at about 1/2 price. Got to love the government...

so anyways...he ordered me a pair of the Olympus 1.5 (retail $130)

...slightly unethical...but then I think...well...I can live with that. At the rate I go through shoes and that all the shoes I go through are made by Altra...doesn't make me feel dishonest.

In reality...I haven't spent the full retail price on shoes in close to a year. I either get a 15-20% discount from a local store...or a 15-20% discount because Altra sponsors some of the races I've participated in. I still have a 15% coupon from the SD 100M race (they gave me 2 coupons)

and now...a government discount. I say "yay"

My house is looking like a used Altra shoe store. I literally have shoes spread inside and outside the house. It would be swell if I could recycle shoes for even more discounts...but alas..there is no such program. I have no shame in taking pictures of piles of Altra shoes and e-mailing the company the pictures and saying "hey...howz about more of a price break on product or a free shirt or something"

Injinji socks as well. I don't pay full price for socks any longer. I've been exclusively running in Injinji socks for over 5 yrs now. They to..are sponsors at some of the races.
 

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lol,i tried that with surly and in spite of owning 4 of their bikes they wouldnt even send me a bloody sticker for free!
 

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* Ran into another big rattlesnake yesterday...right before the cloud burst. Came up on him and freaked him out...heard him above me about a foot off the trail..so gassed it forward with a big kick..and then looked back. The snake was coiled high and ready to hit...making all kinds of noise...not at all backing down. Threw him the peace sign and kept going.

That's the 3rd big rattlesnake I've come across this summer on this trail. This last one was kind of sketchy because he was aggressive and above me. I never like being below a rattlesnake...or anything else for that matter. Had that snake struck...it would have been high on my leg. He was in hot and fast mode..so I consider myself rather fortunate to not have gotten struck at. He had me jumping like a deer

gets the heart rate up...hauled ass for the next couple miles

My rattlesnake record is seeing 8 in 24 hours, two summers ago in August in a very wet Monsoon season. My wife saw 9 in that same period....the extra was at her work (outdoors - she's a land manager on a big parcel of Mesquite bosque), the other were the same 8 that I saw because we were on an overnight trip to a remote guest ranch to spend the night.

It's 70 miles of dirt one way from our house to the ranch....On one section of dirt we came upon 3 rattlers within 5 miles....always stopped and got out the 6 foot stick to lift them off the road.

On a different note, my 110 lb. Rottweiler took a strike from a 3 ft Western Diamondback last Wednesday on or daily early morning hike. I wrote a long letter about the incident to the keeper of a website called Avoidsnakes.com because I quickly started my Google search 15 minutes after the bite when I got home and found his website under alternative snakebite treatment.

I was a bit concerned...you know how everyone on every single frickin snakebite forum says, "Don't play with your dog's life. Go immediately to the Vet." I just know some facts, like 25% of rattler bites are "dry bites" with no envenomation, approximately 50% are somewhere between light to medium, and 25% involve a full venom sac injection.

Luckily the strike hit my dog's joint bones just aboe the paw. Most dogs that aren't rattlesnake aware to avoid them get it in the face and neck, both close to the heart. Rattlesnake venom is hemorrhagic and cause tissue damage from necrosis, destroying cells wildly and causing inflammation.

from Wikipedia:
Facial Bites

Most horses are bitten on the nose when they lower their heads to investigate the snake. This is by far the most dangerous site for a bite as the resulting swelling often closes both nostrils and causes suffocation.

from the National Wildlife Federation:

Until recently, biologists believed that Mojave rattlesnakes were the only rattlesnakes to produce neurotoxic venom, but lately neurotoxic effects have been showing up in snakebites from eastern diamondbacks, southern Pacific rattlers and timber rattlesnakes as well. Dr. Clark thinks that all snakes produce neurotoxins; “Mojaves may just have more,” he says.

With animals capable of evolving immunity to rattlesnake venom, is it possible that the snakes have had to adjust their venoms upward to avoid going hungry? Bush admits he sees more neurotoxic envenomations, but he thinks the increase in serious bites has more to do with greater numbers of people pushing into snake territory than with the snakes getting more toxic. He does not rule out the possibility that snake venom could evolve greater toxicity in response to prey resistance, but, he says, “this is something that has happened over the millennia, not in the last few years.”

Dart, however, thinks venom toxicity could evolve more quickly. “If a snake has to switch from rabbits to squirrels, a chemical messenger originating in the cells may turn on a gene that makes an enzyme in the venom that helps the snake digest squirrels,” he says. “The squirrel, on the other hand, defends itself by turning on a gene, which creates antibodies to the snake’s venom.” Squirrels lucky enough to survive a snakebite are the most likely to turn on the gene. According to Dart, long-term evolution may have created the gene, but a changing environment may activate its function.

Johnson thinks that increasingly severe rattlesnake bites in California may be occurring simply because there are more southern Pacific rattlesnakes now than there were in the recent past. The species’ competitors are the red rattlesnake and the speckled rattlesnake, which rattle when people approach; as a result, “a lot of people will go kill them,” he says. The southern Pacific rattles a lot less and is generally left alone. “The reason rattlesnake venom appears to be getting more toxic is that more people are getting bit by southern Pacific Rattlesnakes, and they are one of the most toxic rattlesnakes in the country. The Southern Pacific rattlesnake may be like the coyote. It’s learned to live with us.”

Now Californians may have to learn to live with it.

A Painful Bite
Rattlesnake venom, injected through hollow fangs, attacks blood cells and also pre-digests tissue around the bite. Even with antivenin treatment, a bite from a rattlesnake is painful, giving a victim the feeling that the wound is being pounded for hours with a red-hot sledgehammer.

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My dog story and the protocol we used, inspired by Jeff Gould's website, Avoidsnakes.com:


Howdy Jeff, 20.July.2015

I am writing from a small town NE of Tucson in southern Arizona. I have two dogs that are off-leash kiddos, they have grown up in the Sonoran desert and have lived in and around it for all of their lives.

First and foremost, thank you so very much for creating and maintaining your website. It has been the deciding factor in our course of treatment and confirmation that we did not have to rush immediately to a vet. Yes, we skipped Steps 2 and 3 and went from Step 1 right to Step 4 while carefully observing our dog’s breathing, the swelling timeline, and his reaction to the entire episode.

20 minutes after the bite, when I hurriedly began my Google search to research alternative ideas for treating a snakebite, I already knew the typical, traditional veterinarian protocol from listening to friends whose dogs had been struck by rattlesnakes, usually in the face because the dog wasn’t snake avoidance trained, and didn’t feel that that was the way to go. I used my own checklist, based upon my rattlesnake knowledge (Laurence Klauber’s famous book), 100-150 personal sightings, previous experiences with dog owners whose dog had been struck by a rattlesnake and began all treatment with Benadryl, my background in alternative medicine and nutritional supplements, reports on various dog forums (that uniformly say to go quickly to a vet), and of course your fantastic web resource.

Later we got in touch with local two ranchers and both of them confirmed that the dogs they owned that had been struck by a rattlesnake were never given anti-venom and survived fine with home treatment.

My oldest dog is a Boxer mix named Dharma. She is 12+ years old, a humane society rescue dog like all of our canine friends have been, and has been with us since she was 3 months old. At 60 lbs. she is an aloof, peaceful, friend-with-everyone type of dog, the kind that wags its tail and barks as she runs up to a strange, sometimes concerning them because of the barking, but then turning sideways and rubbing up against them while whipping their leg with her incessant tail until they realize she’s a peach.

Our younger dog is Raji, a 4+ year-old 115 lb. male Rottweiler who is goofy, protective, and the most vocal dog I have ever known. This guy learned the ropes concerning the desert from Dharma. They both are rattlesnake aware and able to immediately pull away from bushes or trails if they smell one or especially if they hear that rattle. Dharma learned to avoid the sound of the rattle by the time she was 1 year-old and Raji learned it by 2 years-old. Still, I have seen them run within two feet of a stretched out rattler on a trail so even snake-awareness dogs have their limits. If they are excited and moving quick they just will not be as aware.

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Last week on our early morning 6 am hike in the desert , both dogs started to run up a dry wash that we frequently hike and that they know intimately. The dogs were about 50 feet ahead of me and left the wash to enter a little clearing, about 5 feet wide, that they love to investigate. It has plenty of tracks so I believe it’s a well-used animal passage. I was looking elsewhere when I heard the unmistakable sound of a rattle and turned to witness my Rottweiler Raji jump straight up into the air, much like a cat does when it’s surprised, and then continue to crash through the nearby shrubs in order to get back into the wash which was a mere 6 feet away. Dharma, who is almost deaf and relies upon visual commands unless one yells extremely loud, was still standing in the area of the intense rattling, apparently oblivious to the sound.

I moved quickly to close the 30 feet or so between us and yelled “Cholla” at Dharma as loud as I could. The cholla (“choy-uh”) is one of the most dangerous desert cacti because it drops little ball-shaped buds onto the ground around it and are easily picked up by a dog running near the cactus. Once on a dog’s foot, the dog will immediately try to pry it off with its mouth leading to the possibility that the ball of fishhook cactus needles can become lodged in their throat and choke them to death. My wife and I chose that word as our universal warning sound and the dogs understand that when we yell that word they need to immediately leave the area and come back close to us.

After Raji leaped into the wash I called him to me. As he jogged my direction I could see that he was limping. My heart sank because I had hoped that Raji’s earlier jump into the air had been his escape from the immediate rattlesnake danger when in actuality it had been caused by the snake having struck his right foot. I quickly looked at his foot and saw the two fang wounds, marked by tiny drops of blood, right on the joint of his foot where it meets his leg. I walked over to the spot where the rattle was coming from and there was a coiled Western Diamondback, probably about 30” long. He rattled the whole time we were in the area and for who knows how long after we left. Western Diamondbacks are one of the most easily upset rattlesnakes found in the southwest. I have heard them go off 30-50 feet away when hiking or even driving by slowly in a Jeep. They are easily put on the defensive, rattling incessantly, which usually alerts my dogs from a distance and they stay away. Thus my thought concerning how it was that they got so close to the snake in the first place: it must have been a snake stretched out that they didn’t perceive as a snake.

After reading your website and all the vet sites, I called my wife. She was in the field at the time doing a bird survey on the land she manages as a land manager. She agreed that we should keep Raji at home and monitor his condition before going to the vet. The bite had hit his bony joint and not a soft venous spot, an arterial area, or his face or neck. We are a 20 minute drive from our vet and could always choose that route if necessary, remembering your caveat that we can demand that Raji be given only an IV for fluids and Benadryl with no anti-venom or antibiotics. I stayed home from work until my wife Celeste returned from the field and took over the watch. Raji showed very little signs of shock in the initial hour after the bite. At 2 hours I saw him shudder or shake slightly when we made eye contact, however that was the only time. He never whimpered like he did after his dew claws were removed 2 years earlier and he was not huffing or puffing like dogs in the movies that had been snake bitten. We felt that we had made the right choices and began his treatment.

Our protocol, modified from your suggestions, was 25 mg. of Benadryl given after one hour after the bite along with 1 gram (1,000 mg) of buffered vitamin C in a spoonful of meaty dog food, and a Vitamin D capsule from the company I work for. Our Vitamin D formula has 5,000 I.U 0f Vit. D3, 1,000 I.U. of Vitamin A, and 10 mcg of K2 as menoquinone-7, with Vitamin E tocopherols and tocotrienols also included. These were given to Raji every 6-8 hours in a little meat dog food on a spoon that he happily swallowed with no difficulty. For infection prevention, we skipped Step 6 and instead gave Raji 2-3 Olive Leaf extract capsules with every meal starting at day one.

To keep Raji hydrated we used a bicycle-style plastic water bottle to force shots of water into his mouth instead of using a syringe. By slipping the nozzle into his mouth and giving it a big squirt, he was surprised and began swallowing quickly all of the water that he could. He wised up to it a few hours later and we had to give him a dog treat first so that he was chewing and using his mouth already and then suddenly insert the bottle nozzle into his mouth and squirt. Eventually, maybe by the 3rd day, he was drinking plenty of water on his own from his usual dog bowl on the side porch.

Raji was doggedly OK the day after his bite, but the Benadryl knocked him out so that all he wanted to do was sleep and rest near one of us or near Dharma. We fed him where he was resting so that he didn’t have to struggle to stand up. At the end of the 2nd day he stood up and limped/walked a bit, working his own way out the dog door to the porch where he gets fed his meals. His swelling increased that 2nd day from merely his paw to all of his upper leg. It was round like a pipe all the way up to where his leg met his chest, but no swelling went beyond into his torso. By the third day he could put full weight on his swollen foot and actually ran across the back yard, to our dismay, to get next to the wooden fence where a neighbor’s dog was barking. We stopped Benadryl after the 3rd day and Raji began licking his wound on and off throughout the 4th day. On the fourth day, the swelling was almost completely gone on his upper leg with only his paw being really fat. Clear liquid, perhaps lymph, was oozing from the snakebite site so much so that I saw it dripping when he stopped licking the wound!

I realize that your protocol included an initial emergency visit to the vet, however a few forums that I found mentioned people who lived so far out that it would take a day of travel to get to the nearest vet anyway so they chose to do their best at home rather than bounce a dog in the car for 6 hours of backroad driving. We backpack for up to five days with our dogs and have often wondered what we would do if they received a snakebite way out in the wilderness. We carry Benadryl and basic first aid necessities, but vitamins and herbs are not a usual part of our gear. Now they will be.

Blessings to you and your loved ones at Boxertown.

Peace,
Jimbo
 
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Jericho Mile

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Hey Mad...

Glad your dog recovered. I had to help my neighbor a few years ago. Had to help him load up a snake bit giant poodle (male dog..he must be 80 lbs or more) into his truck...watched him take him off to the vet..talked to him later (dog recovered) and found out it cost him and his wife around $ 2,000 for the treatments. I never researched it...but guessed that there were alternative ways of treating snake bit dogs.

Out of the 3 rattlers I've come across this summer....2 were Southern Pacific and this last one was some sort of Red..I'm sure of that...as it was a deep red and tan in color. But yeah...The Southern Pacific are the most common to run into. No shortage of those. It's the really young snakes that are more the concern..as I've found that the young young ones like to coil up in rocks...right on the trail. Being small and quiet..in the path...new to biting.....they are probably more hazardous...but

..when a fully grown and mature snake starts coiling and blasting its sound..I can't but help but move briskly.

* I did 45 minutes of continuous hill repeats this afternoon. Wearing the 5lb wrist weights added to the workload..helping to kick my ass. No trail time. It's amazing how much you can do on a little hill though..how fast you can waste yourself. Like I've said previously...Hill Repeats are becoming a passion



^ Few different ways of looking at Flaund #2.....her which...I'll harvest in the morning on day 58. Has anyone ever grown Flo? Well...if you have not...this is a good example of Flo...or as..how Flo appears in Flaund. Very Flo....in all ways...structure...personality..finish time..floral(ness)..*resin production

IMO you will not find this likeness in the Berry side of the Blues. There's a certain aspect that the Flo genetics present...that the Moonshines and Blueberries just do not. It's almost like a 'presence" thing. This aspect I've also seen in F13 (which is Flo in reality) plants/outcrosses. I prefer the floral side of the Blues. Always have. I've never found what I was looking for in the berries...but in the florals..yes...things attract me.

* I have a total of 4 Flaund plants flowering. I'll show the other 3 later down the path...but for sure...I have found a more aggressive Flo leaning expression (Flaund #1) which is flowering out nicely and whose clone (like the seed plant) vegs fast. A fast vegging Flo dominant expression I don't believe I've come across before...so surprise surprise..

doing the Jaundice, Flaund, and Easy Mox Trilogy run is like a blast from the past..made more so because I've switched back to the small pots...back to a more mobile style in which I now have realized that...I have missed. It's more work...but more fun

Still have months left to go running the seed plants...then I'll run the clones I chose to take. Something like Jaundice #1, #2, #3......Flaund #1, #3, #4.....EMT #2, #4, #5, #6, #7....but yeah....long ways to go messing around in this patch.
 

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My forty pound pit bull was bitten in the neck by a copperhead about fifteen years ago. It was about ten foot from our front door so I got to see it, not the biggest but not a baby either. Tough little dog, it was the only time she wimpered from pain. It was at 8pm on a Sunday and the local vet wouldn't make a trip in to treat her. Said there really wasn't anything to be done about it anyway. She had no apparent after effects, but it seemed like an antibiotic would have been useful.
 

Jericho Mile

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New Shoe Day (once again)

New Shoe Day (once again)



^ Altra's Olympus 1.5 (1.5 indicating that these are the 2nd generation of the Olympus model)....the shoes that my friend ordered for me the other day. He dropped them off to me this morning...and hey wow..the government pro deal cost me less than 1/2 the $130 retail. $60. These are the opposite of minimalist shoes. Maximized padding. I'm openminded see?...I like experimenting with different concepts.

I have two pairs of the 1st generation Olympus...that you'll recall I got for slightly over 1/2 price because the 1.5 model had just come out so the retailers needed to dump the "old" model stock....and I'm still training in them...switching back and forth between the Lone Peak 2.0 and the Olympus. I like them both...

Cool though to get the new model. Next I'll be getting the Altra Lone Peak 2.5 (2.5 indicating the 4th generation of the model) which just came out. I'll have to pay close to full price for those..$120 retail..I'll get them for around a $100...but I want to try out the new model and need them for some races...as my 2.0's are getting beyond shot now. I don't have a decent pair left.

Fucking running shoes. Never ending adjustments and new models...so nice to be involved in a cresting sport..where...there is great influxes of new design and concepts rapidly being unleashed upon the disciples. When I started trail running....it sure wasn't like this....the vastness of product and popularity.

* Running in the Olympus model is like running in moon boots. Once I got used to the high stack height of the foam padding..and learned to time the rebound spring off rocks and roots..I've been able to find comfortable bliss in the shoes. I've never even come close to being rock punctured in them...more like..I float right over terrain. I keep the same exact form as when I run in more minimalist shoes..so no foul there...don't see where they hurt me. I really like the Olympus model..and I've heard nothing but good things about the 1.5 model...so nice..I should be able to make them work for me.



^ New shoes. New buds. Flaund #2 manicured
 

Madjag

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They look orthopedic or something. Very little grippy tread, too. Is that typical for rough trail running shoes?
 

weshjo

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Hi my friend!

Always a pleasure to see you here on board...
Everything seems to work for you...still very good gen in your garden :biggrin:

Best vibes!
 

Jericho Mile

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They look orthopedic or something. Very little grippy tread, too. Is that typical for rough trail running shoes?

The maximized concept didn't originate through Altra shoes. Altra originally (they've only been around for a few yrs) was conceiving minimalist style shoes with the zero drop bottoms....zero drop meaning there is no difference between the height of the back and the front...so your feet sit flat in the shoe...unlike a lot of traditional shoes that stack the backs higher with padding...and then

they followed the maximized trend which Hoka shoes originated. So in the last few yrs...the trend in trail shoes has gone from the minimalist movement and swayed the other way to the maximized movement. And of course...there are the more moderately padded shoes (like my favorite Altra Lone Peaks) that sit somewhere in the middle of no padding and max padding.

But yeah...many many ultra racers have switched to maximized shoes...as all the padding does go easier on your feet.

* I've never worn Hoka shoes...but what Altra shoes did was...take all that padding and keep it on a zero drop platform. The shoes ride high (like elevator platform shoes...30some mm of stack height) and you'd think they'd roll over an ankle...but I've yet to do it. They are actually really stable even on fast downhill turns....and the ride is full suspension. They are heavier than any Hoka model..but not that heavy feeling...I can still be foot nimble in them.

** I'll say this: In the last year..I've seen a lot of ultra runners wearing the Olympus model. At first there was some backlash aimed at Altra because they were known to cater to the minimalist runners (which I was one) and people complained they were following a trend...and perhaps they did...but I do believe they took what Hoka started and designed a better shoe. I don't hear a negative peep now...and I don't know why I would. They still cater to everyone...there's so many different models...I can't keep up.

*** Many hikers like the Olympus and Lone Peak models...it's not just trail runners. The tread on the Olympus works on my dry/decomposed granite terrain...but I've heard it doesn't work well in the muck. The tread on the Lone Peaks is more aggressive and grippy. It all works for me really...nice to train in different shoes....mixing it up. I eat shit no matter what shoe I'm wearing...lol...it doesn't matter. Sometimes I just slip up or hang up
 

Jericho Mile

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Hi my friend!

Always a pleasure to see you here on board...
Everything seems to work for you...still very good gen in your garden :biggrin:

Best vibes!

Hey, weshjo. Been a long time. Remember when we used to hang in H3ad's forum? Those threads were a lot of fun. I might go back and read my old thread...and see what I was thinking and what I was growing.

Still...to this day

I'm working with H3ad's genetics. I'd actually buy some beans if he came back around with something new...but I think he's gone for good. Don't think he's posted in like 3 or 4 yrs that I know of.

Glad to see you surface, man. I'll be here until the ship goes down..or they throw me out. I'm still having fun working my stuff. It's a long game.
 

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Digesting...

Digesting...

...my morning full load of bean tacos and a Reed's extra ginger beer then going out for a heat run. Started breaking in the Altra Olympus 1.5 yesterday. Ran rolling trails to a long rocky wash..went up and down....rolled along for around 10 miles

The shoes are cool...but the foam needs to break in to the ways of my feet...get the personal mold down before they can be trusted. As they are now...foam is stiff and at times the shoes were unstable in the rocks. Had that close-to-ankle-roll thing going on many times up and down hills. It's good that I have strong and flexible ankles.

I'll wear them again today...work on getting them shaped and broken in. They are some funky ass moon boots...fun just wearing them..feels bouncy

* sore and tired today. It's been a long week...Thursday was the only day I didn't train since last Friday. Think I'm going to race a 24 hr timed run at the end of August. It's on a flat 1/2 mile loop (on a ranch)..and you just run in circles wearing a computer chip for 24 hrs and see what your end milage is. I don't know why it appeals to me...but for sure...it would be a whole different mental game. I was thinking it would be a great way of training my form, pace, and stride over a consistent terrain for long hrs. I believe it would benefit my overall game. That puts me in races August, September, October, and November. That's a long stretch with a lot of miles in and in between.



^ Early Mox Trilogy #2 (55 days) on the right #3 (61 days) on the left. These things are fine.



^ Closer look at #3. I called her out as having the Purple Bastard Haze f2 as a pops....but wow...I could just as well suppose that the Casey Jones f2 is the pops. She looks a lot like some Casey expressions...but not unlike some Haze hybrid expressions either. It really doesn't matter does it? It's just for fun speculation. Either way....

..she's a fine girl with a cherry/berry/fruit aroma..blow up flowers on a floppy frame. Nice resin production as well.

* If you look in the background of the picture...you can see some of her sisters..early in flower...stretching above her. I really have some work cut out for me...as all the vines progress.

** I'm deep in Satvia Dominant Hybrid Hunting Grounds. I must say it. I am in a really good patch. This is the stuff I love to grow...more than any thing else. I love seeing all the vines....hollow tubes you can just bend out of your way..after of course..they've been tied into the ceiling rafters. Everything in my flower studio is making me happy.

*** I'm hoping to find some good mother clones..out of this..to keep the Queen Moxie clone company. Like I mentioned a few days ago..I'll run the chosen clones a time or two to really see what they are about.

**** I've killed off every Queen Moxie self....some time ago. Shy-La, Cyclone, and Mazzy have all been culled. None were good enough. Mazzy I never even saw finish flower. After a long slow veg...her 1st 3wks in flower were lame...so I killed her on the spot. Shy-La as well...slow vegger but good final product....and Cyclone just didn't fit the bill..end product wise. I have no Selfs at all.
 

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Hit it again...

Hit it again...

Heat of the day (90's) run..... full sun. The air is back to the normal dry..typical south west winds...getting deep into summer. the insects buzzing and humming....snakes and everything else...in their holes. When it's blindingly bright and hot...and I'm running isolated..alone... on some far out trail or jeep track it becomes a different world. It becomes micro and particular.

Ran a bunch of steep single track...just around 9 miles. Now: Feeling worn...mellow...sipping tea a good bit stoned out...listening to a ceiling fan. Too lazy to bathe

Running my mountains is such a blast. I can't get enough...

day after day gets you tired and sloppy...but I think of it as another way of training for endurance. These 8-12 mile runs this past week..not long runs...but they are filled with hill repeats and none are done on mellow terrain. Hitting the heat and training for consecutive days...things become blurry..can't remember the order of things...or on what day it might have occurred...so like

I'll be running a section of trail...and be.."I was just here....was that yesterday or days before?" and that will boggle my mind for a mile or so...until something else comes up

the days...the trails...the footfalls melt together into a mash of pinto beans and corn tortillas
 

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The New and the Old

The New and the Old



^ and yet...another...new shoe day. Received the Altra Lone Peak 2.5 (left) today....which is the new model replacing the Altra Lone Peak 2.0 (right). Looks to me like Altra made only small changes to the model.....which is just fine with me...as...I had nothing but..love..for the 2.0. I shouldn't have any trouble making the transition.



^ so these are what I'm training in for the remainder of the summer and into the fall races. The Altra Olympus 1.5 and the Altra Lone Peak 2.5. As I've mentioned...I like to switch back and forth between the two models for training runs...but will be racing in the Lone Peaks.

* I'm officially running in the Julian Station Full Moon 12/24 hr timed race next month. I'm kind of fascinated by running in flat 1/2 mile circles for hr after hr...not sure why...must be something in the sure-to-be-mind-fucking-monotony that such an activity surely will present.

Not going to change my training regimen for this timed race...no. I'll keep doing what I'm doing for the next few weeks then go run in circles for a day and a night. I can't think of anything I need to do different....just run run run
 

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Warped Times

Warped Times

Cloud burst yesterday. I couldn't wait..so my timing was off by around 45 minutes. Broke in new shoes in the pre burst mugginess...a beautiful thickness to the air...clouds covering...changing lighting spectrums..dropping (momentarily) the ambience into a cooler world then

clouds would uncover and the sharp rays of the July sun would cut through that world...to create..the oven world of melt downs and hot breathing

The burst...when it came..found me already at home. It dropped an inch and a quarter of rain in under an hour. Good one.


Top Removed EMT #3 day 67



^ Related to that cloud burst story...I'll show how it effects. Because the night temps here...due to 90 degree days and cloud cover the last few days..have been around 70 degrees...I've not run the lights in my flower studio for two nights...leaving everything in the dark

This morning I put my headlamp on and lit with a green spectrum...went in and pulled out EMT #3

* The above picture shows her with her main (she was never topped) removed. Had to cut it off to make it easier to quickly get her out of the dark room. I don't trust that green light good theory 100%. I give the flowering plants limited exposure



^ This is the #3's main. Taken on day 67 for a couple reasons.

1. I sampled her at day 63. Liked her even then.

2. I may or may not get another in this run and I never cloned her...so I'm going to take some time and try to reveg her. She had been flushed for 10-14 days...and I didn't want to stress her out any longer..knowing of my intentions to reveg.

So yeah...harvested on day 67...could have been harvested earlier or...she could have gone longer. I totally misrepresented her earlier as...most likely being fathered by the Purple Bastard Haze f2...because upon finish...I'm more inclined towards the Casey Jones f2 pollens. When I sampled her day 63 flowers..I was brought back to Casey Jones grows. I know I get burned out on the aroma and flavor of Casey Jones buds..but for a time I can get crazy with them. It's a really outstanding smoke/high.....so

having a stand out Casey Jones dominant Easy Mox Trilogy in my collection is really welcomed. I enjoy growing and smoking this expression...so though I've never completed a total reveg of a finished flowering plant...I'll make a go of this one. She's a fine ass expression. Perhaps I find a better one this round? Options.
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More to the picture than meets the eye



^ This is an Estaceno pepper plant (seeds from New Mexico) that has been decimated by Tomato Hornworms. Motherfuckers. In my hothouse I had a major hatching of the worms....and though they are called Tomato Hornworms...they will eat pepper plants just as fast.

* In the last 2 days the wife and I have been going into the hothouse and the tomato patches...every morning and evening..picking off the destructive..worms. It's brutal and time consuming war. These worms..if left unchecked...will destroy an entire crop. We have killed at least 30 in 2 days. If you are familiar with these worms..you'll know...that is a huge #. It's unreal how hard they are hitting our gardens.

Gophers...now Hornworms...the ass kicking has been going on all season. Remember all these plants I started from seed...so we are talking many months of cultivation now...and I'm still having to defend them for their very lives. I've already been fucked out of a cucumber crop (gophers)...dug up to save my pepper crop...and yet...here I am again...fighting for the now potted pepper plants.

Into the Black...out of the Blue
 

waveguide

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neem and they just hang out. poor buggers.

i crave stillness like you crave motion :D things happen.. or not happen.. something thought about..
 
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