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A World On A String

unclefishstick

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i wonder how it went today...50 miles is stout enough a day on a bike,i cant even imagine walking that far in less than 2 days...
 

Jericho Mile

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all good

all good

was not able to sleep at all the night before the race. no sleep would come. ended up arriving at the race trailhead at 4:00 AM (race actually started at 6:30..not 6..for some reason)...so I could get good parking and plenty of time to vacate my bowels. hate being rushed

arriving early was smart. place turned into a small city by 5:30

race itself:

my oil guy couldn't come through...and I didn't feel like I wanted to spend my time going through another party so: I ran this race completely straight...as I didn't want to take the time to stop and smoke bowls during the race...and didn't feel like getting high before.

anyway

started the race with a pace I thought I might be able to run the entire distance. ran with some experienced people..some pacing off heart monitors...others off pace timers..others off their internal clocks. Most everyone wears watches..and most are frequently reading them. My watch only has 5hrs of battery life when the GPS/pace indicator is employed...so I just used clock time and didn't even look at my watch until late in...but again...all I had to do was ask someone...and they'd be able to give me the stats on our progress

the pace I thought I could hold..understand...had nothing to do with me looking at a watch. I just ran at a comfortable...controlled pace...nose breathing for the most part. Turned out that my pace was faster than I thought...because 25 miles in (at the turnaround aid station)...I was starting to get really worked. I was running a sub 9hr finish pace the first 25 miles.

had some really down times 25-30 miles...cramps, stomach uneasy, body starting to get sore and tight...twinges of pulling muscles...trying to become cramps. Had to do some walking even on the flats...run then walk...run then walk. the day was heating up and the distance seemed stupidly long. i got very irritated with myself...at my body weakening...at my pain...at my ego..at about everything. but then..

caught my 2nd wind and ran..in great form...most of miles 35-40. It's pretty wild out there. I ended up catching runners who had..earlier when I was struggling...passed me...and we'd go back and forth...depending on who was feeling good...and who was not. I'd catch them and pass...we'd have a chat or even run together for a couple/few miles..then one of us would have more energy and move out..

miles 40-45 went back to me...being tired and in pain...and not being able to hold off people...I'd passed in the last 5 mile stretch (between aid stations)...or catch anyone ahead of me. had some bleak moments...miles seemed long. Here though...I ran with a dude from Bakersfield who told me that we had a sub 10hr finish...in the bag...if we could hold onto the pace we were keeping. He had it all worked out...another experienced racer. Sub 10...sounded good to me.

most of miles 45-50 I ran with the Bakersfield guy...but he felt better..and pushed on ahead of me with a couple miles left to go. Went back and forth...back and forth..with some other racers...all of us feeling the finish line...all of us...having moments of feeling good then feeling shitty...checking our watches

I finished in a full out sprint (passing 3 people..who had previously passed me) the last 100 yards. My time was better than I had anticipated....but sincerely...I didn't feel like I kicked ass. I felt like between the course and myself...the course got the better of me...but also understood..that I got valuable experience on some tricks to running ultra distance races.

experience is the thing I need most. only way to get it...is to keep racing

* I'm being catered to by my wife. I'm so sore...I can't sleep (got up at 4 this morning)...body is still feeling depleted...so refueling.

I don't feel like running. tell you that
 
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Jericho Mile

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This is a sick video from YouTube of a guy that ran last year and documented the race through with a gopro. Chatting while running and giving updates every few miles.

http://youtu.be/fjfPtWFZglI

I've raced with this dude. he didn't race yesterday. they have not posted results yet...but because the course is an out and back...I saw the leader...and he was about 4 miles ahead of me at the 20some distance. Super human pace. I can't understand how some can run that fast...for so long. It's incredible.
 

Madjag

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Genetics have a lot to do with it.....

Tarahumara runners run all day and night and have been known to cover 150 miles of rough terrain non-stop basically except to piss or shit.

In the early 1900's Hopi runners would run 60 miles from the mesas to Winslow to watch a steam train pass through and then run back in time for dinner.

Think about partying. Some peeps can smoke, drink, and snort their way through decades and still hold down a job and raise a family with kids. I know a few and it's a lifestyle that would kill me or you, but some genetic warriors have the stuff that let's them do it.

On the other hand, they will probably just quit one day in the middle of it all, too.....heart attack with no warning.
 

unclefishstick

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nice! i bet you're feeling pretty ragged right now,you must have burned what like 6-7000 calories yesterday? it normally takes me a day or two to feel like my muscle glycogen levels are back up to par after that kind of effort...been really wishing i had a wood fired hot tub or a sauna lately,probably because its winter,i may feel differently about soaking in hot water in mid summer but this last week a nice soak in a hot tub would have been heaven...well a nice hot springs would have been better,hell,i would settle for a regular tub i actually fit in...
had a pretty good wreck yesterday,but it was to me a good thing since this wreck was caused by my pushing my limits instead of me pussing out...ive mostly gotten over the mental barrier that was saying "you cant do it" and gotten to the point im not going to quit until im on the ground...the physical part is almost easy sometimes in comparison to that part of your brain saying no....free your mind and your ass will follow right?
 

budman678

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Sleeping baby on my lap. Left hand typing on ipad.

Congrats! It sounds like you learned a lot. How did do with fuel? Anything you'd do differently in regards to hydration and fuel?
 

Jericho Mile

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Recovery

Recovery

This morning I stretched out with a shovel handle (loop arms around it to force form and open up stretches...roll it on my legs etc) and ankle weights in my driveway. The pains/stiffnesses are everywhere...but mostly in my hips, quads, and hamstrings. Even my arms are sore...from swinging and stroking out the paces for so long.

Later in the afternoon found me on the yoga mat rolling on massage balls and tennis balls...trying to open up the hips, hit knots in my legs and ass..kneading out my feet. By the way..I taped up my feet more than normal. Not a blister nor a hot spot...besides the hours of pounding..my feet came out less sore than I expected.

overall...I still need more sleep...but I'm happy with how my body is recovering. That's a good indicator that it's transitioning over to going longer distances...being programmed into "this is normality"

* fuels used directly before and during the race:

had a peanut butter/Medjool date burrito in the parking lot with some water. That's all I ate directly before the race. Of course I gorged all the day/night before.

Pro Bars (meal bars) do not work for fueling during the race. I was carrying 4....ate one early on...before my body started depleting itself of water..but later..I tried to eat another and it wouldn't go down my throat. later even...I tried a 3rd..but it was the same as the 2nd and wouldn't go down.

at the aid stations I lived off bananas and electrolyte drinks. I ate one gel somewhere down the line...can't remember at which aid station..but those things are like eating cake frosting..the sugar content must be high...kind of gross.

bananas, salt pills, and electrolyte drinks...that's basically it. I didn't feel under fueled or totally dehydrated....just hurting from all the leg lifting.

** This was about as urban a trail race (mountain foothills) as they have around these parts. It wasn't very much in the elevation gains/losses but the climbs were in strategic places and challenging. Much of it was over dirt access roads (fire/power)... over farm land...over lake recreational trails. There were plenty of mountain bikers, hikers, horses, and runners along the way...most of them seemed to know what was going on...so there was some cheering etc...pretty supportive people.

the thing that made this race a mind fuck is that you could see the course for long distances....so you could see racers in front and in back of you...see how far you needed to go. There was a feeling of being exposed when I was having a tough go...and a feeling of being able to hunt down those down in the toughs..when I was feeling good. seemed like a mind fuck..to me

*** I'm feeling like wanting to do it again already. My next races will be out of the desert...and up mountains..so will be an entirely different can of worms. Seems that each race brings different scenarios...different hardships to overcome..but it really is just foot racing, fueling and trying to maintain composure while dealing with pain

I reflected today: If I could full out sprint the last 100 yrds of the race...then I didn't succeed in shutting down my mind's pain. I had enough gas in the tank...had enough power..had enough legs left..so I should have been kicking out a better pace for longer. My mind's fear of pain won out for more than a few miles. That is something that I can work on. taking the pain is the balance..dealing with it is the key. It's a painful sport...you have to work at it so long sometimes...to get past those pain walls..but then it's like nirvana. That's the rush and the addiction..you can see it in everyone's eyes after the race. The will of individuals to run like maniacs for no apparent good reason and then rejoice over how much was overcome by doing so. funny but not
 
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wooow, Jericho:groupwave:
impressive reading, You are a super human :bow:
I will keep running , i need that xp youre talking about ,and this is brain food and outstanding motivtion , and i thank you 4 that.
I will have u in my mind when i get soft on saturday..Im going to my first ultra run. 50 k trail , but thats nothing :laughing: ...Thx 4 sharring champ,,,awesome running ,

 

Jericho Mile

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Results

Results

168 racers finished

Winning time was slightly under 7 hrs..think it was 6 hrs 58 min. That time was was slower than last yrs winning time...by a couple minutes.

My sub 10 hr finish placed me in the top 1/2 of the field.


Some racers (even a few who had optioned for a 5:30 early start) finished in the dark...over 13 hrs

my point? You can see the degree of differences in the field's abilities.

it goes from super human runners...down the line to...dedicated enthusiast who slug their way through each one of their races..at the back of the pack.

* I'm feeling way better today. Been out picking up dog dung and tending my garlic crop....taking in some winter sun...staying on my feet. I'll start back on the trails in a day or two.

Can't be taking breaks at this time. I'm already plotting the next couple of months..because come April..it's going to get really tough. In training time..that's not far away. I have to train hard the next 1.5 months...then start tapering it down a couple weeks before the 1st of the races. then it will be

RACE recover/train Race recover/train Race....2wk increments

50K then 50M then 50M a little personal trilogy
 
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Jericho Mile

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wooow, Jericho:groupwave:
impressive reading, You are a super human :bow:
I will keep running , i need that xp youre talking about ,and this is brain food and outstanding motivtion , and i thank you 4 that.
I will have u in my mind when i get soft on saturday..Im going to my first ultra run. 50 k trail , but thats nothing :laughing: ...Thx 4 sharring champ,,,awesome running ,

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Great picture. Great shirt.
 
If u like it i can send u a shirt :) I have it in Large..Maybe an americano runner friend has one in a bigger size ..i could ask...but if you can fit a large then i have one 4 u.
 

unclefishstick

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rest is pretty important too,dont neglect that...i decided to take today off after the first quick hour of riding to run errands,plenty of power in the legs but i could tell i didnt eat enough yesterday,my muscle glycogen must be depleted..it was 4/5 days in a row out there,a day off wont kill me...even though its really really nice out right now and its killing me to stay home...
 

Jericho Mile

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Worm Farm and Garlic Crop

Worm Farm and Garlic Crop

ran with the wife. bit over 7 miles in the winter sun. felt good..stretched out some tightness..some knots. went slow..running in tandem...the wife in the back..controlling the pace.

body slipped right back to where it left off post race. not as tired...certainly not as tight and sore..but still..not fully charged or done being weary.

good to get out. earn my sweet potatoes



^ tending to the back bed. Right 1/2 is planted with 4 varieties of garlic...Left 1/2 is composting worm home



^ Lasagna style of compost layering. Started at the end of the summer season..so going a while already...but the bottom layer is summer season compost...2nd layer is sheets of plain brown cardboard...3rd layer has wood ash, coco, chainsaw chips, kitchen compost...4th layer is cardboard...5th layer is wood ash, coco, chainsaw chips, kitchen compost..6th layer is decaying oak leaves..7th layer is a bale of green alfalfa, 8th layer is cardboard. worms are warm, well fed, and active.

* cardboard. it's organic and the worms love it...but some gardeners argue that it has chemicals remaining in it from the pulp making process. All I know is it insulates great, makes great worm food, I have a free supply, prevents weeds, and it disappears like it wasn't there in a matter of months. I've been using cardboard for years now...all looks healthy.

I believe worms love cardboard because they are attracted to the sugars used in the binding of corrugated cardboard. That's where you'll find them..right where the pieces bind together..they have a love fest in there.

** #1 food my worms love: decomposing/black wet leaves. they go crazy for leaves

*** I don't use any manures...no blood meal...no bone meal. I advocate the use of plant matter and I advocate the cultivation of worms beyond all else. If you have composting worms..in a great population..working your garden...you have little to worry about..as far as...the medium being juiced. Feed worms..very simple..o and..a happy medium is a covered medium


**** I leave gaps in between the sheets of cardboard..so I can get water down into the entire pile. Cardboard absorbs a lot of water...but also reflects a lot of water. If you don't leave gaps...you will get dry spots where the cardboard has not allowed water to pass. the piles are kept moist and covered at all times. deep soaked...no sunlight


***** I'll plant over this pile beginning of April. This will have carrots and salad/lettuce rows.




^ Garlic crop..giving their peace sign. Planted October-November. Harvest will be in June.

* part of the area where they are planted was a compost pile that my worms worked last summer.

** I put down sheets of cardboard then cut out holes...in which the garlic pieces were then planted. After planting...I then spread wood ash, coco, and chainsaw oak chips over the cardboard. Not much weeding required..and it appears very organized. If you lift up the cardboard...you'll find lots of worms.


I realized how great The Rolling Stones used to be...again...last evening cranking stuff from the '73 tour (brussels affair bootleg...sydney bootleg etc...not that well documented..that '73 tour)....fuck...I thought that's the best they ever sounded. period.

last tour Mick Taylor was with the band. he plays his ass off...along with hopkins...preston...changed their sound.

never understood why Goats Head Soup ('73) wasn't given its due. It's one of my favorite Stones albums..and I never hear them play that stuff live except in samples from the '73 tour. almost a forgotten album
 
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unclefishstick

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im still on my rush kick,their catalog is pretty big,maybe have 2/3 of the studio albums barring some of the keyboard heavy mid 80's stuff...i dunno what it is,but nothing suits mountain biking for me better than rush...ordering a new helmet and knee and elbow pads this week,seems prudent after last weeks wreck and another near wreck the other day...ready for some more...
 

Jericho Mile

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im still on my rush kick,their catalog is pretty big,maybe have 2/3 of the studio albums barring some of the keyboard heavy mid 80's stuff...i dunno what it is,but nothing suits mountain biking for me better than rush...ordering a new helmet and knee and elbow pads this week,seems prudent after last weeks wreck and another near wreck the other day...ready for some more...

Remember that song "Battle Scar" Rush combined with Max Webster? It's actually on a Max Webster album. Loved that song when I was a kid.

Well...I guess I'm being drawn into competition and socializing. I've been listening to some of my new racing friends...and finding my way to web sites geared toward the local ultra running community.

I figure I need to train at distances beyond 20 miles (about my limit unsupported)...and the community is there to help. Just signed up for a 32 mile training run in Feb...and thinking about adding another race in March (50K). The way I feel..is that...the more times I push myself into longer distances (50K and beyond) the quicker I'll be able to learn and get used to those distances. It's already starting to happen...so I'm going to keep pushing my comfort zone. It's easier to train distances when the runs are organized.

I can't believe how many events there are to participate in...races everywhere...training runs everywhere. I'm on the open market now...hard enough remembering names...but I'm on a wave of education into how this sport has a cult following..some very devoted people..pushing it along. There's an abundance of love
 

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