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a self pollinated F1, what might pop out?

F2F

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replacement for the the plant that turned out male
tiny seedling, but it's a picture so if anyone can see it or not the feedback will be appreciated

Believe you are sorted. I can see the pic igrow.

Cheers,
F2F
 

igrowone

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thank you F2F, i post pics now with confidence
and so fellow gene junkies, my 'male' sure looks like a male
straight up normal, dropping pollen which be put into cold storage
picture is poor, c'est la vie i guess
but a decent branchy male, no pistils or weirdness
will the pollen be fertile? stay tuned
 

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Hammerhead

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I still cant see any pics. Its the only thread I have this issue. I asked Gypsy for help he has no fix at this time. I tied to go to your albums and look there but all I seed are old albums dating back to 2009, 2010, 2018.. Sorry cant participate :shucks:
 

igrowone

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I still cant see any pics. Its the only thread I have this issue. I asked Gypsy for help he has no fix at this time. I tied to go to your albums and look there but all I seed are old albums dating back to 2009, 2010, 2018.. Sorry cant participate :shucks:
sorry too, i think there are few others with the same problem
i'll start checking my permissions
 

igrowone

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picture test

picture test



ok, made a new album
been using attachments forever, size seemed smaller?
just being frugal with the server space
hope this pic shows for all
 

Phagoos

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The new album helped. I can see the picture in post #300 while I can't see the picture in post #297 while logged in.
 

igrowone

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flower #4 of nl#5 x BW hermie pollen

flower #4 of nl#5 x BW hermie pollen



greetings good friends, it's all good at the moment
my normal male still looks like a normal male
popping out pollen and cold storage it where it goes
now for something to actually fertilize
this is #4 of the nl#5 x bw seeds
vegged kind of slow, 6 nodes, wanted more but stretch said 'now'
i can only pray this is a normal female
but tell you the truth it could be another male, hadn't seen that as a possibility before, or at least low odds
2 weeks should tell the tale
 

igrowone

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SHOCK!

SHOCK!

well me droogies, I have an interesting tale
my #4 seed of the nl#5 x BW hermie cross looks like a male
another straight looking male, pics when it looks like a full grown rooster
a ratio of 2 males to 2 females - 1 of those females was a hermie
looks like reg seeds to me, ain't that something
now it's known the classic XY model for cannabis is not the best model
it's more complicated than that, experiences like these make a mockery of XY
cannabis sex determination is truly a complicated affair, maybe the most complicated in the plant kingdom
so feeling the marks of battle, hoping i can get some decent butter from the males
but onto the next stage, never say die!
i'm really interested in the new S1s
they damn well better be feminized, even if some hermie comes along for the ride
it's in the sprouter, new knowledge will be gained
 

igrowone

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a wrinkle to my grow, near disaster
went and bought me a nice new pot a month or so ago
actually was a very cheap 2 gallon
it was a little narrower from my usual, but it's what i found at lowes that day
piece of crap gave me root rot, had 4 openings around the bottom
guess what? they don't work in quite the way i thought for drainage
so it's just about recovered, #4 of the nl#5 x bw
not what i needed at this time
 

igrowone

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and time for a genetics update, no pics today but soon enough
a review of the 4 nl#5 x BW
#1 - a hermie, got to give a nod for quality, better weed than #2
#2 - pretty good femme, low yield though, maybe picked a little early
#3 - a mind blower to me, it was a straight male, no pistils at all
#4 - confession time, thought it was a male, guess again
it's a hermie, but differently behaving
looked all male at the start, pushed into a well lit room to ripen
flowering tops have appeared, the male parts tend to be on the lower half of the flower area
quite different from the trait in all the other hermies
male parts always mixed through the bud, not fun to pluck
my new panic mode is building a new chamber, 1 short at the moment
 

igrowone

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evenings greetings, some promised pictures and their stories
#1 above is the nl#5 x bw - #5 of the seeds popped
just into flower, root rot scarred her(hopefully), but has bounced back
#2 is #4 of the nl#5 x bw - and it sure looked like a male for a while
tossed it by a window and it starts really flowering on me
more hermie low on the bud, more female higher
kind of amazed it's flowering at all, likes the window i guess
and throwing up trichomes to boot
 

igrowone

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greetings fellow earthicans, and any non earthicans for that matter
so to refresh the memory i nearly killed my current nl#5 x bw by root rot
having that recovery i had to try again, plant dropped hard
thought i snapped it completely
instead, one bud branch was cut off clean
quick thoughts and to the cloning waters it went
and seems to have survived
that said, it's a female! looking pretty good
and i have a freak growing, that's for the next post though
 

igrowone

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a freak was promised and a freak is shown
not really freaky but it's not your average pheno
got some duckfoot leaves on this plant
the middle leaves on the upper nodes is smaller than normal
the one to the upper left is a classic duckfoot
partial expression of the trait
pretty unusual but not super rare from what i've read
this is the 1st seed of the 1st nl#5 x bw that hermied
so it's a S1, or is it? it's not a S2, call it S1.5
 

Cakeboy

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#3 - a mind blower to me, it was a straight male, no pistils at all

Hey bud

how long did you flower the full on male for? just curious whether the pistils would have eventually shown.

The one that was male first then female parts appearing later appears to be the kind that DJ Short seems to say are good for breeding.

though this doesn't seem to be the general consensus on ICmag which is more if it herms in any way its no good for breeding.:biglaugh:

Haven't noticed anyone else taking up this particular mantle from DJ
and would be interested in hearing if anyone has explored his assertions in this regard.

Cheers man
 

igrowone

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the male was flowered for maybe 3 weeks
it was at its height of flower when i cut, it's been dried and will go into butter
not a single pistil seen during that time
the 'male' that fooled me is going strong by a window, it's actually budding out
keeping it as clean as i can, it's a hermie though so we'll see if it has a genetic future
 

igrowone

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confirmation on the #5 seed of nl#5 x BW
a clean girl, and looking much healthier in its new pot
that gives this firm result on the 5 grows
2 hermies
2 regular femmes
1 male, solid looking male
the last hermie(which is current) has shown different traits than the usual hermies that have been seen
male parts down low on the bud, except for 1 right at the bud tips
 

Cakeboy

Feeding the Roos
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At times I have grown out bag seeds not knowing if they were fathered by a hermi. I always thought if I got male and female progeny I could safely assume the parents were male and female. Not so obviously.
 

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