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A Question For The Seed Experts

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Guest

I have a question, yet so far have been unable to get much help from anyone here..

lets hope someone can help me!

Ok...

One of my female plants threw out a small male flower at the very bottom of her stalk. I noticed it kinda late, and pulled the whole plant... but the male flower opened up. The pollen immediatley dropped into the soil, and ddin't seem to hit anything. I sprayed all the plants down, and figured since the main buds were 3 feet higher, and no wind/fan was blowing down low... that if anything... i would only end up with a few seeds.

When this happened ...the plants were around 30 days flower.. ak48, white rhino, straw diesel, hasberry, etc..

Now they are around 40 days or so... and im noticing the calyxes on all the plants are swelling like seeded plants..

Are calyxes supposed to be "empty"? if they havent been polinated?

When i open the little calyxes with some sharp ass scissors... these little mini-balls, lookin like premie seeds are deep inside. They are very very small... and i dont know if i'm buggin or not... Do you know if these are premie seeds? Or do even unpollinated calyxes have matter inside of them?

The plants have another 2 weeks togo... and i absolutley cannot have seeds... this bud is being given to someone to clear up an old debt..

If these are premie seeds... should i pick the plantsd early then... and just deal with less yield... then a seeded crop thats not worth it for smoke?


Confused here... and hopin someone knows the deal..

thanks for any help

bILL
 

Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
Veteran
Sounds like you got a hermie
those do sound like premie seed.

You can just pick off the male flower, but as you now know.. before they let pollen fly.
i'm betting it won't be too bad a few seeds.

Perhaps you have a light leak, or some other stress on the plants.
Some strians may have a Male flower or two at the end of the flower cycle.

Hope it's not too bad for you. I think I would wait...unless it's real bad.

Sin
 
G

Guest

i found the one hermie flower... that wasnt the issue..

infact.. i even know why it happened, i had a timer malfunction, that fucked up one rotation a bit..

it was a reeferman potent purple that hermied... and the straw diesel was even fine

im worried about the fuckin seeds developing... i guess that means its chop time

shit shit fuck fuck


thanks for the hlp homey

bILL
 

Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
Veteran
Hard to beleive that 1 male flower would do that kind of damage.

I've had worse hermie and not so many seeds.. not perfect but acceptable.
Check it out before you hack em.

Sin
 
G

Guest

Well considering the buds are seed pods and they all contain a little seed type thing from the get go I would let em go. The calyxes will swell when they dont get polinated but if they are forming seed the bud size will hault and the calyxes will swell with seed till they bust open. And since its 2 weeks to go I would not worry. I have opened up pods on plants for the hell of it on buds that were not pollenated and saw little seed type things and freaked out. Turns out thats normal they all got it.
 

Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
Veteran
I've seen the lil white seed thing.. but not on all of the plants or buds I've smoked or growen.

When I do I assumed it was just inmature seed that didn't get a chance to finish.
But you are right.. I've seen them when no males or hermie was around at all.

Sin
 
G

Guest

Yea sin, Im not 100% he could have seeds but I know I have seen those little seed like structures in many pods that never grew to be seeds so thats my guess.
 

Sinfuldreams

Basement Garden Gnome
Veteran
I do remember reading that sometimes a Female will try to put out seed even though it's not been pollinated, the seed never matures and of course would be stearle.

Something to do with needing the next generation of Plants in the wild, where few males or nature just didn't get that plant much if any pollen.. Might be a hang over from the landrace?

Just 2 cents

Sin
 

VanGrow

Member
Let it grow.....I have had that happen and didnt catch it....only got some seeds near the contamination area.....then one or 2 in a few buds here and there......100% not worth pulling those plants early thats for sure...what your seeing is most likely normal, those are most likely false seed pods that will fill with thc....that pod is just the shit inside like was said above........in the worst case...id rather have some killer weed with a few seeds than some premature weed without......when it happend to me anyone who got a seeded bud was happy.....i was like sorry dude ...and they were like no im gonna save em...wopeeeee..... :woohoo:


VG :wave:
 
G

Guest

I believe what you are talking about is the ovule...

When a grain of pollen lands on a pistil....

the grain germinates and a tube from the pollen grows down the pistil eventually

reaching the ovule....

then a seed is made...

I believe you are seeing the unpollinated ovule...


The swollen calyx may even when unpollenated may be a means to disguise real seeds from birds....

Those plants who did this may have a survival advantage over those that dont....
 
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G

Guest

AWESOME!

im glad i waited till after work to do anything

i think you guys are right... these little "seed-like" things... i've never seen them before, and i've grown many crops.. but i also never hacked one of the calyxes open to check on 'em

its funny... they are very very small... smaller than premi-seeds, and its been over 10 days since that lone bastard purple thai male flower showed me his stuff..

i am glad some of you have been through this, i woulda ended up loosing alot of weight if i cut them early..

also.. its mainly the strrawberry diesel that has calyxes that look more "seeded". But i have a feeling this is a particular trait from that strain, as it has sooo many calyxes, and not alot of hairs... not like the ak48 which is loaded with hairs... or even the White rhino...

and the buds keep packin on weight.. more and more calyxes/hairs pop up.... bud size has not "halted" for calyx swelling.. so i think you are right!!!

i just worry because the straw-diesel has so many visible (false) seed pod lookin calyxes, almost reminds me of a seeded bud, def diferent than anything i've seen before..

and i didn't think 1 little flower could do all that damage, but hey... better safe then sorry

and vanGrow homey... believe me... seeds are normally of value to me... just not in this cicrumstance.. i need to come up with a clean ounce to give some guy i've owed to for over a year now

peace to you all.. you have done so much..

and i appreciate it more than i can even begin to say!

bILL


 
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