A new possible threat to Stoner Liberties - Pain Management

[armedoldhippy]

a good friend of mine was tossed from his pain med script because his last urinalysis test did not show that he was taking his meds. his doc did not care that he tested positive for pot, but was outraged because of the "false negative" which led the doc to accuse him of selling his pills. hell, he can't WALK without the meds...

 

[HempKat]

I cant even get my scripts filled.Seriously!And when I do its like 2 bucks for a 10 mil. when it used to be about 35 cents apiece.HK I have to piss for these folks twice a year,and lets say I'm really lucky to having a good relationship with the office girls.Hempcat surely they're not watchin your wanker man its a breeze if you know someone taking meth and not smoking lol,its eazy to keep it hot and that's the trick.Heat to 100 degrees and heat the water in a half gallon mason jar even hotter.Anywhere from 90 to 100F and you're in the pee pee zone

True, they just send you into the bathroom by yourself so it would be fairly easy to use someone else's piss. The problem is nobody should have to. The main doctor at this pain management said to me during the last visit that there were two red flags because of my urines. One was that it showed a history of marijuana use. Yet it only came up the one time in the first test. All three of the following tests were free of marijuana. So where is the history? For all that test proves I tried it once, weeks before I came to see him. It would seem to me to call it a history of use they would need at least one or two other positives to establish that. What really gets me though is he told me that just the one positive for Marijuana is enough for any doctor to stop seeing me. That's the same as saying, if you use marijuana you don't deserve to be treated medically. He went on to say that if he prescribed narcotics to me because of that one positive, he could lose his license. Which to me is a critical issue of the government regulations related to narcotics. I would not be surprised if that is true but if it is it puts doctors at conflict with their Hippocratic oath which among other things says that a doctor is supposed to think of a patients needs before his own. When a patient is denied treatment or given less effective treatment because the doctor is fearful of losing his license the doctor is thinking of himself first.

The other red flag was that they found in my first urine another narcotic besides the one I was prescribed before coming there. Basically they found oxycodone because my wife would give me one of her Percocets if I experienced pain greater then my hydrocodone could handle which happened now and then usually after doing something like mowing the lawn or any sort of heavy lifting. Here's the thing though, I had been wanting for some time to talk to my doctor (before pain management) about changing my hydrocodone to oxycodone but I didn't because every time I would talk about upping my dose or getting something stronger she would kind of freak out and make a big deal about it, as if I was just trying to get stronger narcotics to get high on. Basically I was getting the hydrocodone at a rate of 90 pills per month which translates to taking one every 8 hours, problem was they would only stay effective for half that time or at the most 6 hours. I noticed from taking my wife's Percocets that they seemed to stay effective for that whole 8 hours and therefore if I could get a script for 90 of what she was taking I would be good and not have to be in pain several hours out of the day.

The real issue I have though is that from day one with these pain management people it has felt more like I was dealing with parole and probation rather than a doctor's office. I didn't want to go to this place, I was forced to. Which was because the rules regarding treating chronic pain had gotten so annoying for doctors that our primary doctor of 12 years changed her practice to a field where she wouldn't have to deal with those regulations. Then when we started shopping around we found that few doctors were doing pain management themselves but rather referring patients out to the only 3 clinics within a reasonable distance and if you didn't like any of them the next closest ones were about a 3 hour drive (one way) away. The few still doing pain management weren't taking any new patients. What I was expecting was for this pain management place to at a minimum continue the pain pills that had mostly worked for me for the past two years based on a documented and verifiable condition that in the past would have gotten me a script for stronger pain pills (Percocet) with no problem. Instead I am getting an inferior treatment plan for pain that isn't working and the doctor treating my like some hardcore narcotic addict. Had I known in advance that this was how it was going to be I could have made sure my urine was completely clean. Which creates a real hazard, a patient should feel that he can be completely open and honest with his or her doctor. If however the patient feels he or she needs to hide things, this could lead to serious problems that could potentially place the patient at risk of greater problems or even possibly death.

 

[HempKat]

a good friend of mine was tossed from his pain med script because his last urinalysis test did not show that he was taking his meds. his doc did not care that he tested positive for pot, but was outraged because of the "false negative" which led the doc to accuse him of selling his pills. hell, he can't WALK without the meds...

Yeah I have a friend who ran into that problem, his condition was greater then what his medication would cover and as a result he ended up taking his pain pills at a greater rate then he was supposed to and then he would run out before his next refill (which you have to come in and pee before you will get it). He would just tough it out though for the last week or so before he was due for a refill and then come up negative. The first time he told the doctor the reason was because he needed something stronger and so was taking his pain meds more often then he should. Instead of giving him something better the doctor just told him he needed to follow the directions on the prescription and only take them as often as the prescription said to. Unfortunately when a person is in pain and has something close at hand that will relieve that pain it's pretty damn hard to not take it when you need it but rather only take it when the script says you should. After the second time he was refused further treatment on the grounds that the doctor felt he was selling his pills. He now has to travel more then 100 miles each month to get pain medication because that's the closest doctor he could find that would treat him.