sre these from breeder descriptions?i find breeder descriptions to be terribly inaccurate for outdoors
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sre these from breeder descriptions?i find breeder descriptions to be terribly inaccurate for outdoors
Own Garden
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Leb27 from HFH is really early strain.
HFH strains due ripen earlier. Have grown numerous of theirs....great for guerrilla or backyard.
They are outdoor plants. Most don't respond well indoors....or at least our experience.
This is a good thread for anyone north of the sweet spot, California in North America, Spain, Italy, and Greece in Europe. I recommend figuring out where your breeder is located. For instance Hybrids from Hell, esbe's seed bank, is located in Denmark. His finishing times are valid for 55 degree N. Ace Seeds is located in Spain so their finishing times match around 40 degrees N.
I've found this website to be a useful tool for figuring out length of day for where I live. And measuring when seeds from where will start to flower for my latitude.
https://www.timeanddate.com/
Plug in the date and the city and it'll tell you sunrise and sunset times and the length of day. We just had a beautiful lunar eclipse you can find those on the website as well.
It's been noted already in this thread that most drug strains of cannabis that aren't equatorial are triggered to flower when the day length drops below 14 hours. The other factor is how many weeks the strain takes to finish. Outdoors most strains finish in 6-10 weeks. Which for most places means the month of October.
Bingo!
Seed company bullshit, like most of the cannabis industry bullshit is just that!
Even for indoor grows their flower times are often "optimistic", but what's even worse are their descriptions or names. (One company has the chutzpah to call a strain that is 70% sativa, a kush?....those Fucker don't even know anything about genetics).
As someone with over 40 years of growing experience, I trust my own eyes and feeling about when to harvest.
As for outdoors and finishing times, you are also bang on about latitudes!
Latitude is the key when it comes to outdoor harvest, unless you can provide artificial darkness via tarps or some other light blocking method.
An early finishing strain in South Cal, could be a "no,finisher" (I.e. rot in the forests before it was mature) in Washington state.
If you have strain which is an "early maturing" strain at your latitude, give your latitude, so other growers can extrapolate to their locale, otherwise it is not too helpful info.
P.S. Are you therevverend who was on overgrow about 10-15 years ago?....if so, I remember some of your grows....they were outstanding!
Seed company bullshit, like most of the cannabis industry bullshit is just that!
Even for indoor grows their flower times are often "optimistic", but what's even worse are their descriptions or names. (One company has the chutzpah to call a strain that is 70% sativa, a kush?....those Fucker don't even know anything about genetics).
As someone with over 40 years of growing experience, I trust my own eyes and feeling about when to harvest.
As for outdoors and finishing times, you are also bang on about latitudes!
Latitude is the key when it comes to outdoor harvest, unless you can provide artificial darkness via tarps or some other light blocking method.
An early finishing strain in South Cal, could be a "no,finisher" (I.e. rot in the forests before it was mature) in Washington state.
If you have strain which is an "early maturing" strain at your latitude, give your latitude, so other growers can extrapolate to their locale, otherwise it is not too helpful info.
P.S. Are you therevverend who was on overgrow about 10-15 years ago?....if so, I remember some of your grows....they were outstanding!
Own Garden
Member
i remember doing the math on lats and finish times for certain clones...i think it was 6 days per one lat unit....so if im at 44n and a clone finishes september 30th,the same clone would finish 12 days earlier at 42n,43n would finish 6 days earlier...etc....something like that
Sometimes thats true but there are so many other factors that can be involved in that process like root restriction, stress, health, temperature, and who knows what that effects the plant. If all else remained same though I would agree
Own Garden
Member
Easy Sativa and Purple Power from FS is really early, good mold resistant, but is not really strong... day time smoke....
Sweet afghan delight aka black domina
Sorry bro, its actually black domina...although i got its brandname wrong, i know for a fact it finishes early not just a hunch. 
GuerillaMonster
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What are the big strains this year? Looking to get back into it for next season!
Greencedar
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I would check out Vermontman’s green mountain lines. He’s got a few mold resistant pure sativas with his 70s Oaxaca lBLs. Purple satalite is his Nepalese cross (close to semi auto). Green mountain grape is his poly hybrid that I grow every year. There’s good purple phenos that make amazing hash and finish mid September. Green phenos that are totally mildew proof at 42N and finish around end of September. He has a couple other f1s that are still fast and resistant but come in a bit later but are very sativa in effect. He’s been line breeding the oaxcana for 30 years selecting for fast finish, resistance, and the smells and highs are really good. Easy trimming weed. Bud density is prefect. A about as tight as I’d want for outdoor.
Check out his thread. Tons of info and a very transparent breeder. Here are my GMG this year. I put it out June 1st I kept it root bound for the first month then put it into 20gal. If I put it in the 20gal June 1st I get a 7ft plant with 20% more yield but they tend to get hungry that big in organics so I keep them a bit smaller. They trigger first week of August. Pics were snapped yesterday.
In the ground they get big. Around 8ft x 4ft. Lots of pics on the thread.
Check out his thread. Tons of info and a very transparent breeder. Here are my GMG this year. I put it out June 1st I kept it root bound for the first month then put it into 20gal. If I put it in the 20gal June 1st I get a 7ft plant with 20% more yield but they tend to get hungry that big in organics so I keep them a bit smaller. They trigger first week of August. Pics were snapped yesterday.
In the ground they get big. Around 8ft x 4ft. Lots of pics on the thread.
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WyattHerbShiwa
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Early Outdoor Strain List: Strains that finish by the end of September or sooner.
Date Created: 1/11/2015
It took me 20+ Hours to make this list. I couldn't find a comprehensive list like this anywhere so I bit the bullet and went through all the seed banks on the single seed center one by one strain by strain reading every single description. I think they are a great distributor of seeds especially to the United States.
The strains marked with a * are the ones that I want to grow myself some day
I hope this list helps YOU out!
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The following seed banks are from The Single Seed Center:
Example:
Seedbank:
Strain - Finish Date
00 Seeds:
Bubblegum - End of September
*Caramel Kush - Middle of September
*Northern Lights - Middle September
Sweet Critical - End of September
710 Genetics:
Fools Gold - End of September
ACE:
*Erdpurt - End of September
Mazar-i-Sharif - End of September
*Pakistan Chitral Kush - End of September
Advanced:
Critical Soma - End of September
*Heavy Bud - Beginning of September
Ice Kush - End of September
Shark Widow - End of September
Somango Widow - End of September
White Kush - End of September
All-in Medicinal:
Benedicta - End of September
*Bubble Boom - End of September
Sugar Cream - End of September
Xeddar - End of September
Alphakronik Genes:
American Kush - End of September
Cronuts - End of September
Heisenberg Kush - End of September
Queso Fuertes - End of September
*Snowdizzle - End of September
Amaranta:
Critical - End of September
Northern Light - End of September
Apothecary Genetics:
Afghani OG - End of September
Ape Berry OG - End of September
Black & Bluberry - End of September
Blue Afi - End of September
*Bubba Berry - End of September
Cannaberry - End of September
Chuck Berry - End of September
Dream Berry - End of September
Earlywave - End of September
Frosty Berry - End of September
Orange Berry - End of September
Orange Fizz - End of September
*Pink Berry - End of September
Purple Wave - End of September
*Rainbow Sherbert - End of September
Sour Berry - End of September
Barney's Farm:
*Amnesia Lemon - End of September
Blue Cheese - End of September
CBD Blue Shark - End of September
CBD Critical Cure - End of September
Crimea Blue - End of September
Critical Kush - End of September
*LSD - Middle of September
*Pineapple Chunk - End of September
Red Dragon - End of September
Vanilla Kush - End of September
Violator Kush - End of September
BC Bud Depot:
BC Blueberry - Middle of September
BC Kush - End of September
BC Mango - End of September
BC Pinewarp - End of September
*BC Sweet Tooth - Beginning of September
Harlequin Bx4 - Middle of September
Sweet God - End of September
Sweet Island Skunk - End of September
Texada Timewarp - End of September
The Big - End of September
*The Purps - End of September
*Ultimate Purple - End of September
BCN:
*Masa Kritica - Beginning of September
Big Buddha:
Cheesy Dick - End of September
Big Head:
easy AK XL - End of September
*Head Stone - End of September
Heavy Head - End of September
Bio Hazard:
Big Lights - End of September
Criminal Jack - End of September
Blimburn:
*CR+ - Middle of September
Dama Blanca - End of September
Narkosis - End of September
*Original Clon - Middle of September
California Breeders Association:
Diesel Maui Dawg - End of September
Diesel Truth Band - End of September
Canadian Bred Seeds:
*Early Sativa - Beginning of September
Lethal Purple - End of September
*Madame Poison - Beginning of September
Cannabiogen:
Pakistan Chitral Kush - End of September
CBD:
Critical - Middle of September
Magma - End of September
Northern - Middle of September
One to One - End of September
*Shark - Middle of September
Widow - End of September
Zen - End of September
Centennial:
Dakini Kush - End of September
Ceres:
Easy Rider - End of September
CH9:
*Chemdog x Vintage 2006 - End of September
Citral x POW 33 - End of September
HPG13 x Vintage 2006 - End of September
Northern Lights Skunk x POW 33 - End of September
Toxic Blue 33 - End of September
De Sjamaan:
Brainstorm - End of September
*Widow Ryder - End of September
Delicious:
Black Russian - Middle of September
*Cheese Candy - Late September (I OWN THIS)
Critical Sensi Star - Middle of September
*Critical Yumbolt - Middle of September
Fruity Cronic Juice - Middle of September
Marmalate - Middle of September
Northern Light Blue - Middle of September
Sugar Black Rose - Middle of September
Dinafem:
Critical+ 2.0 - End of September
DJ Short:
Flo - End of September
Dr. Krippling:
*Incredible Bulk - Middle of September
*Kripple Roulette - Middle of September
Kripple Shock - End of September
Dr Underground:
Painkiller - End of September
Dutch Passion:
Durban Poison - End of September
*Khola - Middle of September
Elite:
*Black Hole - Middle of September
Caprichosa Thai - Middle of September
Early Widow - End of September
Emerald Triangle:
*Bubba 76 - End of September
*Lost Coast OG - End of September
Mastodon Kush - End of September
Eva:
*Jamaican Dream - End of September
Expert Seeds:
Afghan Skunk - End of September
Black Domina x Maple Leaf - End of September
Blue Cheese - End of September
Northern Lights - End of September
White Widow x Critical - End of September
Female:
Easy Sativa - End of September
*Maroc - Beginning of September
Outdoor c99 - End of September
*Purple Maroc- Beginning of September
Pure AK - Middle of September
Purple Power - End of September
Red Purps - Middle of September
Feminised:
Chronic - End of September
Easy Kush - End of September
Finest Medicinal Seeds:
Peace Maker - End of September
Flying Dutchmen:
*Haley's Comet - End of September
Freedom of Seeds:
*Blue Angel - End of September
Dr. Kush - End of September
Godberry - End of September
French Touch:
*Douce Nuit - End of September
Garden of Green:
*Kush Mass - End of September
Genehtik :
*Kritikal Bilbo - End of September
Super Kritical - End of September
Green Devil:
*Sweet Clements - End of September
Green Factory:
Little Bird - End of September
Green House:
Diamond Girl - End of September
El Nio - End of September
Exodus Cheese - End of September
*Great White Shark - End of September
Himalaya Gold - End of September
Kalashnikova - End of September
*Pure Kush - End of September
Super Bud - End of September
Super Critical - End of September
The Doctor - End of September
HeavyWeight:
*Green Ninja - End of September
*Midnight Mass - Middle of September
Hero:
*Spider Skunk - Middle of September
High Quality:
Early Girl - End of September
Original Highway Delight - End of September
Outsider - End of September
Purple Tops - End of September
Homegrown Fantaseeds :
Caramella - End of September
Flashback - End of September
Homegrown Purple - End of September
*Master Kush - End of September (I OWN THIS)
Top 44 - End of September
Humboldt:
*Bubba Kush 2.0 - End of September
Hy-Pro:
Enemy of State - End of September
Jordan of the Islands:
*Gods Treat - End of September
Gods Afghani - End of September
*Gods Lemon Skunk - End of September
Kali's Fruitful Cannabis:
Kali's White Shadow - End of September
Kannabia:
Kannabia Special - End of September
Karamelo - End of September
*Karibena - End of September
*Pato #1 - End of September
KC Brains:
*Brains Damage - End of September
*California Special - End of September
*KC36 - End of September
Kulu:
Early Girl - End of September
Hollands Hoop - End of September
Mandala:
*Mandala #1 - End of September
Medical:
Channel+ - End of September
Hammerhead - Middle of September
Medicann:
Afghan - End of September
Mr. Nice:
Critical Mass - End of September
*Early Queen - End of September
*Early Skunk - Middle of September
*G13 Skunk - End of September
Next Generation:
*Avalon - End of September
*Bonkers - End of September
Nirvana:
*Blue Mystic - Beginning of September
Durban Poison - End of September
Four Way - End of September
*Ice - Beginning of September
*Misty - Beginning of September
*Papaya - Beginning of September
*White Widow - Beginning of September
Original Sensible Seed Company:
Black Destroyer - End of September
*Black Gum - End of September
Sweet Kush - End of September
Philosopher Seeds:
*Early Maroc - Beginning of September
Positronics:
Critical #47 - End of September
Critical #47 CBD - End of September
Pure:
*B3 Medical - Middle of September
*Big Skunk - Beginning of September
Pyramid:
*Alpujarrena - Beginning of September
Anesthesia - End of September
Anubis - End of September
Blue Pyramid - End of September
*Fresh Candy - Beginning of September
Galaxy - End of September
Kryptonite - Middle of September
Northern Lights - End of September
Osiris - End of September
Shark - End of September
Super Hash - End of September
R-Kiem Seeds:
*ICER - End of September
Negra 44 - End of September
*R-kiem - End of September
Reggae:
*Kalijah - End of September
Resin:
*Bubblicious - End of September
LA Ultra - End of September
Ripper:
*Black Valley - End of September
*Criminal+ - Middle of September
Double Glock - End of September
Grape Gum - End of September
*Washing Machine - End of September
Royal Dutch Genetics:
*Special K - End of September
Royal Queen Seeds:
Blue Cheese - End of September
*Blue Mystic - Beginning of September
Bubble Kush - End of September
*Candy Kush Express (Fast Version) - End of September
Medical Mass - End of September
Painkiller XL - End of September
*Pineapple Kush - End of September
*Somango XL - End of September
*Special Kush #1 - End of September
Special Queen #1 - End of September
*Speedy Chile (Faster Version) - End of September
*White Widow - Beginning of September
Sagarmatha:
*Early Riser - Middle of September
Samsara:
Crazy Miss Hyde - End of September
*El Alquimista - End of September
*Punky Lion - End of September
*Spiritual Punk - Middle of September
Secret Valley:
*Purple Pineberry - Middle of September
Seedsman:
*Ata Tundra - End of September
Early Skunk - End of September
G13 Skunk - End of September
Mama Mia - End of September
*Nemesis - End of September
Northern Lights - End of September
*Original Afghani #1 - End of September
Sensi:
Afghani #1 - End of September
Durban - End of September
*Early Pearl - End of September
*Hash Plant - End of September
Serious:
*Biddy Early - End of September
*Serious 6 - End of September
SickMeds:
*Bizarre - End of September
Green Crack - Middle of September
Spice of Life:
Sweet Tooth #1 - End of September
Spliff:
*Blue Medi Kush - End of September
*Fast Bud Outdoor - End of September
*Gold Rush Outdoor - End of September
*Polm Gold - Middle of September
*Sweet "n" Sour Outdoor - End of September
Super Strains:
*7th Wave - End of September
El Cucaracha - End of September
*Enemy of the State - Beginning of September
Sweet Seeds:
*Black Jack F1 (Fast Version) - Middle of September
Cream Caramel F1 (Fast Version) - End of September
*Cream Mandarine F1 (Fast Version) - Beginning of September
Green Poison - End of September
*Green Poision F1 (fast Version) - Middle of September
Ice Cool - End of September
*Jack 47 (Fast Version) - Middle of September
*Killer Kush F1 (Fast Version) - Beginning of September
Mohan Ram - End of September
SAD (Sweet Afghani Delicious S1) - End of September
*SAD (Sweet Afghani Delicious S1) - Beginning of September
Snow Fruit - End of September
Taylor'd Genetics:
Rocky Mountain High - End of September
TGAsubcool:
*3D (The Third Dimension) - End of September
*Mickey Kush - End of September
*Qrazy Train - End of September
*Space Bomb - End of September
TH Seeds:
*Mendocino Madness - End of September
Top Tao Seeds:
*Tao Purple - End of September
*Early Top Tao - Beginning of September
Venus Genetics:
Cheeskaberry - End of September
Double Cheese - End of September
Kritical Max - End of September
*Lavender - End of September
VIP:
Critical VIP - End of September
*Torpedo - End of September
Vision:
Big Bud - End of September
*Blue Power - End of September (I OWN THIS)
La Blanca Gold - End of September
Northern Lights - End of September
World of Seeds:
Afghan Kush x Black Domina - End of September
*Afghan Kush x Skunk - End of September
*Afghan Kush x Yumbolt- End of September
*High Tension - End of September
*Madness - Middle of September
Mazar x Great White Shark - End of September
Mazar x White Rhino - End of September
Northern Light x Big Bud - End of September
Northern Light x Skunk - End of September
*Space - Middle of September
Add some "Hybrids from Hell" and your might get a photoregular that does finish within September or earlier. i am currently cursing myself for even believing a word of the descriptions i.e of "Green Poison Fast" which hast like 1cm wide buds today and will not finish at all - or at the end of Oct.
i have 10 females of that one in mine and other gardens - NONE are early. None.
Northern Lights the same thing.
i will, like i have in the past, stick to northern outdoor strains for outdoor - and Autos. Unless you live in Spain these seedbank ad-texts are plain BS.
moose/MI
Well-known member
I understand you're pain.
I just want to say that growing Green Mountain Seeds gear this year has been refreshing.
Everything he's told me so far has been on point grow wise.
Now it will be down to the smoke.
If it's anywhere near as good as Vermontman and 100 other people have said then it's a real winner.
This one of GM Grape. I also have PS and MG running.
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Old Piney
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A bit of real time info, it's a bit later.here it is pictured yesterday at 40 North
