A few things that I've learned about growing in coco with a drip systm DTW

[highsociety420]

Got it, thanks chronosync for the reply.

Now i'm in doubt about my system. I have just built a drip system from my local store, but i dont think they will work as it should do. I'm concerned if it will let some dry spots and if these spots will blow the system. Here are some pics of it.

I also have some doubt about the smart pots. Will it work well in this system? I think maybe it will facilitate the evaporation thru the side, dont? Im having problem with salt build up and pretende to put some hydroton in the top as recommended. Also my RH is very low, but i cant buy a humidifier right now, so the water is evaporating too fast. I transplanted my plants too soon to a bigger pot too

A solution i thought to those problems is to change the smart pot to a plastic pot same size but different dimensions i got here, it has a smaller hole in the top, so would have less space between the drippers.

So guys, its my first time doing coco, any help would be very appreciated .

 

[highsociety420]

So what you guys think? Should I change my drip system? Add more drippers? Maybe change to another pot with a smaller top area?
And what about smart pots? Does it really evaporate water thru the sides? Is plastic pot better than the smarts for multi feeding in coco??
Someone knows?

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I personally wasn't a big fan of the smart pots for dtw coir scrogs. Maybe they can be dialed, but mine always built up a white residue on the side of the pot, which I thought was salt build up. It might have just been user error on my part, but I gave them up for a more rigid, easier to wash, traditional pot. I think plenty of people use them, so its up to u what u want to use.

Now for ur drip system, I don't see any pics. What size pots, and what r the details of the drip system. U can get by surprisingly with little spread, cause of coirs wicking capabilities.
I like 2 open end 1/4" standard drip lines per 2 gallon pot.

 

[PoweredByLove]

Terps are volatile....they evaporate off more in the heat......? I know cold makes for tighter (and slower) growth. Hot and humid can get you fluffy nugs, or so I'm told.

nah.
VPD

 

[Ganja baba]

Just a tip for drip lovers
If your drippers are proper bloked then you need to run some ph down threw your set up , it will de scale all salt white build up , I only use it neat but I would assume you can water it down and run it longer,
Oxy plus h202 will sterilise your res and drippers .
Im talking high pressure here .
At the end of each grow undo a corner or an end on the 20ml piping and turn the pump on and let some water gush out , should take a lot of scum with it ,
Also if you have a pre filter , looks like mesh in a housing then clean it with an old toothbrush every other week .
Products like drip clear
And the one from canna that you use with your feed def helps over all issues and keeps tank clean

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Excellent tips there, GB I'll defo be doing that. What I noticed about drip clean is that when I started using it I would not see the salt build up on my trays after they had dried, unlike the usual white crystals that I was used too.

 

[highsociety420]

Hey MM, i will put the photos again in the end of the post.

So, im running 5 little drippers, each has only one hole, connected all by a 1/4" PVC tube. 2 gallon pot too. But it always let the upper layer of the coco dry with tiny wet spots. I dont know if this water spread under the midium because i was hang watering before and it hasnt dried too much, so cant know.

About the pot i think ill let smart in this grow and change for traditional next grow. I'm just afraid it wont get enough oxygen. Do you think will be necessary to oxygenate the water with h2o2 or air compressor? I say by the traditional pot

i'm sorry, i have a lot of doubt.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Hey MM, i will put the photos again in the end of the post.

So, im running 5 little drippers, each has only one hole, connected all by a 1/4" PVC tube. 2 gallon pot too. But it always let the upper layer of the coco dry with tiny wet spots. I dont know if this water spread under the midium because i was hang watering before and it hasnt dried too much, so cant know.

About the pot i think ill let smart in this grow and change for traditional next grow. I'm just afraid it wont get enough oxygen. Do you think will be necessary to oxygenate the water with h2o2 or air compressor? I say by the traditional pot

i'm sorry, i have a lot of doubt.

Fancy little drip system bud!

U have 5 points of watering in a 2 gal pot, while I did very well with just 2. My friend was doing just one point, n 80% of his medium surface looked dry. He did very well, even though I was concerned he wasn't spreading it enough. So ur 5 points are more than enough. Now u just have to find the sweet spot for the amount n frequency. In 2 gallon pots I hand watered till they required water daily. then I hooked up the drip system, and watered twice a day till I seen they needed more, then I found my sweet spot at around 4 times a day. but these plants were definitely root bound by then, and that's when coir loves to be multi watered. Hope that helps.

 

[highsociety420]

Fancy little drip system bud!

U have 5 points of watering in a 2 gal pot, while I did very well with just 2. My friend was doing just one point, n 80% of his medium surface looked dry. He did very well, even though I was concerned he wasn't spreading it enough. So ur 5 points are more than enough. Now u just have to find the sweet spot for the amount n frequency. In 2 gallon pots I hand watered till they required water daily. then I hooked up the drip system, and watered twice a day till I seen they needed more, then I found my sweet spot at around 4 times a day. but these plants were definitely root bound by then, and that's when coir loves to be multi watered. Hope that helps.

Yeah, definitely that helped! Thanks a lot, MM. You took a heavy concern out of my back!

Any time soon i give you a feedback of the grow and how it all gone. Peace bro!

 

[Ganja baba]

Excellent tips there, GB I'll defo be doing that. What I noticed about drip clean is that when I started using it I would not see the salt build up on my trays after they had dried, unlike the usual white crystals that I was used too.

I think the white salts once dry become inurt . But sure look bad I'm sure to much can't be good , d block from canna was good to . The ph down def works on really stuburn scale used to use on my marine tank pumps would make them good as new don't take long to clear drippers , I've only ever replaced drippers a few times cause they are blocked in the last ten years

 

[highsociety420]

Hey HGO. May we see your drippers in action?

 

[highsociety420]

Hey Cap, I build my own drip system. It's very easy to do. I'll get some pics and a "how to" uploaded later. Stay away from the Bluemats, you can build your own system that will cost pennies and kicks bluemats ass.

Please HGO, i would like so much to see your drip system.

I'm getting some problems with mine, it created a hole behind the drip emitter because of erosion. Looks like its not getting the soil wet, just the spots around the tiny holes. I'm hand watering till i fix this problem.

I also have a doubt about pot, do you think you would have the same results if u had used airpot or smart pot? I know that would evaporate the water thru the sides, but u could just water more dont? I have some doubts, i understood your way to go, i find it brilliant for allowing the midium dry only by the roots, but i wanted to know about airpot. Would u use it with coco DTW
drip system?

 

[Ganja baba]

Hey MM, i will put the photos again in the end of the post.

So, im running 5 little drippers, each has only one hole, connected all by a 1/4" PVC tube. 2 gallon pot too. But it always let the upper layer of the coco dry with tiny wet spots. I dont know if this water spread under the midium because i was hang watering before and it hasnt dried too much, so cant know.

About the pot i think ill let smart in this grow and change for traditional next grow. I'm just afraid it wont get enough oxygen. Do you think will be necessary to oxygenate the water with h2o2 or air compressor? I say by the traditional pot

i'm sorry, i have a lot of doubt.

I've been drip feeding for 20 years and only can't remember 3 times I've bubbled my res to increase oxegen , all it does is increase your ph and make it swing , your drippers should have a little hole right above the dripper before it meets the pipe it's connected to , this allowes oxygen with each drip , if you do not have this then may be raise your drip out the soil and let it actually drip onto your coco ,

If you got to the Dutch dankring on line grow shop they should have some funcky drip irrigation stuff to look at ,
There are all so sprayers called bato Ray jets that spray water onto the surface of your pots , another option instead of drippers very good

 

[Ganja baba]

Hey Cap, I build my own drip system. It's very easy to do. I'll get some pics and a "how to" uploaded later. Stay away from the Bluemats, you can build your own system that will cost pennies and kicks bluemats ass.

Please HGO, i would like so much to see your drip system.

I'm getting some problems with mine, it created a hole behind the drip emitter because of erosion. Looks like its not getting the soil wet, just the spots around the tiny holes. I'm hand watering till i fix this problem.

I also have a doubt about pot, do you think you would have the same results if u had used airpot or smart pot? I know that would evaporate the water thru the sides, but u could just water more dont? I have some doubts, i understood your way to go, i find it brilliant for allowing the midium dry only by the roots, but i wanted to know about airpot. Would u use it with coco DTW
drip system?

I will take some picks of what I consider the only drip system worth using and post it for you , I'm not sure if you guys are taking low pressure drips with a small pump ? If so then I can't help because they are totally useless unless on a very small set up and they have issues all the time

 

[Ganja baba]

Here's some pics of the drip system we use
This is for a 20ml high pressure drip system
Can only seem to upload one pic at a time on this devise , this is the filter system inside is a filter ,

 

[Ganja baba]

Some other bits

 

[smokadepep]

A few questions for the dripping enthusiasts. I am setting up a system. I have two 4x4 tents one has 12 plants on the tray and the other has 9. They are in 1 gallon smart pots in a 3 to 1 coco to perilite ratio. I am building a drip manifold like pico's, and will have one for each tent which will run off of separate pumps from the same reservoir. Also I will be watering to very little to no run off using drip clean at 6 ml a gallon. Here are a few questions have.

How big a pump size should I have?
Should I use drippers or open end 1/4 inch tubing?
How many sites per a pot?
My reservoir is higher than my table, how can I prevent siphoning ?

any advice would be grateful.

 

[Ganja baba]

A few questions for the dripping enthusiasts. I am setting up a system. I have two 4x4 tents one has 12 plants on the tray and the other has 9. They are in 1 gallon smart pots in a 3 to 1 coco to perilite ratio. I am building a drip manifold like pico's, and will have one for each tent which will run off of separate pumps from the same reservoir. Also I will be watering to very little to no run off using drip clean at 6 ml a gallon. Here are a few questions have.

How big a pump size should I have?
Should I use drippers or open end 1/4 inch tubing?
How many sites per a pot?
My reservoir is higher than my table, how can I prevent siphoning ?

any advice would be grateful.

I Normaly have 4 sites per pot , drippers are better than open end as they give even presure , it is advisable to have at least 10% of your nutrient water coming out the bottom or you will have slower growth because of less oxegen exchange at the roots ,
You need an anti siphon value mate , your pump size is dependent on if you are high pressure and the pressure needed to open the abit syphon valve , hope this helps a little

 

[Ganja baba]

Have a look at here this is the kind of stuff I use , have a look give you some options
https://www.kiwiland.com/growshop/irrigation/

 

[Miraculous Meds]

ganja baba is giving good advice on drip systems. I like to use the low pressure cheap hydro pumps. But if u choose these pumps, I definitely suggest open end 1/4" tubing instead of drippers. The low pressure pumps cant keep equal pressure on the drippers n u will have clogging. True drip emitters require high pressure pumps to work correctly.

@smokadepp, in place of a anti siphon valve, u can drill a small hole in the feed line that sprays back into the res. This will oxygenate the res and break the siphon. It has to be above the res water level I believe though.

I like 1 dripper per 1 gal, 2 for 2gal, etc..., shoot for equal coverage as best u can.

I like the 400 gph to feed about 12, 1 gal plants. It all depends on ur table height, and a few other variables, such as the amount of pots, and lines per pot.

Also theres no need for the inline filter if ur dripping open end tube.