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_ross_'s Grow Diary
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Ok friend glad to see you. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to ride with you and learn from you. What kind of soil and water are you starting with?
For this run I started these seeds in some old FF Happy Frog. It had been sitting in the corner of my basement for a few years... and I didn't want to go purchase anything new. The last time I used soil from this bag, all the seeds were eaten by something. So, I tried something new and sterilized it in the oven -- 2 hours at 190F -- to kill any bugs or other nasties. I then reinoculated with something called "Fish Brew". I have only used Fish Brew on a few house plants but they seem to like it. And, I seem to have a large bloom of microbes so the inoculation seems to be working well.
Then I added, rice hulls, some dried alfalfa, and some granular humates.... I think that's it.
The water I use is usually the waste water from my RO drinking water system. It's filtered enough but still have some carbonates and gives me a low enough ppm.
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Day 11
A second Selected Siberian has sprouted, as of this morning.
The Nanda Devi in the red solo cup seem to be doing well.
All things considered, I think they are doing well. They are in a basement that is around 61-65. They are on a heat mat to keep them a little warmer. They also have a humidity dome on them. I took them outside for 15 or so minutes today to let them get some real sunshine. It's going to be warm and sunny here so they will get a few field trips outside over the next week.
I do think it would of been better to sterilize the soil, inoculate, wait a few weeks, and then plant into the soil. They did seem a little sluggish post sprouting.
A second Selected Siberian has sprouted, as of this morning.
The Nanda Devi in the red solo cup seem to be doing well.
All things considered, I think they are doing well. They are in a basement that is around 61-65. They are on a heat mat to keep them a little warmer. They also have a humidity dome on them. I took them outside for 15 or so minutes today to let them get some real sunshine. It's going to be warm and sunny here so they will get a few field trips outside over the next week.
I do think it would of been better to sterilize the soil, inoculate, wait a few weeks, and then plant into the soil. They did seem a little sluggish post sprouting.
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Thanks!
I am excited too.
The Selected Siberian are autos and I will be growing them on my deck and bringing them inside on cold nights. I have grown a few autos from Flash seeds(Blue Himalaya and Strawberry Jam, maybe one or two more...) and I am curious mess around with them.... I am hoping to get a male and female, make some seeds, and then have a few hundred to try out. I think they will be good for window sills and scattered around my garden outdoor.... if nothing else they can provide some pollen for the bees and also some seeds for the wildlife to eat.
The Nanda Devi will likely be grown behind my garage all year. I am going to baby them in pots until I know the probability of frost is low.
Also, Kwik is a great place to try new things! 25 seeds for around 21 dollars once you convert fro Euros..... I've got about 10 other things from them in queue at the moment.
Selected Siberian - Kwik Seeds - Wild-Type Cannabis Seeds
Selected ultra-hardy autofloweing Siberian strain collected from wild-type feral populations in Siberia, a.k.a. 'Ruderalis'
kwikseeds.com
Nanda Devi - Kwik Seeds - Landrace Seeds - The Real Seed Company
Nanda Devi landrace strain cannabis seeds sourced direct from the charas valleys of northern Kumaon Himalaya by The Real Seed Company
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Dear Diary....
Well it seems that I have learned a few things while sprouting this batch of seeds.
The soil sterilization turned out to be a terrible idea. 190F for 2 hours seems to have made any problem worse and made it completely unusable.
Only two of the Siberian sprouted and when they did the roots only grew a few inches. There was no apparent tap root when I investigated what was going on.
In addition, I had sprinkled some clover seeds over the soil, as well as some containers that did not have the sterile soil. The non-sterile soil had full germination of the clover. Not one single clover seed germinated in the sterile soil.
8 days ago I started a new batch of the Nanda Devi, and I started another 10 this morning.
I will likely continue to companion plant some clover along with the cannabis seeds to help me identify any issues I may be having.
I will be back in a week or two for another update!
Well it seems that I have learned a few things while sprouting this batch of seeds.
The soil sterilization turned out to be a terrible idea. 190F for 2 hours seems to have made any problem worse and made it completely unusable.
Only two of the Siberian sprouted and when they did the roots only grew a few inches. There was no apparent tap root when I investigated what was going on.
In addition, I had sprinkled some clover seeds over the soil, as well as some containers that did not have the sterile soil. The non-sterile soil had full germination of the clover. Not one single clover seed germinated in the sterile soil.
8 days ago I started a new batch of the Nanda Devi, and I started another 10 this morning.
I will likely continue to companion plant some clover along with the cannabis seeds to help me identify any issues I may be having.
I will be back in a week or two for another update!
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Dear Diary,
It has been 20 days(as of taking these photos) since germination of the Nanda Devi seeds, and they are still emerging . These are easily the slowest germinating seeds I've ever grown. Even after they sprout they are very very slow growing. I don't think I can correlate their growth to any environmental factors this time. I also sprouted a bag seed(made in the past 2 years so I know its fresh and vigorous) and it's growing well and does not seem to have it's growth impeded by anything. Maybe it's a actually a blessing. Where I am on the globe I really shouldn't take anything outside until May 1st to make sure its not killed by the frost.
It has been 20 days(as of taking these photos) since germination of the Nanda Devi seeds, and they are still emerging . These are easily the slowest germinating seeds I've ever grown. Even after they sprout they are very very slow growing. I don't think I can correlate their growth to any environmental factors this time. I also sprouted a bag seed(made in the past 2 years so I know its fresh and vigorous) and it's growing well and does not seem to have it's growth impeded by anything. Maybe it's a actually a blessing. Where I am on the globe I really shouldn't take anything outside until May 1st to make sure its not killed by the frost.
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Dear Diary,
It has been 8 days of new growth on the Nanda Devi. They are a slow grower. They seem to have gotten established enough that I needed to up-pot them into 1 gallon containers. I currently have a total of 5 sprouted and I have culled the rest that had not sprouted. I had one sprout at about day 30 from planting(not the one from the previous post) but it lacked enough vigor to jettison it's seed shell. They seemed to have perked up after I left them outside overnight. It was in the mid to low 50s.... I did not cold stratify the ND, and the last sprout came up the morning after the cold exposure.... I have never included a cold stratification in my germination protocol, however the next time I sprout these I will likely place them in the freezer for at minimum 24 hours and see if that helps the very low germination rate(I think I was less than 30% with the ones I tried out.) They are from the Himalayan Mountains so it makes sense they might be expecting cold.
About a week -- or so -- ago I also germinated 30ish seeds in little solo cups. These germinated with an 80% percent rate. They are an F2 of a TGA Plushberry(female) and Gypy's Luang Prang Bao Laos(Male) that was sold on seedbay a while ago. the Laos male was a complete herm.... it was a full male until and started shooting white hairs everywhere. It was around the same time that the pollen sacs opened. I made 5-7 crosses with it.
The most mature plant is 1/2 Plushberry 1/3 Laos, and 1/6 Ace Malawi(fruit pheno). I documanted it on the last post.
1. Plushberry x Laos F2 seedlings
2. Nanda Devi before transplant
3. a picture of the two together showing how little stretch the Nanda Devi have. The ND are about half the height I would expect from a seedling. Absoltely no stretch. It's already making leaves with 7 leaflets and the entire plant isn't even 3 inches from the soil.
4. ND after transplant. They do not look very happy in this picture.
5. PL F2 seedlings I transplanted to the backside of my house. They will get lots of morning sun and full shade in the afternoon.
6. A closeup shot. I did 3 seeds per solo cup... If they all survive I will likely cull the less vigorous ones.
7. The large PL x Malawi Laos I transplanted by the fenceline at another place on my property. It will get direct sunlight only through the fence slats but it will be continuous throuughout the day.
It has been 8 days of new growth on the Nanda Devi. They are a slow grower. They seem to have gotten established enough that I needed to up-pot them into 1 gallon containers. I currently have a total of 5 sprouted and I have culled the rest that had not sprouted. I had one sprout at about day 30 from planting(not the one from the previous post) but it lacked enough vigor to jettison it's seed shell. They seemed to have perked up after I left them outside overnight. It was in the mid to low 50s.... I did not cold stratify the ND, and the last sprout came up the morning after the cold exposure.... I have never included a cold stratification in my germination protocol, however the next time I sprout these I will likely place them in the freezer for at minimum 24 hours and see if that helps the very low germination rate(I think I was less than 30% with the ones I tried out.) They are from the Himalayan Mountains so it makes sense they might be expecting cold.
About a week -- or so -- ago I also germinated 30ish seeds in little solo cups. These germinated with an 80% percent rate. They are an F2 of a TGA Plushberry(female) and Gypy's Luang Prang Bao Laos(Male) that was sold on seedbay a while ago. the Laos male was a complete herm.... it was a full male until and started shooting white hairs everywhere. It was around the same time that the pollen sacs opened. I made 5-7 crosses with it.
The most mature plant is 1/2 Plushberry 1/3 Laos, and 1/6 Ace Malawi(fruit pheno). I documanted it on the last post.
1. Plushberry x Laos F2 seedlings
2. Nanda Devi before transplant
3. a picture of the two together showing how little stretch the Nanda Devi have. The ND are about half the height I would expect from a seedling. Absoltely no stretch. It's already making leaves with 7 leaflets and the entire plant isn't even 3 inches from the soil.
4. ND after transplant. They do not look very happy in this picture.
5. PL F2 seedlings I transplanted to the backside of my house. They will get lots of morning sun and full shade in the afternoon.
6. A closeup shot. I did 3 seeds per solo cup... If they all survive I will likely cull the less vigorous ones.
7. The large PL x Malawi Laos I transplanted by the fenceline at another place on my property. It will get direct sunlight only through the fence slats but it will be continuous throuughout the day.
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Dear Diary,
It has been about 2 weeks since the last update. Things are looking good.
1 & 2 - Nanda Devi pre-transplant. I would have liked to get them in the ground 3-5 earlier but it rained all last week, so yesterday was the first dry and sunny day.
3 - Post transplant behind the garage. I dug out a 2-3 gallon hole for each and then filled in the rest of the space with some good potting soil. The native ground is high in clay. Each shovelful had worms in it, so it seems to be healthy enough.
4 - This lady has been in-ground for over 2 weeks now. It's gained another 1/3 of its height and the interior branches are filling out nicely. This spot gets much more afternoon sun than I was expecting. It should still do quite well in this spot.
5 - This morning all of the Nanda Devi seem to have bounced back from their transplant and seem perky and happy.
It has been about 2 weeks since the last update. Things are looking good.
1 & 2 - Nanda Devi pre-transplant. I would have liked to get them in the ground 3-5 earlier but it rained all last week, so yesterday was the first dry and sunny day.
3 - Post transplant behind the garage. I dug out a 2-3 gallon hole for each and then filled in the rest of the space with some good potting soil. The native ground is high in clay. Each shovelful had worms in it, so it seems to be healthy enough.
4 - This lady has been in-ground for over 2 weeks now. It's gained another 1/3 of its height and the interior branches are filling out nicely. This spot gets much more afternoon sun than I was expecting. It should still do quite well in this spot.
5 - This morning all of the Nanda Devi seem to have bounced back from their transplant and seem perky and happy.
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Dear Diary,
It's been about a month since my last entry and everything is looking good.
The Nanda Devi are about 4 feet tall now. Their leaves are massive. The stems seem to be very hollow and weak on the new growth. I snapped the one on the far left accidentally, which is why its so small in the pictures. For how weak the stems are, everything is nice and green, and is not showing any type of deficiency.
It seems that at least 2 are male and the other two are not showing yet.
The other plant, in the flower bed, is a little over 3 feet now, and seems to be in good shape. There is some yellowing on the older leaves. I have not fed it any nutrients and it has only received rain water.
I did mow down everything else growing in the bed. I then mulched with fresh grass clippings.
I do plan on culling the males eventually, I have some more seedlings in the basement to replace them which are about a week old(not pictured)
1 and 2 - Side view and front view of the Nanda Devi.
3 - Massive Nanda Devi leaf.
4 and 5 - Side and top view of the Plushberry hybrid.
It's been about a month since my last entry and everything is looking good.
The Nanda Devi are about 4 feet tall now. Their leaves are massive. The stems seem to be very hollow and weak on the new growth. I snapped the one on the far left accidentally, which is why its so small in the pictures. For how weak the stems are, everything is nice and green, and is not showing any type of deficiency.
It seems that at least 2 are male and the other two are not showing yet.
The other plant, in the flower bed, is a little over 3 feet now, and seems to be in good shape. There is some yellowing on the older leaves. I have not fed it any nutrients and it has only received rain water.
I did mow down everything else growing in the bed. I then mulched with fresh grass clippings.
I do plan on culling the males eventually, I have some more seedlings in the basement to replace them which are about a week old(not pictured)
1 and 2 - Side view and front view of the Nanda Devi.
3 - Massive Nanda Devi leaf.
4 and 5 - Side and top view of the Plushberry hybrid.
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Dear Diary,
It has been 19 days since my last update.
I have culled 2 of the 4 Nanda Devi due to them being male. I also severely cut back one female ND as it was growing right on top of another, and it had already been topped and beat up. Once the cool weather comes, and I order some more seeds, I will likely stock up on a lot of these seeds.
I scattered some chicken manure(chicken poo brand from Mendard's) around the base of all the plants. This is the first feeding I have given them. They have been surviving off only rainwater to this point.
1 - The best Nanda Devi female is about 6.5 feet tall now. The leaves are still coming out in massive proportions. I am really excited to see this one through.
2 - In place of the Male ND that I culled I planted 4 Malawi 2020 bagseed. They seem to be doing ok. I will eventually cull the males from this group as well.
3 - I planted 6 seeds that I made which are ((Black Cherry Soda X SpaceDawg)) X Seedsman Sugar Haze) I randomly threw the Sugar Haze pollen onto the female as the Black Cherry Soda really came though one female in the pack I grew.... and it was very unique and enjoyable. I have grown out 2 females from this batch of seed indoors and they have a similar scent. If I would like to get around to taking these to an F2 or F3 eventually.
4 - The fence lady is also a (Black Cherry Soda X SpaceDawg) which I thought was a Plushberry as I am somewhat confused by the individual who gave me the seeds. It's going well and there are no signs of deficiency.
It has been 19 days since my last update.
I have culled 2 of the 4 Nanda Devi due to them being male. I also severely cut back one female ND as it was growing right on top of another, and it had already been topped and beat up. Once the cool weather comes, and I order some more seeds, I will likely stock up on a lot of these seeds.
I scattered some chicken manure(chicken poo brand from Mendard's) around the base of all the plants. This is the first feeding I have given them. They have been surviving off only rainwater to this point.
1 - The best Nanda Devi female is about 6.5 feet tall now. The leaves are still coming out in massive proportions. I am really excited to see this one through.
2 - In place of the Male ND that I culled I planted 4 Malawi 2020 bagseed. They seem to be doing ok. I will eventually cull the males from this group as well.
3 - I planted 6 seeds that I made which are ((Black Cherry Soda X SpaceDawg)) X Seedsman Sugar Haze) I randomly threw the Sugar Haze pollen onto the female as the Black Cherry Soda really came though one female in the pack I grew.... and it was very unique and enjoyable. I have grown out 2 females from this batch of seed indoors and they have a similar scent. If I would like to get around to taking these to an F2 or F3 eventually.
4 - The fence lady is also a (Black Cherry Soda X SpaceDawg) which I thought was a Plushberry as I am somewhat confused by the individual who gave me the seeds. It's going well and there are no signs of deficiency.
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Everything looks awesome friend. You are doing a good job. I love how you use hay mulch to keep the roots moist and cool. I use a hand cultivator to aerate the topsoil around my plants. Aerating the soil will allow better water penetration and help the roots get plenty of environmental oxygen between waterings. I experimented once with aeration and found that aerated plants will outgrow plants that are not aerated every time. Plus it keeps the top dressing amendments soluble under the hay. Thanks for sharing.
One thing I did not document was doing exactly that.
My land is very clay dominant. There is not much organic matter on the top layer of the soil.
I have an old 55 gallon drum I use for this. The 'recipe' is 1 shovel full of earth from the spot I am planting to 1 shovel full of coco coir. I then roll the drum around the yard to mix it all up, and then fill in the hole, and then transplant into it.
I had tried a few spots without doing this and they hardly grew it all. The dense clay definitely is not ideal to grow in.
Everything looks awesome friend. You are doing a good job. I love how you use hay mulch to keep the roots moist and cool. I use a hand cultivator to aerate the topsoil around my plants. Aerating the soil will allow better water penetration and help the roots get plenty of environmental oxygen between waterings. I experimented once with aeration and found that aerated plants will outgrow plants that are not aerated every time. Plus it keeps the top dressing amendments soluble under the hay. Thanks for sharing.
When I grew in clay I amended it with peat moss and it kicked ass.
Dear Diary,
It has been 17 days since my last update.
I culled one more of the Nanda Devi. It didn't want to stay vertical. It was also crowding healthier plants. So I culled it.
1 - I have a small gap between my fence and garage. I usually let wild things grow but I am going to clean it up and plant some seedlings.
2 - This is the same spot after I ran my compost mower through and also applied a layer of grass clippings as a mulch layer.
3 - These seedlings will be going into the cleaned out area. They were in solo cups 10-14 days too long so they are recovering. They were placed in one gallon containers 2 days ago.
4 - The back of the garage. From left to right.... the first is the topped ND. The second is the Best ND. Its over 8 feet and it looks healthy. The four on the right are the newest seedlings which are Malawi(discussed below).
5 - These are the 4 Malawi. They really like/tolerate the heat we have been having. They are just starting to show sex so I will have some of them culled in a week or so.
6 - This is the monster sized hybrid plant still going strong. The two next to it are the only females left from the 6 seeds I planted. The spacing turned out real in the bed.
I also mulched the flower beds again with fresh grass clippings. The last layer I applied has been helping keep everything cool during the heat.
It has been 17 days since my last update.
I culled one more of the Nanda Devi. It didn't want to stay vertical. It was also crowding healthier plants. So I culled it.
1 - I have a small gap between my fence and garage. I usually let wild things grow but I am going to clean it up and plant some seedlings.
2 - This is the same spot after I ran my compost mower through and also applied a layer of grass clippings as a mulch layer.
3 - These seedlings will be going into the cleaned out area. They were in solo cups 10-14 days too long so they are recovering. They were placed in one gallon containers 2 days ago.
4 - The back of the garage. From left to right.... the first is the topped ND. The second is the Best ND. Its over 8 feet and it looks healthy. The four on the right are the newest seedlings which are Malawi(discussed below).
5 - These are the 4 Malawi. They really like/tolerate the heat we have been having. They are just starting to show sex so I will have some of them culled in a week or so.
6 - This is the monster sized hybrid plant still going strong. The two next to it are the only females left from the 6 seeds I planted. The spacing turned out real in the bed.
I also mulched the flower beds again with fresh grass clippings. The last layer I applied has been helping keep everything cool during the heat.
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This is a good thread friend. I like to watch motivated people work in the garden because I learn a lot from them. I love home grows where people use Mother Nature. You are doing a good job.
Outdoor plants have to have a minimum of 6 hr of direct Sunlight to produce a yield. Six-hour Sun yields are small compared to 10-hour Sun exposure yields. The area between the fence and the building may not have enough direct Sunlight for well-formed flowers in the end. I am very interested in seeing how it turns out for you and if you can make it work. Thanks again for sharing your work with us.
Dear Diary,
It has been 17 days since my last update.
Everything is growing well. The garden experienced about 3 weeks of zero water or rain until a decent amount of rain fell this week. Everything seems very happy to be saturated again. I did end up watering the small Malawi as it was the only one experiencing drought issues. Everything else was able to pull through without an issue.
Fortunately this side of the garage is facing directly south so it recieves lots of mid-day and afternoon sun. I do think that this will be an issue for the Malawi as it only has morning sun and is currently being shaded by the enormous Nanda Devi. I did chop a few side branches from the ND to allow more light to the Malawi.
I will likely add another layer of green mulch(grass clippings) within a week or so. It does seem to help with moisture retention and keeps the soil cool. It also seems to compost down relatively quickly so it is acting as a fertilizer source as well.
1 - The backside of the garage. I chopped all but one of the Malawi. I did water this little lady a bit during the drought to keep her alive. She seems to be dealing with the hot temps very well.... Her soil was bone dry and was not showing any symptoms of stress but I did water as a precaution.
2 - The massive Nanda Devi is now taller than the garage. I measured the peak of the garage and it was around 11.5 feet. This is by far the tallest plant I have ever grown. It looks healthy. There are a few lower leaves that are turning color and dropping.... I don't know if this is a defeciency or the leaves are just not getting any sun so they are falling.... I am leaning towards giving this lady a few bags of compost before flowering sets to let her reach her potential.
3 - The three ladies by the fence line are doing well. I will likely do some heavy pruning on these ladies soon as a courtesy to my neighbors and do my best to keep them on my side of the fence line.
4 - The little ladies that spent too much time in solo cups finally were transplanted on the south side of the garage. I waited for the rain to come through as the ground was pretty dry and I didn't think it was a good idea to transplant into bone dry ground. I transplanted these about 3 days ago and they seem to have taken well.
5 - This lady is growing next to my Mexican sunflower in a -- I believe -- a 30 gallon fabric pot. The sunflower started blooming on the 1st and I saw my first humming bird on the 4th. Mexican sunflowers are my second favorite plant to grow.
It has been 17 days since my last update.
Everything is growing well. The garden experienced about 3 weeks of zero water or rain until a decent amount of rain fell this week. Everything seems very happy to be saturated again. I did end up watering the small Malawi as it was the only one experiencing drought issues. Everything else was able to pull through without an issue.
Fortunately this side of the garage is facing directly south so it recieves lots of mid-day and afternoon sun. I do think that this will be an issue for the Malawi as it only has morning sun and is currently being shaded by the enormous Nanda Devi. I did chop a few side branches from the ND to allow more light to the Malawi.
I will likely add another layer of green mulch(grass clippings) within a week or so. It does seem to help with moisture retention and keeps the soil cool. It also seems to compost down relatively quickly so it is acting as a fertilizer source as well.
1 - The backside of the garage. I chopped all but one of the Malawi. I did water this little lady a bit during the drought to keep her alive. She seems to be dealing with the hot temps very well.... Her soil was bone dry and was not showing any symptoms of stress but I did water as a precaution.
2 - The massive Nanda Devi is now taller than the garage. I measured the peak of the garage and it was around 11.5 feet. This is by far the tallest plant I have ever grown. It looks healthy. There are a few lower leaves that are turning color and dropping.... I don't know if this is a defeciency or the leaves are just not getting any sun so they are falling.... I am leaning towards giving this lady a few bags of compost before flowering sets to let her reach her potential.
3 - The three ladies by the fence line are doing well. I will likely do some heavy pruning on these ladies soon as a courtesy to my neighbors and do my best to keep them on my side of the fence line.
4 - The little ladies that spent too much time in solo cups finally were transplanted on the south side of the garage. I waited for the rain to come through as the ground was pretty dry and I didn't think it was a good idea to transplant into bone dry ground. I transplanted these about 3 days ago and they seem to have taken well.
5 - This lady is growing next to my Mexican sunflower in a -- I believe -- a 30 gallon fabric pot. The sunflower started blooming on the 1st and I saw my first humming bird on the 4th. Mexican sunflowers are my second favorite plant to grow.
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Dear Diary,
It has been 30 days since my last update.
Overall things seem to be going extremely well.
I am going to place images inline this post instead of attaching them. Hopefully it goes well.
I started some more seedlings. 17 are PCK hybrids and the other 3 are a sativa cross.
The plant sharing a 30 gallon with a Mexican Sunflower prays all day long. It seems very healthy.
The Pakistani behind the garage are going well. I have topped them twice now. These are the before and after photos I took this afternoon.
The Malawi is looking well.
The Nanda Devi is an absolute monter. Its somewhere between 14 and 15 feet at the moment. The lower side branches are breaking off as they are growing to 8+ feet. I am going to let it go and see how big she will get.
This is the view from my back deck.
I also have been growing two autos. I burned one with too many dry ammendments a few days ago but the other seems to be OK. The survivor is about 5 weeks from seed and has 5 or more weeks left.
It has been 30 days since my last update.
Overall things seem to be going extremely well.
I am going to place images inline this post instead of attaching them. Hopefully it goes well.
I started some more seedlings. 17 are PCK hybrids and the other 3 are a sativa cross.
The plant sharing a 30 gallon with a Mexican Sunflower prays all day long. It seems very healthy.
The Pakistani behind the garage are going well. I have topped them twice now. These are the before and after photos I took this afternoon.
The Malawi is looking well.
The Nanda Devi is an absolute monter. Its somewhere between 14 and 15 feet at the moment. The lower side branches are breaking off as they are growing to 8+ feet. I am going to let it go and see how big she will get.
This is the view from my back deck.
I also have been growing two autos. I burned one with too many dry ammendments a few days ago but the other seems to be OK. The survivor is about 5 weeks from seed and has 5 or more weeks left.
