8th Week.. Buds dont smell

[compost]

Just mist them with water(greencure if needed) and that should let you know where you stand on smell.

 

[Herborizer]

My clones smell!!! I would bet its genetics.

 

[greenops]

be careful when you dry this time, not saying that was the problem last time. but this time you will be drying in winter, where even though the temperature is lower, the humidity will be much lower than in the summer. plants dry really fast in winter, you want to dry your plants in 50-55% humidity (a little lower is ok.) winter time humidity can drop to zero.

just throwing a new problem at you. drying is very different from one crop to another unless you can control humidity.

Thanks for the tip. I was wondering if the dry climate would play a bigger role than the drop in temperature. I'm planning to hang the whole plant to slow down drying.

 

[greenops]

Does anyone have an idea how to remove clorophyll from the plant?
Is clorophyll being processed at a constant rate after the chop, or do the buds have to be drying in a certain temp and humidity range?

 

[funker]

doing a watercure will remove the cholorophyll from a plant. The bud will not really taste or smell like much afterward and it will look kind of brownish but the active ingredients won't be affected and the smoke is smooth. MPD was really into the watercure back in the day.

 

[señorsloth]

don't know if anybody has mentioned it but a lot of strains don't smell much at 8 weeks, for a good full bodied stone ive never seen a plant that wasn't more potent and stinky at 10-12 weeks over 8, in fact, ive never seen a strain that was truelly 25-50% amber before week 10, and imo, thats the point when it's at it's peak potency and peak SMELL/taste!i have a chemdog ibl pheno that really reaks something crazy but not till week 10-12, at week 8 it smells like leaves...

 

[greenops]

I'm following the perfect cure tutorial here and my buds have been in the curing zone for 2 weeks now.
They dont smell like plant or hay. The only scent that is left is just very mild and simple sweet/hashy odor, but not intensive at all, its just a tiny slice from the terpenes spectrum.
And that scent that is left in the buds now is how the buds smelled during late flowering also. Really low odor, almost non existent.

So I dont think drying and curing is my problem, and I also dont think that genetics is the problem because this is my 2nd indoor run, the 3rd strain i tried and still the same thing happened...

I went to check on my friends grow the other day. I gave him some Blueberry Gum plants which i have vegged for a month at my place. The BBGs are just 4 weeks into flowering and i'm surprised how crazy intense they already smell! None of the plants i ever grew in my cabinet came close to how his BBGs smell. And he doesnt even take care of them lol

He grows under the same temps and humidity.
The main difference between his and my setup is the following:

My friend: 600w hps & generic reflector, 3ft x 3ft commercial grow tent, he gets air from the outside of his home directly in to his grow tent, and is able to exhaust the air directly out of his window.

My setup: 250w hps air cooled hood, 2 x 3 cabinet, passive air intake from inside the room, exhaust in the room... window is cracked open most of the time.

To me the only factors that remain are:

1. lights - I read in another thread here that light intensity may suppress the terpens? Or does lack of lumen play a role since i'm using an air cooled hood?
2. the material of my cabinet - normal cabinet out of wood
3. air quality - no direct fresh air, i only have my window slightly open
4. negative pressure inside the cabinet - i have 3 slits in the bottom of the cabinet for passive intake (approx 1'' x 12'')

 

[spunion]

Possibly not enough air circulation? Also if the plants get large enough and go into tree mode it seems like you lose the best representation of all the terpenes in the genetic profile of a strain.

 

[Bluenote]

How much sulfur content is in your nutrient profile? Try going up on the molasses or maybe add something such as Botanicare's Sweet if you want to spend bucks , or just add some Epsom Salts if you're a cheap bastard like I am.

And not to start the old "damage your plants or dont' for max flavor and aroma" arguement , but take a gander at this , pay attention to what they're stating about terpene production in cotton as a response to abuse.......


http://www.skunkskool.com/archive/index.php/t-8781.html

http://www.hempfood.com/iha/iha01201.html

 

[SeaMaiden]

If these buds smoke dank, then I think a thread specific to non-stinky strains would be good for those folks whose ability to cultivate is being legislated away on a local level, ostensibly often due to smell complaints.

Seriously. It doesn't have to smell a lot for me, I just want it to smoke well.

 

[greenops]

Possibly not enough air circulation? Also if the plants get large enough and go into tree mode it seems like you lose the best representation of all the terpenes in the genetic profile of a strain.

How do i increase air circulation? bigger intake holes?
Sorry I dont get the last sentence.. can u dumb that down for me?

How much sulfur content is in your nutrient profile? Try going up on the molasses or maybe add something such as Botanicare's Sweet if you want to spend bucks , or just add some Epsom Salts if you're a cheap bastard like I am.

And not to start the old "damage your plants or dont' for max flavor and aroma" arguement , but take a gander at this , pay attention to what they're stating about terpene production in cotton as a response to abuse.......


http://www.skunkskool.com/archive/index.php/t-8781.html

http://www.hempfood.com/iha/iha01201.html

I'm not sure regarding sulfur content. i heard it helps with developing smell. I'm using Plagron Nute line, and my friend who has got these dank smelling plants uses the same. I'm also using molasses starting about week 5.
DAAAMN i'm slow today... ive never heard of that argument and i googled terpense production in cotton, couldnt any info.

 

[Bluenote]

If these buds smoke dank, then I think a thread specific to non-stinky strains would be good for those folks whose ability to cultivate is being legislated away on a local level, ostensibly often due to smell complaints.

Seriously. It doesn't have to smell a lot for me, I just want it to smoke well.

Pay attention to what she's saying folks , there's a reason that NL5 doesn't stink very much , and with the pendulum currently swinging back such things may well become crucial again.

To the O.P. , yes sulfur is inextricably connected with terpene and terpinoid production and aroma , along with of course taste , in addition ( and we've got a good thread going on this in the nutrient section , look for the thread on P affecting susceptibility to rots and molds and foliar applications of calcium and other micro-nutrients) there is some anecdotal evidence that just as with the stonefruits ,grapes etc.etc. weed is best harvested at maximum Brix levels for best taste and aroma. All this is of course on a theoretical level as regards cannabis at this time but there is very little reason to think that it doesn't cross-correlate from other branches of agriculture just as many other things do.

If we can eventually isolate what produces more of specific terpenes we can feed to accentuate that particular profile , simplistically speaking more Limonene would quite likely result in more citric aroma and lemon taste.

It might be interesting to take a look at the terpene profiles of known " flavor carriers" such as C99 , D.J.Shorts BB , Juicy Fruit Thai etc. , might lend some insight into the flavors and exactly how they're produced i.e. xx% pinene xx% limonene etc.etc.

An associated factor is how the individual terpenes manifest themselves to our senses , some will be more apparent to the olfactory senses , some through taste , some both to varying degrees.