'77 Maui F6

[oldhaole]

I lied...can't quite fade out yet....have to straighten this out.

Dank. Agreed. 5LG was straight up. My intention was not to impugn him or his reputation in any way. I'd happily volunteer to reintroduce that beautiful plant to the land of her "birth" any day. My reply was to a specific post cited.

Carry on.

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

Maui shmowie....I'm renaming her 'Goat Scout Cookies'.

 

[BrnCow]

Hard to believe that Mexican seeds sailed by small boat started all of this shit in Hi huh! Brotherhood of Eternal Love stuff...been plenty of satisfied customers since then...maybe many more if the breed survives. Looks like that religious purple stuff that is impossible to find....some of it looked like purple dirt weed but would blow your ass of into a hallucination trip for a few hours with just a few tokes. The only documentation about this is in the book Orange Sunshine...all about the BEL

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

A few shots from earlier in flower...

 

[theJointedOne]

safe to say theres a new "maui wowie cut"?'


safe to say yes..hahah cant wait to see her spread like fire...if flg chooses of course

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

She's gonna get spread around in due time and sharing will definitely be encouraged. I'd like to see her in gardens all over the country but for obvious reasons I just can't send her to everyone that wants a slice. There's only a handful of trusted IC'ers that I'm going to personally share her with so it's going to be up to them to get her out through their own trusted connections and so on and so on.

 

[SativaBreather]

she needs to get to the uk man!

 

[Cool Moe]

I hear what you guys are saying, all strains originate in somewhere-istan but at the same time I doubt that most Hawaiian growers in the 70's were ordering their seeds from Holland or buying them online. Most likely they were sharing quality seeds from localized strains of cannabis that had been grown outdoors successfully for years in their own corner of the world. The packages we got from Hawaii back then didn't have a strain name. We just called it Hawaiian. The smell and taste of the flowers was unmistakably unique to weed from Hawaii. Only thing I've had since the 70's that reminded me of it was a pheno of bc godbud, and sure enough one of the genetic components in that is Hawaiian indica. 30 years without it and immediately I still recognized the smell.

That doesn't make it a strain from the area, or a specific strain. If 10 strains brought in Hawaii back in the 70s, are still grown in Maui Waui and called Maui Waui, then, acclimated or not, Maui Waui can be anything grown there, in or out, even new stuff grown there for 5 or 10 years?? Probably...

Seems like there's no hawaii pure strain?? only hybrids from landraces brought in the 70s or later.

So even Shanti Baba's "Spice" hawaiian Sativa x Hawaiian Indica, could be anything from Columbian x Mexican x NL?? Or something else?? Who knows, But not a Hawaiian Sativa or Indica landrace, is there any of this?

 

[LAMBS-BREAD]

I hear what you guys are saying, all strains originate in somewhere-istan but at the same time I doubt that most Hawaiian growers in the 70's were ordering their seeds from Holland or buying them online. Most likely they were sharing quality seeds from localized strains of cannabis that had been grown outdoors successfully for years in their own corner of the world. The packages we got from Hawaii back then didn't have a strain name. We just called it Hawaiian. The smell and taste of the flowers was unmistakably unique to weed from Hawaii. Only thing I've had since the 70's that reminded me of it was a pheno of bc godbud, and sure enough one of the genetic components in that is Hawaiian indica. 30 years without it and immediately I still recognized the smell.

No one says they were buying them online?? Was internet in the 70s even working??

In the late 70s early 80s, seeds were available from banks based in Holland and from US breeders. High Time magazine had add from seed-co. They were a lot of breeders in the USA who crossed many landraces, were those the seeds grown in Hawaii by Cali surfers?? Hippies?? probably..

No one said there's no Hawaiian Strains. Rather not a specific Maui Waui strain, and no Hawaiian landraces. But u can find Hawaiian strains, just as Cali strains or Dutch strains, made out from foreign landraces and hybrids.

Good example is Kauai Electric:

I find this interesting that people still talk about the pot and its history, so here we go.
This is a true story about how we started to grow this pot on the Island of Kauai in 1975, my husband (deceased)is the founder of this strain of marijuana.
The first place that we grew this was in Hanalei Valley, the plant is a crossed between two strains one came form Jamaica called "Golden Voice" the other was from Thailand called "Elephant". In 1975 most farmers use chicken shit to fertilize the plant but it was so strong we decided that a cow base manure would be a new and safer way to bring the plant to maturity, this is how it got it's sweet taste.
When the first harvest came in we had no name for it, at that time such names as Kona Gold, Puna Butter, Maui Wowie, were all taken so we needed something short, plus, to put the Island that it was from (very important in 1975). I was standing in my kitchen looking at the mail when I pulled up my electric bill and up in the corner (return address) was the name Kauai Electric Company. I walk into the living room and said "I have the name, lets call it Kauai Electric" and the rest is history. I still have some seeds of the original plant if it ever goes legal you may see the true Kauai Electric. I hope you enjoyed the history!

 

[Critter]

Interesting discussion here and i to all the fellow brothers posting and sharing like the true gentlemen we are

On the topic: I dare to share my Opinion* gleaned from a plant i saw growing back in 97 labeled hawaiian skunk . Growing next to all the other skunks ,N/l, WW,maple leaf indica- she (HSkunk) had uniquely different fan leaves..very rubbery/shiney looking and huge and beefy, like the maple leaf on steroids but different if that makes sense, had a sweet floral fruity smell with a distinctly present skunk background iirc.
So I dare say yes it is possible that at some point there was a true land race Maui-waui. Outcrossed to others and referred to simply as hawaiian? ie Skunk crossed with the original maui makes hawaiian skunk? Back then people changed stuff to what they knew. Nobody at first knew what Maui was but when asked told it's from hawaii, the simplification then continued till the maui was lost in the current gene pool.???(<speculation)
Who knows??? Really would like to see some old head pop up in his late 80's and set all us kiddies straight.
Kinda makes you wonder where all the heads went (systematically hunted down?)lol
OK dont mind me...moving along

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

More Maui Info

More Maui Info

So after a little research I'm starting to think my '77 Maui MIGHT be related to Mr. Greengene's Cherry Bomb. I've got some of his CB in flower and they are nearly identical to the 3 outta 4 of the '77 Maui's. The descriptions I've read of CB sound pretty similar to what I'm seeing with the '77 Maui f6's also.

Here's a quote from Mr. Greengenes regarding his thoughts on Maui Waui from Sept. 21, 2010:

My guess on the origin of the Maui Wowee that CB came from is that it was originally a pure sativa by way of Thailand and possibly crossed with an indica while in Hawaii. In the first generation, there were only two females, but some five or more males. All of CB is down from one of those females. I regret that I gave the all of the seeds of her sister to a friend who lost the line. That was back when I didn't know better. The sister was smaller, lower yielding, but with honey sweet oily resin that was quite 'Thai-ish'. Now I wish I'd kept her in the mix because, though she might have been a tad less potent, she had a sweeter more fruity smell and taste. The main CB female was also quite 'Thai-ish' and had a strong cherry lifesaver taste with a metallic finish and oily resin (the kind that creeps up the doobie and turns the paper brown). The kind of Thai weed I'm referring to is not the kind we used to get on sticks, but the very gourmet 'chocolate thai' of the early-mid seventies. Cherry Bomb still reminds me, and others who've smoked it, of that chocolate thai. Other smells and tastes sometimes associated with CB are coffee and tobacco. Due to my some times too ruthless selections, CB has got a bit more potent over the years, which may possibly mask some of the more subtle flavors and smells. I've noticed that there's a relationship between the red stems and petiols and the fruity metallic tastes, and also that those tastes are easier to detect in less potent plants.

Anyway, it's really great that CB is finally getting out in it's pure form and being grown by such conspicuously successful master growers as Verdant Green. I made the decision to spread CB as far and wide as I could back in '04 but made mistakes along the way. Now, with the ICMAG server fund I'm finally seeing my wish come true! It's a happy day for Mr. Greengenes.

and here's a few threads about Cherry Bomb for anyone interested:
Mr. Greengene's Cherry Bomb
Mr. Greengene's Cherry Bomb smoke report
Cherry Bomb Seeds

'77 Maui f6 @ 33 days 12/12

 

[LAMBS-BREAD]

Interesting discussion here and i to all the fellow brothers posting and sharing like the true gentlemen we are

On the topic: I dare to share my Opinion* gleaned from a plant i saw growing back in 97 labeled hawaiian skunk . Growing next to all the other skunks ,N/l, WW,maple leaf indica- she (HSkunk) had uniquely different fan leaves..very rubbery/shiney looking and huge and beefy, like the maple leaf on steroids but different if that makes sense, had a sweet floral fruity smell with a distinctly present skunk background iirc.
So I dare say yes it is possible that at some point there was a true land race Maui-waui. Outcrossed to others and referred to simply as hawaiian? ie Skunk crossed with the original maui makes hawaiian skunk? Back then people changed stuff to what they knew. Nobody at first knew what Maui was but when asked told it's from hawaii, the simplification then continued till the maui was lost in the current gene pool.???(<speculation)
Who knows??? Really would like to see some old head pop up in his late 80's and set all us kiddies straight.
Kinda makes you wonder where all the heads went (systematically hunted down?)lol
OK dont mind me...moving along

A pure "landrace" is a strain of cannabis that was kept pure naturally for a hundreds of years. Meaning the landrace grow wildly in the land, and breed it self over and over for years and years, with out man involving in the breeding or growing. The strain show little to no variation. The landraces are 100% indica or 100% sativa, with a very few exceptions.

Their's no such thing in Hawaii. I think, probably, cannabis was introduce in Hawaiians Ilands, in the 60's, by people from south California, involve in surf and music.

So after a little research I'm starting to think my '77 Maui MIGHT be related to Mr. Greengene's Cherry Bomb. I've got some of his CB in flower and they are nearly identical to the 3 outta 4 of the '77 Maui's. The descriptions I've read of CB sound pretty similar to what I'm seeing with the '77 Maui f6's also.

Awesome infos bro, seems like u find a special Cherry Bomb gal out of those magic beans, big up and enjoy her

 

[Critter]

Yep LambsBread you are correct im sure...
But who knows maybe a island had a hawiian indica that was a pure "landrace"(i am well aware of what Landrace means) and kept it hidden from all the Haolies. How do we know that the variations of weed brought over by surfers in the 40's was the first time cannibis to hit the islands dirt? Speculation i know but its fun to think about...

Time to read up on my hawaiian history...and there was cannabis long before written history i beleive (unless aliens brought it )
so all things are possible imo but it does seem like a true landrace maui is impossible.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

What a great find! 10+ year old hidden treasure.
Thank you for sharing!

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

Anyone have experience with Mr. G's Cherry Bomb?

 

[Critter]

Not Mr.G's Cherry but im bout to run some MTg Cherry Bomb, which is supposedly a heirloom ibl? Thats bout all i know of that one though so far. Maybe its from DrG's stock...ill look around an see.

 

[Heavy]

Awesome How long she take to finish?

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

Awesome How long she take to finish?

10-11 weeks.

 

[dank.frank]

Talk to VerdantGreen about CherryBomb - I know he sorted some of that same stock from Mr. Gg - ALTHOUGH, they might have been F2's. And then, I'm sure he could tell you where those came from...



dank.Frank

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

Yeah, I saw VG had a CB thread.

I'll have some dry Maui pics to post up in a couple days.