600w versus 1000w

[Lucid]

brainthor... im just playing .... but for real tho ... i know 600's are more then capeable .... but if you were in a race would u rather be in the car with 600hp or 1000hp


i know apples and oranges but ya know ...

 

[New Holland]

Just my 10 cents, I use 2 X 600's per shade for 9 shades. I have one MH Retro and 1 Hps. I find this gives me nice compact solid buds. I achieve 0.92 gpw without Co2 this way. Plus the 600's don't produce the same amount of heat that 9 1k's do.

 

[Guest]

I've used my 1K's to flower both an 8 by 8 roomful of 2-3 ft flowering plants in 2 gal nursery containers and 4-6 ft plants finishing in 3 gal pots and the larger plants put me just a skosh from 2 lbs per 1K,the smaller plants though more plentiful didnt come close.Growing smallish plants in soil containers wasn't a good idea for me.

 

[george j warner]

600 watters get more lumens per watt than 1000watters ....but obviously a 1000 watter will preform better ...

so if you had a situation where you had to have 2000 watt of light 3 600's would be better than 2 1000watters

hope this helps

 

[george j warner]

arrr but have you guys concidered digital 600's ? 5% lees lumen output than a 1000watter with only 450 actual watts used : ) .... lumatek ballasts !

that will rack ya brains ..... enough lumens for you non-pussies and half the electricity bill : ).... yes fucking please r:

 

[coolx]

^^^ 450 actual watts? no way - it's still 620 W with yes, almost the same lumens as the 1000 magnetic coil ballast. Check this page:

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/static/articles/0506_digiballasts.asp

 

[Andyo]

more lamps availble for 1000 w mh .
although you can mix and match lamps with 600 easier cos of multiple lights a 600 mh 7k and a son e in 1 shade does work very well .but then hydrofarms ms 1000 gold mh is perfection especially on pure sativas.more par watts than you can shake a stem at.
And worrying about a couple of hundred dollars on electric bill isnt logical cos the increased return is worth more .

 

[smurfin'herb]

^^^ 450 actual watts? no way - it's still 620 W with yes, almost the same lumens as the 1000 magnetic coil ballast. Check this page:

http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/static/articles/0506_digiballasts.asp

Ok,the initial charge up is 620 watts, then after a bit it "chills out" and hangs around 450. :wink:

 

[smurfin'herb]

I've used my 1K's to flower both an 8 by 8 roomful of 2-3 ft flowering plants in 2 gal nursery containers and 4-6 ft plants finishing in 3 gal pots and the larger plants put me just a skosh from 2 lbs per 1K,the smaller plants though more plentiful didnt come close.Growing smallish plants in soil containers wasn't a good idea for me.

Thats bcuzz you need more aeration in your media and co2. Try using coco on a drip (but read up on it first). I always get at least 20 oz. average per 600watt (lumatek digital). Hell, last run i got 23.72oz average, and 26.2 oz came from a 3x4 area with one 600watt overhead!, (which was included in the overall average).

 

[george j warner]

thats a nice thought ... atm im building a grow room gona have 2 x air cooled lumatek 600's over 32 x 3ft big buds on a clay ball oxy drip system ...with co2 injection up to about 1000/1500ppm

space of 1m deep x 2.4m wide x 2.4m high

carbon filtered plus a ozone genny : )
canna nutes !


yeild? fuck knows if its more than 1.2/1.5 i'll be happy

will start a new thread when i got more pics
laterz

 

[george j warner]

oh the grow area is only 1m x 2m x 2.1

at the moment an outdoor crop will go inside for flowering as the weather is shit ... under a 1000watter and no system pic of plants gona use below.. the big one has been pinched and bent its all cool : )

 

[george j warner]

coolx that link you posted under all the charts in the first paragraph on the 600watt lumatek.. it says the tests was done with a hortilux bulb.... i thought lumatek ballasts cant ignite a hortilux ?

 

[george j warner]

sorry for doing post after post but the paragraph under the 600watt lumatek ... the 600 galaxy it says the bulb (hortilux) went out after 2 minutes first time ... well this explains that the bulb they used wasnt a fair test therfore the info on both the 600's are wrong?

they should have used a bulb for each light from the same company like osram ... then you have a even experiment ... using different bulbs and comparing ballasts is stupid
lol

laterz

 

[coolx]

Ok,the initial charge up is 620 watts, then after a bit it "chills out" and hangs around 450. :wink:

really? is that from your own measurements or from that page I linked to? - which now doesn't work anymore - it seems bg are reorganizing their site today. I got the 750's - maybe I should get a meter and measure the power (unless you know that). They better run at around 600W then or that page sucks as the 600's would then be far more efficient.

sorry for doing post after post but the paragraph under the 600watt lumatek ... the 600 galaxy it says the bulb (hortilux) went out after 2 minutes first time ... well this explains that the bulb they used wasnt a fair test therfore the info on both the 600's are wrong?

they should have used a bulb for each light from the same company like osram ... then you have a even experiment ... using different bulbs and comparing ballasts is stupid

Like I said, the link doesn't work anymore ... but I have the page saved ..... somewhere! The last time I read the page completely was a year ago, when I was researching ballasts.

 

[smurfin'herb]

Ya man,i didnt measure it personally, but i read somewhere a few months ago that they start up higher than rated and then go down a decent amount. Im pretty sure it was a sparky that measured it, and it was lumatek specifically. I think he said the 600s went down to 450, but im only about 80% sure on that # cuz it was a quick read.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

i think 1000's are more suited for tall plants but generate more heat.
but then again an arsenal of 600's would do just as good as a smaller number of 1000's
i think you can get the plants alot closer to a 600 then a 1000 600's will cover a SOG way better then 1000's IMO
digi 600's r cool running and save alot of power my bill loves 600's

par watts are usualy 1/3 of actual voltage so 600=200 and 1000 =333so thats only a small margin of diff.

its a matter of the grow and area being coverd, taking into consideration hight width and plant growing style.

more 600's mean more hoods and vents but thats par for the course.

 

[irie-i]

i'm a huge pussy.
i changed my 6 1000's for 9 600's two years ago. a few reasons:
total less amperage
total less wattage drawn (and paid for)
thus higher efficiency

and one thing that hasnt been mentioned so far is MORE SHARED LIGHT. a table with 3X600W will have 2 zones of overlapping light. that is light will come to plants from both sides. whereas a table with only 2x1000w will only have one shared zone.

one for one though, 1000w is better if you have space and can cool it. but 3 600's is way better than 2 1000's

 

[smurfin'herb]

couldnt agree more man!

 

[Guest]

Exactly true!!

The spread of 2 beams is way better i use 600!!
BUT,i will say that a 1000w bulb can produce at late
flower stage more foxtail buds going to an extreme end!!
Althought i have grown mega tight resinus buds with very
very low lumens using CFL's haha check deep in the flouro forum....
(1200 total lumens) and the shit blue away some folks hydro!!!!
Another story..

Good thread quite a toss up??

 

[irie-i]

and i forgot to mention 600w lamps can be set closer to the plants, thus more penetration.