600 W closet

[iliketogrow2]

heres the deal

big closet, 6' wide. 2.5' deep 7' tall

i wanna put in a 600W HPS, with a remote ballast, a 300CFM vortex fan, and grow approx. ten plants.

any suggestions on light proofing the closet, installing an effective exhausting system or how to effectivly hang the 1 lamp.

also i have some concerns about heat, cool tube needed? and space 10 plants alright for 600W? it'd probably be a 10 plant scrog or sea of green as i have a clone/mother cabinet in a different apartment

 

[iliketogrow2]

i think a better way to phrase my question is.

how can i use my veg chamber, and big closet to provide enough pot for 4 everyday smokers? the equipment described above is just my suggestion. budget is negotiable.

my goal yield 2lbs every harvest.

 

[SEEDYNONO]

well start out by setting a more realistic goal for this setup.

it will be very hard to get anywhere close to 2 lbs with 1 600w light. if i wanted to guarantee that yield i'd probably run at least 4 600 watters. with 2 lamps you may be able to pull it off but it'd take a heavy yielding variety.

best bet for this kind of a grow is to get everything set up for a dialed environment and have no expectations on a yield. having expectations on yields is probably my #1 peev about new growers because they can really be all over the place when you look at all the factors. its easy to read about growing online and say 1gpw is my goal here is all this equiptment here is this great strain here are these great containers and nutes and fans, etc.. but when you actually run your first grow you realize just how misleading these expectations can be. i would expect problems with my first grow even if you have a theoretical perfect setup.

but yeah as far as light proofing and installing stuff best get on the search function and check out all the great threads people have posted on how they did their setups.

no offense but its really noobish to come asking how to hang a lamp.. so i'll let ya do some homework and rethinking and i'll be lurking if you need some help down the road.

 

[Sauce]

2 lbs with a 600w is probably not going to happen. If you had a 1000w and a good grow then you may be able to get 2 lbs. A 1000w might work in there but it will be hard to cool. 300cfm may work but personally I'd get a bigger fan, like Vortex 6" (449cfm) or something similar. The bigger the better.

If you are trying to put a veg chamber in there too then consider a cab for vegging to keep light cycles separated. An air cooled hood (or cool tube) would greatly help with cooling. You can use weather stripping and poly to block light.

Also I agree with Seedy, run a search on this. There are tons of threads on setups and how to properly setup a grow. Resources are at your hands. Both links in my sig have tons of good info. I recommend checking out the GrowFAQs.

 

[Guest]

Hang the lamp above the middle of all your plants. Then turn it on.

 

[iliketogrow2]

ouch burn.

ok your right very noob. it will be my second grow im about 4 weeks from finishing my first one which has been alot smaller scale but still turned out pretty decent.

ill admit i got lazy wanted to skip doing my homework on closet grow cabs. i have a good veg box built which you can see in my gallery.

sorry for the ignorant post. ill try to keep those to a minimum

 

[marx2k]

What do you guys think the avg gpw for the new grower is?

And how about the avg gpw for the experienced grower?

Assume that the conditions are the same and that the strain is a thoroughly researched heavy yielder.

 

[jojajico]

What do you guys think the avg gpw for the new grower is?

And how about the avg gpw for the experienced grower?

Assume that the conditions are the same and that the strain is a thoroughly researched heavy yielder.

2 lbs is possible but ur gunna have to kno wut ur doing and ur gunna need the right setup.

for a new grower probably anywere from nothing to 1 gpw it all depends on how much they kno b4 hand. ive heard of as high as 2 gpw (one guy said 3 gpw but ive never seen proof of that)

more important than that is g/wh/m^3 it tells you really how good a grower is as it takes into account how much light ur using and space. the higher that number the better ur doing grow wise. gpw is very subjective... did u veg for a year... did you use a football field to achieve 2 gpw ect.

 

[Grownz]

I had a friend actually claim 2LBs off one 600w. lol. I found out about 2 months later it was 2 600's. If you can get 1g per watt, you're pretty good.
As seedynono said don't have any expections for your first grow. Esp if its a new method to you as it's pretty much you're first grow again in a way.

I'd put two 400's or two 600's in that space and Scrog it. It depends on your budget when it comes to ventlation, cooling, hydro setup, Ro water, CO2 etc etc. The skys the limit.

 

[jojajico]

if its for personal consumption why do u need/want 2 lbs. i mean im all for getting the most out of a grow but say u run a SOG every 2 months after a little experience you should be able to easily get 1 lb. do u consume more than 8 oz a month if so

 

[Grownz]

i think a better way to phrase my question is.

how can i use my veg chamber, and big closet to provide enough pot for 4 everyday smokers? the equipment described above is just my suggestion. budget is negotiable.

my goal yield 2lbs every harvest.

It's to supply 4 smokers. If each of 'em smoke a oz a week that's 32oz every 2 months. The grow period could be longer than 2 months so it could be less than a oz each, each week. Although it sounds like he has a veg chamber plus a large closet that he's using as a flowering closet, so if he timed it right the ones in the veg chamber would be in the flowering closet straight after he cuts the last lot down.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[jojajico]

It's to supply 4 smokers. If each of 'em smoke a oz a week that's 32oz every 2 months. The grow period could be longer than 2 months so it could be less than a oz each, each week. Although it sounds like he has a veg chamber plus a large closet that he's using as a flowering closet, so if he timed it right the ones in the veg chamber would be in the flowering closet straight after he cuts the last lot down.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

i think ur talking about a log vegged perpetual SOG. where instead of takeing clones and rooting them a week b4 harvest u do it a month b4 so they are larger once u put them into flower. that may work but u have to also consider that the plants will take up more space and u will be able to plant tless in the given area. kinda defeat the purpose of a SOG, with that type of grow you have to find the happy medium between plant number and size.

im actually working on a long veddeg sog experiment where i get a month of root growth while keeping foliage small, so you can do the same number of plant in a tradtional sog but get heavier yeilds from the same size plants. its a work in progress though.

 

[Grownz]

I was thinking scrog. Where you would veg for a least a few weeks in a veg chamber maybe topping or LSTin then chucking them under the screen in a flowering chamber and letting the strech take care of filling the screen. Got our wires crossed. Two totally different methods. lol

Sounds like a good idea with the large root growth and small amount of foliage. I Can see the logic to that idea.

 

[Guest]

Your best bet for yields is to just run a SOG setup with as many plants as you can cram in there. If ya need help just PM me =]

 

[jojajico]

I was thinking scrog. Where you would veg for a least a few weeks in a veg chamber maybe topping or LSTin then chucking them under the screen in a flowering chamber and letting the strech take care of filling the screen. Got our wires crossed. Two totally different methods. lol

Sounds like a good idea with the large root growth and small amount of foliage. I Can see the logic to that idea.

you have to train a SCROG or you should b4 u put it into flower. your best bet for what you want is SOG. trust me ull thanks me come manacure time.

 

[buddymag00]

i have a 600w closet grow in flower at the mo.im scrogging just 2 plants in my 4.5"x4.5" closet. i gave them 2 weeks extra veg and they now fill the whole space with a 15" thick canopy.i tie each bud point in position in its 2"x2" cube.(nearly every square on my garden metal mesh is occupied by a bud point.i lstd the plants before the scrog.i have a good extractor and carbonfilter and a medium sized fan which i blow at the bulb. i live in a cool climate but extraction is main concern cause the 600 fucks the condition of the air quickly in a small space. cool tube not nessesary unless in hot climate. this method of scrog is the clever way to get good yields with a 600 closet!
i failed to mention i use 2 15l topfeeder pots. if you are interested in the design i will post. happy growing!

 

[Grownz]

you have to train a SCROG or you should b4 u put it into flower. your best bet for what you want is SOG. trust me ull thanks me come manacure time.

That all depends on strain. That's why i said top or LST em so you've got enough growths tips to flower once it hits the screen. This works great when you have the right strain and have a plant spacing of 1 every square foot. If you're really worried then have modular screens like BigJ. Depends if your worried about plant numbers.

jojajico, have you ever Scrog'ed before?

I agree tho, the simplist way would be sog. Although once you master Scrog it will reward you and i just love 100+ buds all the same size and that even canopy!!

Buddymag, i'd love to see some pics!!!

 

[Grownz]

You could take it one step further and run it perpertual.

At the end of the day there are a million different combos to grow. Just try whatever you think would suit you and run with it. If you didn't like the last grow, change it.

 

[rainAgI4]

i think a better way to phrase my question is.

how can i use my veg chamber, and big closet to provide enough pot for 4 everyday smokers? the equipment described above is just my suggestion. budget is negotiable.

my goal yield 2lbs every harvest.

dude lol

you get a HALF gram per watt when your a beginner

pro's get maybe 1 gram per watt

no way you will ever achieve 2 pounds per harvest with a single closet, rofl

 

[Grownz]

His closet is 6' wide. With two lights and enough experience i think it is possible...