I have read more about DP going hermie then GHS. I have grown SSH and SLH both where top shelf smoke. The SLH was like lemon drops. No hermies here
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yup, all hermies 
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cant stand DP. there blueberry was disgusting. hermied, tons of leaves, horrible genetics imo
.cant stand DP. there blueberry was disgusting. hermied, tons of leaves, horrible genetics imo
spose specificity can't hurt - not just hermies in that there were balls or a nanner or two, hermies in that the flowers were almost an even mix between male and female. essentially...hairy nanners. it was like ziggy stardust pulled up a chair to my growshow.
Backwoods Bud
Member
I agree, I've grown DP's Master Kush Fems(very good smoke) and no hermies. Also grew their Orange Bud Fems, no hermies and some stinky ass good smoke. Grew out their Blueberry Fems, 1 of 5 hermied. It was still great smoke. One plant produced 15 S1's that made more great smoke. Blueberry is prone to hermie, show me a breeders Blueberry that never does.
Don't knock them till you've tried a few of their strains.
love?
Member
The reports about hermies aren't all bullshit.
I grew out a regular 5-pack of DP Skunk #1 (bought from Seedboutique) a few months ago. 4/5 germ, two females and both hermied. GHS Bubba Kushes in the same cab were fine.
The plants made a lot of staminate flowers and some of them were difficult to spot and pick because they appeared directly under bigger pistillate flowers. On the plus side the pollen may not have been very potent as only a couple seeds were found in the entire crop (but remember I picked off all the balls.). I suspect that they hermied from very little stress, ~14c (52f) night temps on a few nights to be exact, as that is honestly the only stress I can think of them having to endure and the staminate flowers also (slowly) stopped disappearing after this problem in the environment was fixed.
I wasn't really impressed with the males either as I was gonna make some seeds but the males seemed so "weak" that I decided not to. But otoh I guess this time it was for the best.
To make my experience even "better" I took quite some time to write a lengthy grow report and then it failed to pass approval! Though I can't blame that on DP I guess. Wonder what the fuck is up with that anyway. A lot of the grow reports that do get approved, while all good because of the valuable information they provide, don't seem to have had half of the time I used put into making them but they all pass... Well whatever this is kinda off-topic anyway.
But back to the point... since so many people are reporting hermies I'm guessing sexual stability isn't very high on Dutch Passion's list of breeding priorities. For some that may be a huge issue but for me not really. I won't be getting Skunk #1 from them again, especially since it's also available from countless other companies, but I'd still grow other strains from them.
I grew out a regular 5-pack of DP Skunk #1 (bought from Seedboutique) a few months ago. 4/5 germ, two females and both hermied. GHS Bubba Kushes in the same cab were fine.
The plants made a lot of staminate flowers and some of them were difficult to spot and pick because they appeared directly under bigger pistillate flowers. On the plus side the pollen may not have been very potent as only a couple seeds were found in the entire crop (but remember I picked off all the balls.). I suspect that they hermied from very little stress, ~14c (52f) night temps on a few nights to be exact, as that is honestly the only stress I can think of them having to endure and the staminate flowers also (slowly) stopped disappearing after this problem in the environment was fixed.
I wasn't really impressed with the males either as I was gonna make some seeds but the males seemed so "weak" that I decided not to. But otoh I guess this time it was for the best.
To make my experience even "better" I took quite some time to write a lengthy grow report and then it failed to pass approval! Though I can't blame that on DP I guess.
Wonder what the fuck is up with that anyway. A lot of the grow reports that do get approved, while all good because of the valuable information they provide, don't seem to have had half of the time I used put into making them but they all pass... Well whatever this is kinda off-topic anyway. But back to the point... since so many people are reporting hermies I'm guessing sexual stability isn't very high on Dutch Passion's list of breeding priorities. For some that may be a huge issue but for me not really. I won't be getting Skunk #1 from them again, especially since it's also available from countless other companies, but I'd still grow other strains from them.
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bcell
Even if Dutch Passion was intentionally breeding for hermies, I doubt they could achieve the high percentages attributed to them.
love?
Member
Well for example in my case (at least if I'm correct about the reason) sure it was my fault / "I didn't know what I was doing" but come on now... A good plant should be able to handle ~14C night temps without any problems IMO.
So maybe they are meant exclusively for "good" growers or whatever, but I'd say that's a valid thing to criticize.
Lucky 7
Active member
well I think you mean 14C (57F) & not -14 (7F) . . . . even the 57F indoors is a might coolish and will stunt growth I've learned from someone else, so ? . .
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undoubtedly true, lmao
been growing for 10yrs & never had a freakin hermie in my garden as far as I know,lol
granted, I only plant 1 indoor/year, but still, I find all this talk of hermies just not justifiable . . . .
knocking on wood, dancing around to ward off hexes, hermies, mites, & rippers
:yay:
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undoubtedly true, lmao
been growing for 10yrs & never had a freakin hermie in my garden as far as I know,lol
granted, I only plant 1 indoor/year, but still, I find all this talk of hermies just not justifiable . . . .
knocking on wood, dancing around to ward off hexes, hermies, mites, & rippers
:yay:
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Blue
@Love I had this conversation the other day with a freind about the ammount of Plants that you see Herm these days. The only conclusion we could come to is poor breeding practice & poor selection. It seems these days Breeders onyl want to get the seed out into the market while either the hype is high or the flavour is still in favour.
I dont expect every plant to be bullet proof but you do expect them to be able to handle some slight stress.....I have been growing for near 20 years now & some of the stuff we have in our gardens are very temperamental now compared to what we were growing back in the day.
As for Dutch passion I have seen herms from their gear but they were stressed by new growers, my self I have never used their fem range but have never had any problems with their normal range & I have grown most of it, they have some nice stuff but its maily old skool Dutch not that there is anything worng with that.
I dont expect every plant to be bullet proof but you do expect them to be able to handle some slight stress.....I have been growing for near 20 years now & some of the stuff we have in our gardens are very temperamental now compared to what we were growing back in the day.
As for Dutch passion I have seen herms from their gear but they were stressed by new growers, my self I have never used their fem range but have never had any problems with their normal range & I have grown most of it, they have some nice stuff but its maily old skool Dutch not that there is anything worng with that.
well I think you mean 14C (57F) & not -14 (7F) . . . . even the 57F indoors is a might coolish and will stunt growth I've learned from someone else, so ? . .
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undoubtedly true, lmao
been growing for 10yrs & never had a freakin hermie in my garden as far as I know,lol
granted, I only plant 1 indoor/year, but still, I find all this talk of hermies just not justifiable . . . .
knocking on wood, dancing around to ward off hexes, hermies, mites, & rippers
So with your massive experience of 10 plants you are going to come in and say people don't know what the fuck they are doing and the genetics are fine? At 1 plant per year for ten years you have amassed a ton of knowledge about genetics? If a plant can't take a 57 degree night without hermies popping up then it seems like weak genetics to me. Are these indoor only strains because it sure gets colder than 60 degrees overnight during some Oregon summer nights. My room pulls fresh outside air so it gets cold and I had one out of six plants go hermie this round so I try to avoid what I consider "weak" strains that might be susceptible to nanners. I am be no means an expert but it pisses me off when someone comes in spouting crap and then admits they have only ever grown 10 plants. Peace
LOL. not know what Im doing huh?
well, i had 9 plants doing.. only 1 hermied, and it was the dutch passion blueberry.. late hermi, but still, a hermi..
well, i had 9 plants doing.. only 1 hermied, and it was the dutch passion blueberry.. late hermi, but still, a hermi..
it's just what all conversations come down to in this realm.
one person's experience w/ a product isn't universal - it worked for you, so if it did anything less than that for somebody else, well...obviously that somebody else is a retard.
i'm not entirely sure just what i should have done to prevent the 3 out of 10 females i got from turning into seed pods with pistils from the very start of flowering, but it's gotta be my fault ;^) the amazing thing is that my retardation didn't get all over the other strains running at the same time and make them ladyboy pieces of crap.
i'm fully, absolutely, and positively willing to accept people's positive accounts of any seed manufacturer - that was the person's experience.
i don't however see any benefit to discounting negative experiences simply because you didn't share them - or writing it off as user error, without actually assessing what the user did, in any shape, form, or fashion.
it's intellectually lazy as balls.
one person's experience w/ a product isn't universal - it worked for you, so if it did anything less than that for somebody else, well...obviously that somebody else is a retard.
i'm not entirely sure just what i should have done to prevent the 3 out of 10 females i got from turning into seed pods with pistils from the very start of flowering, but it's gotta be my fault ;^) the amazing thing is that my retardation didn't get all over the other strains running at the same time and make them ladyboy pieces of crap.
i'm fully, absolutely, and positively willing to accept people's positive accounts of any seed manufacturer - that was the person's experience.
i don't however see any benefit to discounting negative experiences simply because you didn't share them - or writing it off as user error, without actually assessing what the user did, in any shape, form, or fashion.
it's intellectually lazy as balls.
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IceColdCrickets
AMEN! It is a fact DP has hermie issues in CERTAIN stains they offer! To many reports justify the claims, deal with it.
True and all seeds are not created equal. 99% will grow like described but there are some beans that are off slightly and these beans can produce very special elite cuts or Hermie. Even the most experienced grower will get a Hermie from time to time. It's the genetics
