4th Attempt 4 forums later I still dont know what to do please help times ticking :(

[Jwhat201]

One girl transplanted 'the MG girl' ill call her for now lol. This second transplant went a lot smoother than her first and I made sure to fill in with lots of the promix hp even buried the stem a little. Also I looked at her roots, way better root system than was there for her first transplant. first time it was root bound but barely anything along the sides all at the base. This time good rooting all around and not root bound. Made the transplant so nice hah. All white roots too. Good signs? I did notice a bad sign the deficiency has started on the next leaves up I see a couple spots. Not gonna panic hopefully I get that cal mag tomorrow and it stops that . Also noticed she's been growing more than I thought and I couldve probably had her topped again, gonna wait now though until she's up and running again

 

[Jwhat201]

Marswell is an interesting brand name for lighting. I found the 600 is 113. I bet they are still selling these in 10 years time. They are at least 5 years old now.

They sell so cheap you can't really grumble. There is no value for money as such though. No saving over buying from say Mars. The real Mars


Edit: I'm interested in the drainage, which can help things breath, even if nothing drains out. Mainly it's the ornamental use the pots are for. Lots of plastics are not food safe. It's usually the plasticisers. Which can be heavy metals. Most garden hoses shouldn't be drank from. It's a commonly overlooked area of equipment choice. We had a sticky about a killer hose, and there were killer tent poles.

Thanks for the tips! Yea I kinda just got the best I could afford and yea I didn't grumble at $100 haha. And they're even cheaper now that was years ago. a couple months ago I paid like 75 for a new 1000W. Not Marswell but yea, Amazon. Yea I've ways wanted a Mars haha, maybe someday. I am super happy with these for now though

 

[Jwhat201]

I have another quick question if somebody doesn't mind. Has anyone tried this Calmag supplement? Or does it look like it would do ok with MG/promix HP? Diablo Nutrients Monstercal. It's the only calmag I can find in town and I haven't heard anything about it.

Ima attach a few screenshots from their website , and a link, I hope that's legal lol.

Thank you

Diablo Monster Cal | Diablo Nutrients

diablonutrients.com

 

[exploziv]

Maybe I read it bad, but seems low concentration. Do you have a pic of the label where they say concentration in % or ppm? And usage instructions? It will work but might be an expensive diluted solution..

 

[Chevy cHaze]

My 5cts would be calmag and move the lights further away or just use the smaller one alone, it's still way too powerful. You want around 20W per sqf /30cmX30cm. More is overkill. Then later, ramp it up.
One last thing: take a closer look at your VPD, 28C requires MUCH higher rh values for these babies. More like in the 80s! Your high temps on the other hand can attract critters, bring temps down to low 20s celsius and rh up to 70% for them to be able to drink properly.
Good luck and all the best
CC

 

[Jwhat201]

Maybe I read it bad, but seems low concentration. Do you have a pic of the label where they say concentration in % or ppm? And usage instructions? It will work but might be an expensive diluted solution..

Thanks! I couldn't find the percentages but I have them now they're on the label I'm attaching a pic. There's also some Iron in it it's just omitted from the list for this color bottle for some reason . Covid got them having to use 2 different color bottles and so on. a sticker on the front says contains iron and I talked to the guy who supplies the store with the stuff and uses it himself he says it's the same exact product they just got to label them differently for some reason. So i guess he would know and he seems like a really nice guy. He did stay on the phone with me for an hour today hearing me out and suggesting things so. Excuse my rambling please lol pic attached of percentages but not sure on the iron I guess cause that's on the other bottle and I liked this color better lol. I got a feed chart with it too

 

[exploziv]

Yeah, seems good!

 

[troutman]

Follow the instructions.

Use: 0.5ml to 1 ml per litre of water in weeks one to three of the growth phase.
1 ml to 1.5 ml per litre of water weeks one through six of bloom phase once a
week as suggested.

Iron in reasonable amounts help. I use Gaia Greensand to increase mine.

 

[Jwhat201]

My 5cts would be calmag and move the lights further away or just use the smaller one alone, it's still way too powerful. You want around 20W per sqf /30cmX30cm. More is overkill. Then later, ramp it up.
One last thing: take a closer look at your VPD, 28C requires MUCH higher rh values for these babies. More like in the 80s! Your high temps on the other hand can attract critters, bring temps down to low 20s celsius and rh up to 70% for them to be able to drink properly.
Good luck and all the best
CC

Thanks man! Much appreciated. Yea, I definitely don't want critters haha. it's like on cooler days I'm able to keep it around that level but the hot days it's more difficult cause I also don't want the tent doors opened too long too often right. In process of trying to figure it out. the vents I'll open all day hot days cause they have a screen but yea. Still not enough some days to keep the temps down to 23 without opening the door too much. I noticed opening the door brings the humidity way down so fast then takes longer for it to build back up, so I been opening the door once maybe twice a day for half hour to an hour long enough to get the temps down give them a break. Currently trying to find an exhaust fan maybe thatll help things too. Right now I just have a 6 inch clip on fan way up in corner of tent. doesn't oscillate . I'm able to turn it horizontally if I wanted to tho and tilt it

 

[Jwhat201]

I finally listened and I'm kinda actually having more hope after taking the natural pics haha. I posted because someone asked again on 420magazine but I think they just banned me and I want them posted somewhere now lol, and someone probably asked here too early on

These are today before I transplanted the other one too into promix hp and same size pot the other girl is already in in the pics. Nice white roots on both

 

[f-e]

That substrate to dryer than the day you got it from the bag. That shouldn't happen. You are watering the surface in the middle, while your roots are reaching out into dust.

The little spots looks terrible, but I think such as rash can be from overly dry soil. It's very extreme here though. So bugs are quite likely, as that's usually what will leave such dots. Still.. it's not quite the spread I would expect from a bugs movement (or colony)

 

[troutman]

Transplanting into a bigger container always helps improve things.
Once the plants recover a little do cut those bad leaves off. When
I transplant I water until I see a tiny runoff to make sure there's no
dry spots and make all the soil have good contact with the roots.
Then chill out until the soil is dry again.

 

[xet]

My leaves look like this. I am really good at the "not doing" many things kind of growing.

Use clean water, read about clean water, understand clean water, read about making compost teas with clean water and clean ingredients, and pay attention to what plant cells do not require and will not tolerate.

There is so much to learn but you must slow down and not rush the plant.

When in doubt focus on your water and trust your new soil is not depleted of the nine nutrients a plant needs to grow and realize there is something fundamentally wrong with your approach.

 

[xet]

I have another quick question if somebody doesn't mind. Has anyone tried this Calmag supplement? Or does it look like it would do ok with MG/promix HP? Diablo Nutrients Monstercal. It's the only calmag I can find in town and I haven't heard anything about it.

Ima attach a few screenshots from their website , and a link, I hope that's legal lol.

Thank you
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Diablo Monster Cal | Diablo Nutrients

diablonutrients.com

I go to my hardware store and find a 50lb bag of naturally pulverized (powdered) limestone for my cal/mag. Costs anywhere from $3-$10 for a 50lb bag and it is all natural.

 

[Jwhat201]

Transplanting into a bigger container always helps improve things.
Once the plants recover a little do cut those bad leaves off. When
I transplant I water until I see a tiny runoff to make sure there's no
dry spots and make all the soil have good contact with the roots.
Then chill out until the soil is dry again.

Thanks man! Yea I kinda like to cut the leaves off at the last possible moment because sometimes taking the damaged leaves off will just make the problem travel upwards faster. I'm going to start trying to water to run off. I've always been afraid of doing that for some reason, haha. I think I did it after these transplants though. or at least almost

 

[Jwhat201]

That substrate to dryer than the day you got it from the bag. That shouldn't happen. You are watering the surface in the middle, while your roots are reaching out into dust.

The little spots looks terrible, but I think such as rash can be from overly dry soil. It's very extreme here though. So bugs are quite likely, as that's usually what will leave such dots. Still.. it's not quite the spread I would expect from a bugs movement (or colony)

Nah man I don't water like that. idk why the soil was darker in the middle but it was as dry as the rest. Potted up after i took these. Maybe it's because she was started in MG idk

 

[troutman]

Another trick, I sometimes use when I have a bunch of plants is divide them by
giving some a little more nutrients and/or water. The other half get less food
to see how they respond and go with works better over time.

 

[Jwhat201]

That substrate to dryer than the day you got it from the bag. That shouldn't happen. You are watering the surface in the middle, while your roots are reaching out into dust.

The little spots looks terrible, but I think such as rash can be from overly dry soil. It's very extreme here though. So bugs are quite likely, as that's usually what will leave such dots. Still.. it's not quite the spread I would expect from a bugs movement (or colony)

Thanks but nah man idk why the soil in the center looked like that today but I definitely don't water like that haha. Also it was as dry as the surrounding, potted up right after I took these. Maybe it couldve been because she was started in MG which is darker, and dries weird sometimes?

 

[Jwhat201]

Gah I keep doing that, lol, how do you delete replies or can you. I forgot to say thx lol

 

[f-e]

There is no hiding your shame lol

I was looking how the soil seemed to be pulling away from the edges of the pot. A sure sign it's too dry.
Odd how it looks so much wetter in the middle. Perhaps it's not as dry is it looks