4400watts in a 1 or 2 bedroom house need advice

[Amstel Light]

You can easily get 2-4 oz per plant but off ten day veg??? Im running coco with 2 week veg and i will be very surprised to get even two zips per plant. I dont feel like checking your post history, whats up with your grow!

well i hate to fuck with you..... but something is wrong with your grow...

i have never posted pics since OG days.... goes against my code...but i just did my first coco and because it was not a conventional grow and i thought it was very unique i was gonna post some pics to share... it says it is to large a pic???
I have this to say if you live in a place that allows you to grow within the law and you violate it shame on you...
btw 6-8 OZ 1 plant 400watt slightly less than 2 weeks veg...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

naw my grow is going beautiful right now, its my first time with coco and the plants seem to love this stuff especially the presoaked nitrogen rich environment for veg.

my plants are a little smaller, i vegged them around 2 weeks and they are about 2 feet tall now about 3 weeks into flowering. if people are really pulling this much off coco i should be pleasantly surprised.

im gonna try the 1-4 plants per 400 method on my next grow, i grew a few topped plants under a 400 and they yielded alot more(vegged 1 month). You got 6-8 ounces out one plant under a 400 but on my last grow i got 7-8zips off 9 plants under a 400, so it all kind of evens out i guess. its easier to water and take care of one plant though, the part that confuses me is the two week veg?? How many times you top, do you LST? like many others i am still learning myself and trying to figure out the most cost effective way to yield the most treee.

 

[Amstel Light]

well tell me how to resize my pics and i will share with you the HYDRO FRANKENSTEIN ... mine may not be the best example... yes i lst'd at around 3-4 foot i never topped her..it was the most ghetto on the fly grow i have ever done and one of the funnest..
here is the link to my dead thread....i guess no one believes me lol...
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=115156

 

[Norcalpurps]

norcalpurps, no offense, but your talking about setting up good commercial grows, yet you say "i dont have the time to learn hydro" or you cant even spell properly. Seriously, the only people i hear type shit like N E instead ANY or that internet slang are 16 year olds. At least learn how to talk properly, im not buying shit off some kid in baggy shorts and a white tee talking to me about his purps, you need to carry a more professional demeanor if you want to succeed in this. But hey fuck my advice right, for my own interests i should probably want kids like you to fail so go ahead and do your thing!


not trying to sound like a dick though, im all for what you are talking about, we have the same mindset, but it doesnt look good to see people come on here thinking they are gonna be the next tony montana because they set up a 5k grow. Now im not saying you think like that, but i sort of get the idea you are in this to get rich quick, which im not gonna lie, we all want that right??

and you got a club connect? with all the latest laws i would think twice about flooding a club with peez, shit i dont even touch clubs because they are the first to get hit, a steady connect is gonna throw red flags with the latest laws they are forcing on bay area clubs and their supplies, thats the MAIN thing they are after right now too, they want the clubs that are getting their shit from underground co-ops and untaxed commercial grows, they love that shit. They get to steal your money and turn your daily driver into a undercover patrol car.

At the same time, good luck with whatever you do. Cant knock the hustle, but seriously if you have to ask about a 5k grow being hot in Nor Cal, (which its not, if you follow certain precautions) maybe you should just think twice about every move you make, show extra caution.

For a 5k grow i wouldnt use a 1-2 bedroom though, gotta find a castle out in the CCC or something with at least 4 rooms, but even thats hot, i hear rumors about them pulling grid info at subdivisions out in brentwood and the 925. Oaksterdam is your best bet, but you gotta watch out for thieves and stickup boys more than cops. The best place to grow is frisco, but the rent there is ridiculous.

yea fuck your advice im glad you said that....look man dont worry about how i type u dont no shit about me or my demeanor im fare from a kid in baggy jeans (ima grown ass man) so dont come at me with your stereotypes it just show's your true ignorance.

 

[Norcalpurps]

damn i wish someone would have told me that if i asked for advice on this site i would have to deal with dick heads, i would have thought twice about asking a question. Please to all my fellow growers out there if u got advice for me then please let me no what u think about what im tryn to do (4400k good idea or bad) but all that extra stuff that has nothin to do with my question please save that speech for ya kids cuz i dont want to hear it.

 

[gdup]

ya if you post here at all you have to take the dickheads with the real people. Just how it goes I guess.

 

[Amstel Light]

well hope your not mad at me?! i would say go for it! do you have everything you need for it?

 

[Chunkybuddha]

damn i wish someone would have told me that if i asked for advice on this site i would have to deal with dick heads, i would have thought twice about asking a question. Please to all my fellow growers out there if u got advice for me then please let me no what u think about what im tryn to do (4400k good idea or bad) but all that extra stuff that has nothin to do with my question please save that speech for ya kids cuz i dont want to hear it.

In my opinion, and it's no where near as good as others, but I don't see much of a threat. As long as you're responsible.. 4400 watts really isn't THAT much. I mean, where I live it was about $40 bucks extra for approx. 800-1000watts. And that's including a fan and a small pump. Besides I read somewhere in the thread that electricity companies don't really care as long as you're not stealing it.. I figure that's SO true. I mean, if you live in a city with 500,000 more residents, there just isn't any logical reason why an electricity company would call and say wtf your bill just went up 300 bucks? They're in business to make money. I'd say you could stay clear with anything under 10k. And even if you are over 10k, its not like they're going to send police, they'll just call and make sure they didn't screw up.

Energy companies want to sell their product and if the consumer uses more than normal, the more the merrier! I didn't see Ronald McDonald ever telling fat people to get the fuck out of his store... He wants to sell his cheeseburgers.. and I'm high... prrrroobbabbllyyy going to head out for a cheeseburger.

Anyway, you'll be there everyday or almost to check on your girls, just clean up the garbage, cut your lawn, watch for smell, leave a livingroom light on or something once in a while. Peace brother.

 

[thinman]

" i grow in 16gallon pots and i can pull over there zips each plant with co2 then ima go bigger on the next grow until i can fully stock the dispensary".
norcalpurps

my advice to you is to take that $7,000, add another $3,000 to it, then find a good attorney with lots of marijuana cases under his belt, and hire him with a $10,000 retainer to represent you when you get busted. might even take more than that if you want him to bail you out too.

or you could take the good advice offered earlier and grow legal numbers permitted in your state---and be satisfied. i agree.....

this thread is absurd.........

 

[Norcalpurps]

" i grow in 16gallon pots and i can pull over there zips each plant with co2 then ima go bigger on the next grow until i can fully stock the dispensary".
norcalpurps

my advice to you is to take that $7,000, add another $3,000 to it, then find a good attorney with lots of marijuana cases under his belt, and hire him with a $10,000 retainer to represent you when you get busted. might even take more than that if you want him to bail you out too.

or you could take the good advice offered earlier and grow legal numbers permitted in your state---and be satisfied. i agree.....

this thread is absurd.........

Look selling to the club is not my main goal here its, getting this crop off the ground without getting my door kicked in. Thanks for ya comment but you act like its mission impossible, my freind i think u need to look around more threads bro theres cats growing 5 times bigger then what im tryn to do....like i said i just came from a thread with a guy f@#kn got away with a 37k grow with no generator and that lasted for a year i believe before he retired...now that to me would be mission impossible. I bet if i asked him if i should do it or not he would laugh at me.....so i guess i already have my mine made up i just wanna hear peoples advice that have been there an done that already. and im waiting on a call to see if i can get this 3bedroom home so that will be a little bit better for me and what im trying to do then a 1 or 2 bedroom

In my opinion, and it's no where near as good as others, but I don't see much of a threat. As long as you're responsible.. 4400 watts really isn't THAT much. I mean, where I live it was about $40 bucks extra for approx. 800-1000watts. And that's including a fan and a small pump. Besides I read somewhere in the thread that electricity companies don't really care as long as you're not stealing it.. I figure that's SO true. I mean, if you live in a city with 500,000 more residents, there just isn't any logical reason why an electricity company would call and say wtf your bill just went up 300 bucks? They're in business to make money. I'd say you could stay clear with anything under 10k. And even if you are over 10k, its not like they're going to send police, they'll just call and make sure they didn't screw up.

Energy companies want to sell their product and if the consumer uses more than normal, the more the merrier! I didn't see Ronald McDonald ever telling fat people to get the fuck out of his store... He wants to sell his cheeseburgers.. and I'm high... prrrroobbabbllyyy going to head out for a cheeseburger.

Anyway, you'll be there everyday or almost to check on your girls, just clean up the garbage, cut your lawn, watch for smell, leave a livingroom light on or something once in a while. Peace brother.

yea ima just stay there and play it safe. have u ever ran a 4k or more grow op?

well hope your not mad at me?! i would say go for it! do you have everything you need for it?

no im not mad at u, but yes sir i got all the money and equipment!! i just like to hear from others that have done it already.....but the advice that i really did take to heart is that a one bedroom might be to small so ima try and get a 2 or 3bedroom (but im waiting on a 3 right now)

 

[Ajunta Pall]

Norcalpurp, this is what I would do were I you. First, you need to go visit some rental property. See what you can afford or are willing to spend. The type of property you should get should be in a word: isolated. Then take pictures of the rooms you plan on using, estimate the amount of sqft, then try to picture your garden in it.

The wattage you plan on using may change once you see what you have to work with. Unless your grow rooms are absolutely large, I would shy away from 1000 HPS, being that they produce way too much heat for me. I'd go w/600s personally. One 1000 watt MH for vegging clones and growing out mothers is okay.

Since you are going to be commercial, you need to pack as many plants in the room as possible. To accomplish this I would use 3-5 gal grow bags instead of those monstrous 16 gal pots you plan on using. Those large pots are only good for your clone mothers.

Also, plan where you are going to put your exhaust and air intake. Venting is just as important as your grow lights. If you can, try to vent into a crawl space, rather than out a chimney or whatnot.

As far as strain is concerned, I'd stick to only one strain per flowering room. This is so that all your plants finish about the same time. And, of course, you'll need to SOG 'em. Choose an easy quick finishing commercial strain of course.

A couple last notes, try to find a house you can expand in. For now stay away from exotic high maintenance strains like blueberry. Go for easy to grow plants that produce weight. If I were you, I'd also plant a few guerilla gardens outside. The more you harvest, the more you make. Just make sure you put your safety before all else. That means doing things right and not cutting corners.

 

[Ajunta Pall]

I primarily grow outdoors, guerilla style, but use 3050 watts indoors to veg clones and seedlings before transplanting 'em.

 

[JackTheGrower]

thanks to for the advice.....and to fortragni if u dont have nothing positive to say then shut the f@#k up! I've been growing since 2003 and made up to $7000 each grow n a walk in closet so i have the experience. i have always wanted to grow big but never really got the chance to until now but after my cuzin told me he is going to open up a club n oaksterdam and he will buy from me after he seen the quality i produced that's what made me want to start a big grow asap. i also have a friend that is a electrician so that part is also covered i just figured people on here got huge ass 9k grows and they r doing fine so y cant i do close to the same. im also only going to do one grow n that house then move out asap into a bigger home.

I was truly interested in adding but as soon as i got to page two , well it's a turn off.

Let me say and maybe someone else has posted this advice, I may never know, That electrical safety is the most important thing.
If you are drawing heavy loads you need to use wiring designed for it.
You may need to wire your "rental" just so you can draw what 4400 watts ?

I'm a medical person in California and the most plants i have ever had going was 6 but I added a dedicated circuit for my equipment and used GFI's and rated cords and connectors.

It truth I'm solid for a good 30 amps of peak pull but I run way less than that and am breaker-ed at 20.

After smell I'd say fire is the next risk. But in some massive ad hock setup fire may be first.

So with the best of respect in mind do it right from the start and you won't be sorry.

Jack

 

[Yes4Prop215]

yea fuck your advice im glad you said that....look man dont worry about how i type u dont no shit about me or my demeanor im fare from a kid in baggy jeans (ima grown ass man) so dont come at me with your stereotypes it just show's your true ignorance.

Hahaha if you actually read my post you would see i was maybe throwing some real advice your way, but i love how your reaction and post back really illustrates what an idiot you sound like. Why are you so sensitive about being called out on your terrible grammar skills? That shit just annoys me, i grew up speaking like that and with a bunch of other retards who speak like that, grow the fuck up. You dont wear baggy jeans? Then what do you wear my friend. You swear to god you dont have a tony montana t shirt in your closet??

 

[Yes4Prop215]

damn i wish someone would have told me that if i asked for advice on this site i would have to deal with dick heads, i would have thought twice about asking a question. Please to all my fellow growers out there if u got advice for me then please let me no what u think about what im tryn to do (4400k good idea or bad) but all that extra stuff that has nothin to do with my question please save that speech for ya kids cuz i dont want to hear it.

Welcome to the real world, if you think I'm a dickhead i dont know what sensitive environment you grew up in.

You asked if it is a good idea or bad idea.


Yes, its a good idea to maybe set up a nice grow to earn some cash if you do it properly.


No, its a bad fucking idea to set up a 5k in a 1bedroom house in oaksterdam, and then on top of that not even live on premises.

Everyone and their moms wants to grow big and sell to clubs right now in the bay area. You are number 100000000, but on top of that you cant spell or type properly. Good luck!

 

[Norcalpurps]

Hahaha if you actually read my post you would see i was maybe throwing some real advice your way, but i love how your reaction and post back really illustrates what an idiot you sound like. Why are you so sensitive about being called out on your terrible grammar skills? That shit just annoys me, i grew up speaking like that and with a bunch of other retards who speak like that, grow the fuck up. You dont wear baggy jeans? Then what do you wear my friend. You swear to god you dont have a tony montana t shirt in your closet??

yea,..huh u can stop talking now

 

[Norcalpurps]

Norcalpurp, this is what I would do were I you. First, you need to go visit some rental property. See what you can afford or are willing to spend. The type of property you should get should be in a word: isolated. Then take pictures of the rooms you plan on using, estimate the amount of sqft, then try to picture your garden in it.

The wattage you plan on using may change once you see what you have to work with. Unless your grow rooms are absolutely large, I would shy away from 1000 HPS, being that they produce way too much heat for me. I'd go w/600s personally. One 1000 watt MH for vegging clones and growing out mothers is okay.

Since you are going to be commercial, you need to pack as many plants in the room as possible. To accomplish this I would use 3-5 gal grow bags instead of those monstrous 16 gal pots you plan on using. Those large pots are only good for your clone mothers.

Also, plan where you are going to put your exhaust and air intake. Venting is just as important as your grow lights. If you can, try to vent into a crawl space, rather than out a chimney or whatnot.

As far as strain is concerned, I'd stick to only one strain per flowering room. This is so that all your plants finish about the same time. And, of course, you'll need to SOG 'em. Choose an easy quick finishing commercial strain of course.

A couple last notes, try to find a house you can expand in. For now stay away from exotic high maintenance strains like blueberry. Go for easy to grow plants that produce weight. If I were you, I'd also plant a few guerilla gardens outside. The more you harvest, the more you make. Just make sure you put your safety before all else. That means doing things right and not cutting corners.

yea i have the grow room setup all thought out already ima spend a good amount of money so ima just stick with what has worked for me for these past few years....but you think 3-5gal are better for the plant? i got 35 purple kush plants and they dont yeild much thats why i grow in big pots, i dont really like to those damn things are heavy as hell but they give me my yeilds i need.

I was truly interested in adding but as soon as i got to page two , well it's a turn off.

Let me say and maybe someone else has posted this advice, I may never know, That electrical safety is the most important thing.
If you are drawing heavy loads you need to use wiring designed for it.
You may need to wire your "rental" just so you can draw what 4400 watts ?

I'm a medical person in California and the most plants i have ever had going was 6 but I added a dedicated circuit for my equipment and used GFI's and rated cords and connectors.

It truth I'm solid for a good 30 amps of peak pull but I run way less than that and am breaker-ed at 20.

After smell I'd say fire is the next risk. But in some massive ad hock setup fire may be first.

So with the best of respect in mind do it right from the start and you won't be sorry.

Jack

you might have not seen my early post but i said my boy is a electrician and he is going to do the house for me....he did my last small 2600watt grow room and i had no problems

 

[Amstel Light]

Everyone and their moms wants to grow big and sell to clubs right now in the bay area. You are number 100000000, but on top of that you cant spell or type properly. Good luck!

Really is that how it works?if y'all are overstocked over there.... i know a guy who knows a guy......

look purp if you can grow legally there but are limited to plant numbers .....
go KRUSTY BABY!!!!! thats all i would do over there...you could have 10K and still be legit.... hey can you post a link to the 37K op...thats my dream, once a year.... that's it plus my trees if im in cali HAHAHAHAAAAA MOFO!! YEA GO FOR IT MAN... at least dwc vegged 2-3 weeks....

 

[TwoOhSix!]

I met a girl that grows for dispensaries, said she had a 4 BR house + garage + 3 hydro huts running 32K TOTAL!!

I was blown away, she said her power bill was like 8k/mo. This is in Cali, she just said they have a hot tub and kiln to explain mass power usage.

Just gotta have some balls...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

Shes smart enough to set up a 32k grow yet dumb enough to go around telling people about it hahaha.