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400 watt club...

Tunefull

Active member
hello darrin
I To am cursed with a very small grow area

For the first time(reagarding 400 watts)AT last i can say that is EVEN smaller than my cab(Thinking height wise)*SMileS*
My flowering cab is 3ft by 3 ft and 4 and a half foot height)
Sadly tho i dont have a cool tube(would deff get one with my next purcahse)

I done a lot of looking at diff methods
And tbh the only one(at the time)That i could imagine in my head was LST
The underneath of a Screen always looked a mess(in pics i saw)And having no Experience in growing i could just not picture how things would devlop


I found LST a joy to do(I do mine just before i water(Stems more flexi then)
I can imagine LSTing more than say 6-8 would be tiresome,but it is enjoyable when only have a few

Few things to think on
Think about your pots(ideally somit wider rather than a tall pot(but not to shallow))

When you plant your seeds,Try and plant them more to one side of your pot.Then you can train your stem along the pot(if u see what i mean).

Always try and keep your main stem higher than the other stems(by a inch or somit)This will mean it always stays your main stem...Unless for some reason you want another stem to become your main stem...

Also try and get your main stem(Running along your pot)As low to the earth as you can(But without losing it as your main stem)

And even if u do snap a stem(Tho u got to be quite rough to do that)It is not the end of the world(if fact can use stem snapping as a training(but it is quite extreme)


Anyway i am sure you will do fine
Will enjoy looking at pics of your grow(the grow dairies are good(for you and others looking for tips))
take care

I think i have some pics of my first grow(its the only grow i followed that closely)*grins*I only had 3 plants(but as u see in one pic they fill out the area nicely)












 

darrinjefferson

Active member
tunefull- thanks for all the help bro. on my first 2 grows i did a little combo of scrog/lst. i have already tied down alot of branches in my day, and i hope alot more to come. since i have a decent amount of grow space though it would be fine not to train the mainstem a little higher. i would try and get it 2" above soil. my last grows when i pulled it over all the way to the soil i didnt like it. water got all over it and it sucked for trimming.
but still, lst is def the way to go with this i think. and if i want to guess i could scrog another time.
how many plants do you think i can fit in that space? 6.25sqft. i have seen a guy pull 3oz off of a plant in a 1gal pot.

i also just did some quick math and i should have somewhere around 30" of grow height, so i wont have to worry too much about lst. maybe some early flower tiedown during stretch?
thanks for all your help

ok so i keep thinking of more question.
will a vortex 400 inline be enough to cool my light and also pull air through a can 9000? or do i need to step up to the vortex 600 and can 33?
thanks for your help again.

well heres some pics of my previous grows. all cfl.350watts







 
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Tunefull

Active member
hello darrin

I never realised you had done a few grows allready(nice looking ones too)*smileS*

Myself I dont like more than 6 plants(Things are just to packed (Even at 6))4 i think would suit my space best
Should get at least 2 OZ a plant(with 4)
That is in my grow space,What you would fit in i have no idea m8 sorry


From my point of veiw,What works for one guy may not suit for another guy..So i have just nicked idea's from loads of others*grins*Also i try to experiment with diff things to see what happens/works best so on



Mmm about the fan
I guess a vortex 400 is a 4 inch?
600 being 6 inch
If so i use a 6 inch,And cant imagine a 4 inch cutting it(again tho i have no cool tube)

As for the power
I guess(again)The can 9000 thing u mention is a filter?
If so
I am sure i read a few days back that the filter does not result in a lot of suction loss(Tho not sure if i did even read that)*grins*



Strectchpuppy
Thats a nice neat set up m8,.I like the look of that*smileS*
 
G

Guest

this thread is pimp shit! in a good way. :pimp3:

tunefull, nice shots what strain ya got?

stretch, looks good man hows it goin?

hey darrin, if you've got a cooltube, you should try a v-scrog, or maybe try something like what -ezra- is doing (holla!). he inspired me to change my closet up a bit. should make for some fat glistening happiness!

i just trained these ladies. the one closest on the left is a different strain, and it's a monster! so i had to tie a few tips over. gonna be crowded in there again! switching to 12/12 just today, the clusterfuck begins once again!

 

Tunefull

Active member
The ones in the pic were afghani(was a lovely smoke)
I done 3 harvests latelty tho just NL....Is nice but gone back to Afghani this grow(well got some NL outdoors still)and trying some new strains(AK-48 and cali Orange)all about 6 weeks away tho*FRowns*

Should be a nice choice come Harvest day tho...
 

darrinjefferson

Active member
well everyone i got just about everything i need to make build my cab. i also have decided that because its so easy and so much cheaper i am going to make a DIY cooltube and DIY carbon scrubber. i juust picked up my cooltube also from the local craft store for $5.97


should work out real nice.
also my girlfriend is going to help me paint the outside and give it a cool antique look for stealth. we are going to take trim and put it on it to make it look like real furniture. should be a fun project.
i hope it will be up and running mid august. well thats it for now. later
 

Trev

Active member
question for you 400 watt guys.

im lookin to get my 400 watt up an running again.. only got half way through a grow with mine before it became a security issue an i needed to take it down.

how much yall yeilden off your 400watters? what technique?
im thinkin im gunna go with SOG
my space is roughly, 3 wide by 2 foot deep by 4 foot tall.

just lookin to see what yall are yielden i know circumstances change with different grows and so on, just want something to aim for.
 
B

Buffoonman

My space is only 3*3. I find using a net (scrog) gives the best yield. Its a lot easier weaving the plants in and out of a net than tying branches down. It achieves the same result thats utilising all the space. I normally get around twelve ounces in this space with a 400W HPS with expanded spectrum bulb. Removing immature growth uner the canopy puts all the plants energy intyo the top colas. I use the stuff below the net for cuttings.
 

Suby

**AWD** Aficianado
Veteran
Trev said:
question for you 400 watt guys.

im lookin to get my 400 watt up an running again.. only got half way through a grow with mine before it became a security issue an i needed to take it down.

how much yall yeilden off your 400watters? what technique?
im thinkin im gunna go with SOG
my space is roughly, 3 wide by 2 foot deep by 4 foot tall.

just lookin to see what yall are yielden i know circumstances change with different grows and so on, just want something to aim for.

with a small cab grow it's more about the square footagte than than the watts as far as yield, i average 1/2 gram per watt is a similar space with a medium yielding strain.

SOG is not really effective in a small space IMHO, i would use a topped and trained plant with a large container instead, your a little short on height so use a low but wide container, more soil means more roots means more bud.
 

FatalGrows

New member
Grapefruit X Nev Haze - 400 watt HPS

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Hey, Fatal. She's looking very good. The X-line from FMS has some really nice strains. I just finished growing the WWxBB. Good stuff.
Best of luck on your grow. :cool:
 
G

Guest

Hey Fatal, isn't that girl a little tall for a 400 watt... All of those little branches at the bottom getting little, to no light at all... But if your into popcorn nuggs, then you are well on you way... Unless of course you have an idea for some side lighting....
 
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