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wildgrow always with the crystals
But theyre my favorite pics to take. I love the lighting in the close ups and the way the loupe blurs the edges.
I hate to say it Gelado but snow has been forcasted for the overnight.
My best OD holes are now lost forever. My secret field has been pierced from both ends.
There there, me. Still have the secondary location, but it needs some work and time is running short.Ive got an out too as far as P goes. More later.
sorry to hear bout the sercurity breach at the od spot ,,whatevea you do keep it sake wild
Sake... yuck!
So heres a leaf pic. Leaf gets brown spots, yellows until there are only brown and green spots. Sometimes a section will go crispy. It could be the tips, a band across a leaflet or one side of the fan as a whole. They snap off at the lightest touch. The leaf stem is green and plump at the break, but you can see the rest is crimson.
PC #2 has nannered.
As far as getting out - P wants me to start growing for his dad to make him tinctures and edibles. We don't have the space, not so much in bud as in veg. What it comes down to is more work, still paying 1/2 of the expendables and having nothing to show for it - except maybe a warm fuzzy feeling. I have other ways of getting that
It also means rearranging the room - again... I don't wanna!!! So Im waiting to get him alone to tell him that at the end of June Im done.
I wont be able to stay perpetual, but Ill enjoy growing again - and that's worth a load of fat sacks.
I dont know how I missed this thread man, damn! Here now, lol.
Beautiful pictures man, loving it!
Beautiful pictures man, loving it!
Very frank talk with P last night. We're moving the bud room out of the cellar part of the basement - if that makes sense. Im going to build a completely new room from the floor up, away from the drafty door and the sump pit. Im still suspicious that there may be a fungus or mold spore coming from the pit and it wasnt just a ph problem.
Gonna switch up nutes too. Right now we're heavily leaning towards AN grow, micro, bloom. It uses their ph perfect tech so I shouldnt have to worry about that anymore. Even though Ive got that figuerd out now (feeding at 7.2), I tire of the measuring-adjusting-measuring.
Right now the happiest plant is BS 2.2 #1 and it just so happens to be the farthest from the pit... hmmm?
Bodacious pine pheno - It was close to the pit and lost 1/2 its leaves. I moved it away and shes starting to pick up.
Power Cheese #1 is in flush - probably 2 weeks to go. Its been a rollercoaster for her. At least Ill get a jar full from her. Its been 4 or 5 plants since thats happened.
Gonna switch up nutes too. Right now we're heavily leaning towards AN grow, micro, bloom. It uses their ph perfect tech so I shouldnt have to worry about that anymore. Even though Ive got that figuerd out now (feeding at 7.2), I tire of the measuring-adjusting-measuring.
Right now the happiest plant is BS 2.2 #1 and it just so happens to be the farthest from the pit... hmmm?
Bodacious pine pheno - It was close to the pit and lost 1/2 its leaves. I moved it away and shes starting to pick up.
Power Cheese #1 is in flush - probably 2 weeks to go. Its been a rollercoaster for her. At least Ill get a jar full from her. Its been 4 or 5 plants since thats happened.
Funny you should suggest GH flora, LyryC did too. Why do you guys recommend that over AN? GH states that ph'ing is still needed but I think theyre talking res use. As far as I can tell, ph'ing isnt needed with AN.
Ive emailed both with very similar qs. And I let them know that I emailed the other. Maybe Ill get free samples! Heres the AN email - of course I made some changes in the other 1.
Staff,
Im looking to change my nutrient regime from Fox Farm to either your grow, micro, bloom or GenHydros flora. Both products are ph buffered. Although GH's states that the ph still needs to be measured at the outset as it will drift. Im sure they are referring to use in a reservoir, however I use Promix.
Does the ph still need to be measured when using your product or will I be able to say goodbye to my Bluelab? I need to know why I should choose your product over theirs.
Also GH claims that theirs can be tweaked into unlimited combinations. How much tweaking can yours take? Is it even necessary to worry about with the ph perfect tech? Can I screw it up with 1 ml more/less of this or that?
Fair warning - Im sending a similarly worded email to GH asking the same questions. Best answer (ie. most clear and concise without marketing talk) wins my business.
Thank you
Ive emailed both with very similar qs. And I let them know that I emailed the other. Maybe Ill get free samples! Heres the AN email - of course I made some changes in the other 1.
Staff,
Im looking to change my nutrient regime from Fox Farm to either your grow, micro, bloom or GenHydros flora. Both products are ph buffered. Although GH's states that the ph still needs to be measured at the outset as it will drift. Im sure they are referring to use in a reservoir, however I use Promix.
Does the ph still need to be measured when using your product or will I be able to say goodbye to my Bluelab? I need to know why I should choose your product over theirs.
Also GH claims that theirs can be tweaked into unlimited combinations. How much tweaking can yours take? Is it even necessary to worry about with the ph perfect tech? Can I screw it up with 1 ml more/less of this or that?
Fair warning - Im sending a similarly worded email to GH asking the same questions. Best answer (ie. most clear and concise without marketing talk) wins my business.
Thank you
I'm dying to see what AN scribbles up as a response!
Well put email.
Sorry about the pit - causing a PITA.
So what exactly enveloped with the P? now your making a sealed in the cellar? Still running his show? I hope you aren't being blackmailed or anything brother.
what was feeding the pit ?runoff ,sewage ?
The pit is the sump pump well. Big deal, right? Only problem is that it was put in after some number of times of that area being under 2 feet of water. Theres a concrete knee-wall that I have to step over that was part of the original bulkhead before an addition was put on the house. So, the add was built and eventually the pit was dug. Yes, dug. They hammered through the concrete floor into the dirt below. Then they drilled holes in a bucket and stuck it in the hole in the floor. Long story longer - if I pulled the pump and bucket, I could plant in dirt. If I stick my finger in 1 of those bucket holes, it goes into wet earth. They didnt pour a basin for the pump - just kept the dirt back with a hole-filled bucket. Any number of microorganisms/pathogens could be living in there. The water gets in through the shitty, hand poured bulkhead and wells up from underground. Its only been dry once since this little adventure started.
Have no worries bro, nobodys fucking me. I basically told him that I was ready to move on and that he should tell Mr the budding will be done by the end of June. P said he didnt want Mr in there.
Sounds cruel, but I was happy to hear the distress in Ps voice. I said now you know how Ive been feeling for weeks. He got all crazy for a few - turn off the lights, kill everything, start over, buy cheap fem seeds for dummies - one extreme to another with him. He actually said we have to get rid of SLH and Bodacious because theyre too difficult for me to grow. Because he never had this problem in that space before - and - youve (Ive) only grown a couple of plants so how would you know anything, really? I almost blew my top. Instead I said - Listen. How do you know you didnt have this issue? There was a 2 year long spidermite infestation in there. Maybe you did have this problem but the last guy couldnt see it. He was pulling sickly, piddly plants out too before he gave up. The infestation could have been masking any other problem.
My mindset is - eliminate the variables, the weak links, the uncontrollables. Then if things are still going bad, its me. Ill get a helmet to wear around the house.
Sorry to ask again, but why GH over AN?
Oh, I toyed with the idea of splitting the new room into 2 smaller rooms. Kinda get away from being truly perpetual but having the spaces running 4-5 weeks apart. That way when 1 side is done I can clean it real good and still have the other running undisturbed. I dont like the idea of trimming for a week straight, but the idea of losing every plant I like even less. Id work 1 room per night to minimize cross contamination.
EDIT: As far as running his show - sort of - but Im rewriting the script. New room, new nutes, same bat shit crazy channel.
2nd EDIT: Wow! How in the hell did I manage 7 5 star votes for this shipwreck?
Its beyond me.
Have no worries bro, nobodys fucking me. I basically told him that I was ready to move on and that he should tell Mr the budding will be done by the end of June. P said he didnt want Mr in there.
Sounds cruel, but I was happy to hear the distress in Ps voice. I said now you know how Ive been feeling for weeks. He got all crazy for a few - turn off the lights, kill everything, start over, buy cheap fem seeds for dummies - one extreme to another with him. He actually said we have to get rid of SLH and Bodacious because theyre too difficult for me to grow. Because he never had this problem in that space before - and - youve (Ive) only grown a couple of plants so how would you know anything, really? I almost blew my top. Instead I said - Listen. How do you know you didnt have this issue? There was a 2 year long spidermite infestation in there. Maybe you did have this problem but the last guy couldnt see it. He was pulling sickly, piddly plants out too before he gave up. The infestation could have been masking any other problem.
My mindset is - eliminate the variables, the weak links, the uncontrollables. Then if things are still going bad, its me. Ill get a helmet to wear around the house.
Sorry to ask again, but why GH over AN?
Oh, I toyed with the idea of splitting the new room into 2 smaller rooms. Kinda get away from being truly perpetual but having the spaces running 4-5 weeks apart. That way when 1 side is done I can clean it real good and still have the other running undisturbed. I dont like the idea of trimming for a week straight, but the idea of losing every plant I like even less. Id work 1 room per night to minimize cross contamination.
EDIT: As far as running his show - sort of - but Im rewriting the script. New room, new nutes, same bat shit crazy channel.
2nd EDIT: Wow! How in the hell did I manage 7 5 star votes for this shipwreck?
Its beyond me.
Not even considering AN anymore - no response at all. Obviously they dont give a shit. GH did, but said to call and talk to a sales rep. Ehh, I wanted to avoid talking to someone whose job it is to convince people to buy.
Now I dont know which GH regiment to use. I did something I dont do and looked to youtube. Found this dude who has used all their lines in both hydro and soil for peppers and pot. He claims that he got his best results with floranova when in soil. Anyone have an opinion or any thoughts on this? 1 veg base bottle, 1 bud base bottle - add in a bloom booster, silica, ph booster when needed and calmag if its needed.
I dont know - sounds pretty good, maybe too good.
Remember the StrawDs I popped? They had stalled for a long time but theyve finally started growing again. Yippee!
I put 5 Vitality #1s in water, then tucked em in a damp coffee filter and then planted them 2 days ago. 4 broke soil and the 5th looks like its pushing up on the dirt. Yippee again!I used a filter so I wouldnt have to hold the seeds back as I dumped the water from the glass - worked out awesomely. The filter doesnt hold excess moisture like a pt does.
Vitality is, if I remember correctly, Kali Mist f7 x Flo f7.
Talk to CocoNutz.
He runs GH Flora Micro and Flora Bloom at 6ml micro 9ml bloom. Adds silica uptill certain point at bloom. No additives except sm90 for the bugs and just gotta ph the stuff.
Heres the links that he shared - one is of the 6/9 method Rezdog f==The Recipe==
This one is about coco H3ad goes Coco
hydro - coco man - best results - and FUCK advanced nutrients. They aren't professional.
good news about your plants! there was so much vitality on the Bay - is its S_A_H's cross?
No way to seal your sump pump area temporarily for grows?
He runs GH Flora Micro and Flora Bloom at 6ml micro 9ml bloom. Adds silica uptill certain point at bloom. No additives except sm90 for the bugs and just gotta ph the stuff.
Heres the links that he shared - one is of the 6/9 method Rezdog f==The Recipe==
This one is about coco H3ad goes Coco
hydro - coco man - best results - and FUCK advanced nutrients. They aren't professional.
good news about your plants!
there was so much vitality on the Bay - is its S_A_H's cross? No way to seal your sump pump area temporarily for grows?
Thanks for the links brother. I did check them out, but to be brutally honest P doesnt handle change well and coco wont be happening as long as Im growing for him. I knew it was going to be difficult to get him to try a new nute system and Im shocked that he agreed to building a new room. Its usually baby steps with him and I already got him to jump twice (thrice if you count getting him to let me vert 1/2 the room), so Im not going to push coco on him. I will put it out there in disguised and subtle ways though. If I can make him think that he came up with a change to coco...
4 V #1s are up! So fast - gotta love humid warm air for popping. Thanks spring!
Vs story is a long one, so long that Im not completely clear on it. I believe there were 3 hands in bringing it to life - Mr Alkaline, Elevator Man and S_a_H. S_a_Hs being the last. I think he did all the seed production as well as the crosses. I do know Mr A was trying to recreate, or maybe decreate is a better word, the HOG of old. Im not clear on E mans contribution. I just remember Mr A thanking him.
I had ordered V #1 and the Choco Thai cross and also received V #3 and the White cross, as my payment went missing. There were tons of them on the Bay. I cant remember if they ever got relisted or ended up going out as freebies.
The big selling point for me was Mr A's passion and tenacity in this endeavor. It took years to come to fruition. More breeding and selection went into this than most anything else on the market. Ace and Cannabiogen are the only seed houses that instantly come to my mind in relation to the work put into making a strain. Many of their offerings are on my wish list - even if they arent 'seeds for dummies'.
Back to the grow. If I could seal off the pit, I would. Doing that would give us a wading pool instead of a grow room. Im not about to excavate the bulkhead and slather on gallons of gooey sealant. If the landlord handled the water problem correctly in the 1st place there wouldnt be a pit at all. But, thats what they chose to do 30 years ago and thats all theyve done. Im not going to make an investment in the well being of their property if they dont give a shit about it themselves.
Any other suggestions for nute packages? Ill entertain just about anything so long as it doesnt take 10 bottles and big $.
Oh Oh Oh! P Cheese #1 is starting to get some purp on!
4 V #1s are up! So fast - gotta love humid warm air for popping. Thanks spring!
Vs story is a long one, so long that Im not completely clear on it. I believe there were 3 hands in bringing it to life - Mr Alkaline, Elevator Man and S_a_H. S_a_Hs being the last. I think he did all the seed production as well as the crosses. I do know Mr A was trying to recreate, or maybe decreate is a better word, the HOG of old. Im not clear on E mans contribution. I just remember Mr A thanking him.
I had ordered V #1 and the Choco Thai cross and also received V #3 and the White cross, as my payment went missing. There were tons of them on the Bay. I cant remember if they ever got relisted or ended up going out as freebies.
The big selling point for me was Mr A's passion and tenacity in this endeavor. It took years to come to fruition. More breeding and selection went into this than most anything else on the market. Ace and Cannabiogen are the only seed houses that instantly come to my mind in relation to the work put into making a strain. Many of their offerings are on my wish list - even if they arent 'seeds for dummies'.
Back to the grow. If I could seal off the pit, I would. Doing that would give us a wading pool instead of a grow room. Im not about to excavate the bulkhead and slather on gallons of gooey sealant. If the landlord handled the water problem correctly in the 1st place there wouldnt be a pit at all. But, thats what they chose to do 30 years ago and thats all theyve done. Im not going to make an investment in the well being of their property if they dont give a shit about it themselves.
Any other suggestions for nute packages? Ill entertain just about anything so long as it doesnt take 10 bottles and big $.
Oh Oh Oh! P Cheese #1 is starting to get some purp on!
Didnt mean to skip over you. What exactly would the radon be gassing off of, G? Could part of it be toxic gasses effecting the girls? Geez, did I build a kill room? The Fates misinterpreted my desire for a killer bud room.
I may have covered this already - I had read that Promix HP and BX contain some supplemental nutrients and I wondered if their orangish bales (with perlite) did too. I never got a solid answer, but im going with yes. I basically made my own using Premiers (the company behind Promix) peat. It looks exactly the same except for the consistency of the peat. Its much finer than Promix and doesnt hold together the same way. Im finding that I need to add a dash of calmag in veg now - never had to before. Ill be buying Promix and amending the way I used to and hopefully that will help too.
Just up potted BS #3 and have another 'big' MM ready to bud. I did manage to save SLH - thought she was going to be lost, so happy she lives on.
I know its not enough to not feed the girls, but I thought it was interesting that I never needed calmag until I went to their straight peat.
Ive decided to go back to Promix which Ill amend with at least 8 gals of perlite - over time becoming more of a 50/50 mix. More aeration, faster dry time. Id like to find the right balance so that Im watering every 2 days. Pair that with GH micro and bloom ala Lucas and the addition of Floralicious bloom (I think), as well as silica. That should get me back on track to Budville.
Get this: Someone stops by to visit P, another grower, and tells him how his lights are set now - bulb hanging vertically under an 'umbrella' reflector. "Dude, thats vert! (Not quite, I know, but ya gotta start somewhere.) Only differences are no reflector, bulb lowered amongst the plants without a plant directly underneath."
We are going to do 2 small rooms 1000 w apiece in the new space. There will be no air exchange between the 2 spaces. Ill be running all the ducting, with splitters, between the floor joists above. Rerouting the 220 to the hort side (pass-thrus in the ceiling with rubber seals), 20 amp 110 to each room for fans and the like, 6 inch powered intake with 4 inch passives for each 1/2 (probably at floor level), 6 inch powered exhaust.
Heres to the future! It will be bright - now if it can just be fruitful too.
Ive decided to go back to Promix which Ill amend with at least 8 gals of perlite - over time becoming more of a 50/50 mix. More aeration, faster dry time. Id like to find the right balance so that Im watering every 2 days. Pair that with GH micro and bloom ala Lucas and the addition of Floralicious bloom (I think), as well as silica. That should get me back on track to Budville.
Get this: Someone stops by to visit P, another grower, and tells him how his lights are set now - bulb hanging vertically under an 'umbrella' reflector. "Dude, thats vert! (Not quite, I know, but ya gotta start somewhere.) Only differences are no reflector, bulb lowered amongst the plants without a plant directly underneath."
We are going to do 2 small rooms 1000 w apiece in the new space. There will be no air exchange between the 2 spaces. Ill be running all the ducting, with splitters, between the floor joists above. Rerouting the 220 to the hort side (pass-thrus in the ceiling with rubber seals), 20 amp 110 to each room for fans and the like, 6 inch powered intake with 4 inch passives for each 1/2 (probably at floor level), 6 inch powered exhaust.
Heres to the future! It will be bright - now if it can just be fruitful too.
