4 Golden Tiger 2nd version (rotten smelling pheno) x Panama Goddess (F10)

[dubi]

Hi Tony21,

Thanks for the updates. Your description of their terpenes sounds dangerous!

I would keep the feeding strong until they start to show signs of ripening.
I see some rare sings on the upper main leaves. Are the tops of the colas too close to the lamps ? What's the ph on your waterings and feedings ?

 

[Tony21]

Hi Tony21,

Thanks for the updates. Your description of their terpenes sounds dangerous!

I would keep the feeding strong until they start to show signs of ripening.
I see some rare sings on the upper main leaves. Are the tops of the colas too close to the lamps ? What's the ph on your waterings and feedings ?

Hey Dubi
Yep, some of the tops got too close to the lights, it's not related to feeding. it's light burn to a few fan leaves, they just get snipped off. There's no damage to the buds.
I have to confess I am haven't measured pH for years, but I believe it's in the 6,3 - 6,5 range.
There's a box somewhere with plenty high-end meters, but it'll take a dedicated archeological team and even if successful, there would no doubt be operational issues lol. Never met a pH meter I trusted over time, and as for calibrating the darned things.... Even trusting the calibration fluids....!

I use my eyes and the plants usually tell me if there's any trouble.

Thanks for the feed tip, I'm keeping it strong for now. They're showing the first signs of ripening and I'm starting to believe they'll actually be ready in just 10 weeks or so, pics tomorrow.

I'm impressed with this cross, plants are very uniform, respond well to all manner of training and pruning, yield looks promising too

 

[Tony21]

Day 54 in flower

Getting closer to harvest

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[Tony21]

Some buds

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[dubi]

Hi Tony,

The fact some of the leaves in the middle part of the plants are also showing the problem, makes me believe it has something to do with the ph or feeding (or both), so i think it is worth to invest in a digital ph and ec meter for upcoming grows, it's late to correct it now in this cycle with the plants facing their last third stage of flowerig. Nonetheless, the flowers look great, big and fat and i'm sure they will provide epic effects

 

[Tony21]

Hi Tony,

The fact some of the leaves in the middle part of the plants are also showing the problem, makes me believe it has something to do with the ph or feeding (or both), so i think it is worth to invest in a digital ph and ec meter for upcoming grows, it's late to correct it now in this cycle with the plants facing their last third stage of flowerig. Nonetheless, the flowers look great, big and fat and i'm sure they will provide epic effects

Hey Dubi

Thanks for the kind words, yep, buds are looking good.

As mentioned, I do have all the high dollar measuring devices, Hanna, Bluelab, Adwa..... but with my setup and stable tap water they're not worth the hassle.

I think what you're seeing is mild light burn/senescence and it do look worse on the pics than in situ lol



Day 63 in flower

Very nice development, they are almost ready, they'll get another week before making way for 2 killer Malawi that's vegged for 8 weeks.

Still feeding full strength

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[Tony21]

Some bud shots, just starting to turn milky and still shooting out pistils

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[dubi]

Really nice looking flowers Tony

Those last pics sure have the look, dense flowering structure, the pistils, and high resin production of Panama Goddess mother.
I think she will be done once she matures this last wave of fresh pistils so maybe it's a good idea to stop the strong feeding and start with the flushing.

 

[Tony21]

Really nice looking flowers Tony

Those last pics sure have the look, dense flowering structure, the pistils, and high resin production of Panama Goddess mother.
I think she will be done once she matures this last wave of fresh pistils so maybe it's a good idea to stop the strong feeding and start with the flushing.

Thank you, yeop, they do stick in the eye, don't they lol


I always feed to the end, I always feed the end. Don't think flushingdoes anything but depriving the plants of food. Don't think it's possible to remove a single molecule of whatever people are flushing for. There certainly no science to back it up, just perceptions and old legends, methinks!
I've never had anyone tell me my buds needed a good wash, quite the opposite in fact, but then again, I tell the punters what they want to hear and they seem very pleased either way!

Anyways, flush or not, the first Golden Panamanian Tiger was slain today, after 42 days of flower and 68 days of flowering, hard stinky buds, actually they reek haha, some visual evidence

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The other 3 will go down the next couple of days.... More to follow

 

[dubi]

Hi Tony,

First of all, congrats on your harvest and thank you very much for exploring this new pure sativa hybrid from our R+D section.
GT x Panama will be released as limited edition next year for our 15th anniversary so more growers can access more widely this superlative sativa.

I usually recommend to growers to do a flush to their plants prior to harvest to make sure they get a healthy and natural tasting harvest as much as possible, especially when the feeding has been very strong.

I have experienced harsh metallic tastes when overfeeding (both organically and chemically) my plants in the past, otherwise i wouldn't recommend to do it. It's a fact that plants store nutrients that are not being used, and those nutrients can give a really bad taste to the final harvest if the plants didn't use them all, or if they were not correctly flushed. I'm not saying my point of view is the only valid, i just want to make sure to recommend to growers what i think is best, based on my personal first hand experiences with our beloved plant.

Anyway, the most important thing is that you are happy with the outcome of your grow.
Excited to know your first impressions with your harvest!

 

[BirdManFlyHigh]

Hey Dubi

Thanks for the kind words, yep, buds are looking good.

As mentioned, I do have all the high dollar measuring devices, Hanna, Bluelab, Adwa..... but with my setup and stable tap water they're not worth the hassle.

I think what you're seeing is mild light burn/senescence and it do look worse on the pics than in situ lol



Day 63 in flower

Very nice development, they are almost ready, they'll get another week before making way for 2 killer Malawi that's vegged for 8 weeks.

Still feeding full strength

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What and how much are you feeding?

 

[HillBillyAlien]

Thank you, yeop, they do stick in the eye, don't they lol


I always feed to the end, I always feed the end. Don't think flushingdoes anything but depriving the plants of food. Don't think it's possible to remove a single molecule of whatever people are flushing for. There certainly no science to back it up, just perceptions and old legends, methinks!
I've never had anyone tell me my buds needed a good wash, quite the opposite in fact, but then again, I tell the punters what they want to hear and they seem very pleased either way!

Anyways, flush or not, the first Golden Panamanian Tiger was slain today, after 42 days of flower and 68 days of flowering, hard stinky buds, actually they reek haha, some visual evidence

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The other 3 will go down the next couple of days.... More to follow

Whats the effects like off this strain?

 

[dubi]

Hi Tony

Hope you are having a great start of 2020!
What's your opinion about your Golden Tiger x Panama harvest ?
Do you like the outcome ? Curious to know your opinion. Best wishes!

 

[repuk]

Indoors

Indoors

I missed there was a thread for Golden Tiger x Panama!

I've run this lady twice from a single fem seed, first indoors, took a couple clones while training her for the indoor, that were flowered outdoors afterwards.


Indoor:
Grown in Coco + 100% Salts + RO Water, EC=0.7-0.9 throughout all grow

Disregard the two bottom red buds, those are from a neighbouring Red Sapphire.

 

[repuk]

Outdoors

Outdoors

Clones were hastily taken with what I had on hand at that moment; had to remove a branch in the way for horizontal repotting; did so, then split it in half, removed with my hands the bottom leaves, threw a couple handfuls of coco on the bottom of a small pot, added some water straight from the reservoir adding some more RO on top, and stuck the two pieces in there, putting the pot underneath the plants so that it didn't get direct light, and kept it there (all plants vegging @18/6). They not only rooted but leaves were almost intact when they started to grow.

Talk about hybrid vigor...

When were brought outdoors they grew at a crazy pace..

06-25-2019

07-22-2019

08-15-2019 Just repotted into 200L/50Gal pots prior to flower

16-09-2019 Mid Flower
Each clone grew into a plant that was like 6 plants fusioned in one, 2,5meters/8feet:

Budding Detail

 

[repuk]

Details

Details

Same bud, a week after:

Grow Care Log
They were grown in quality spaghnum peat based soil, ammended with leonardite, bat guano and some diatomaceous earth; used BioBloom generously in mid-final flower, this is a really hoggish hybrid!.

Watered with 90% RO, only ammendment was some baking soda to bring up the PH on the worst summer heat periods.

Sprayed them thoroughly three or four times before flowering, just as they stretched: used hidrogen peroxide, potash soap, neem oil and tea tree essence oil. Had zero pests; I saw the occassional bug bite marks or lurkers, but they either didn't progress or went elsewere; also found a lone cottonet hidden on a branch at harvest time, but the branch was perfectly healthy.

Check my Outdoor thread for exact details.

Outdoors the foxtailing wasn't so extreme, but yielded a bumper crop of huge colas full of egg sized flower clusters, full of resin.

Smoke Report:

Aroma: Buds reek and taste to fizzy fermented lemon with a strong hazey (incense) touch. They're extremely sticky, you end up with a small ball of finger hash just by grinding and rolling a joint... requires constant cleaning of the grinder after a couple grams!

Smoke: Thick, deliciously spicy smoke. A plant that benefits a lot from longer cures.

High Slightly creeper, but once sets in, high provides instant well-being, mood levelling, euphoric, positive and active effect, with no hangover nor sleepiness (unless you indulge too much!). Wonderful energy rushes/waves of pure joy.

Effect also adds-up, which is great as due to her aroma you find having more and more of her...

High Potency, but also suitable (with moderation) for low tolerance people, which will laugh their *sses hard for sure after a few spliff tokes.