matt11
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word! I knew it. Every time I see him in a video promoting GHS or at the cannabis cup he just oozes slimeball to me, the same goes for his buddies at strain hunters. Although I did like their flowerbomb kush I ran last year
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33% thc ????
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word! I knew it. Every time I see him in a video promoting GHS or at the cannabis cup he just oozes slimeball to me, the same goes for his buddies at strain hunters. Although I did like their flowerbomb kush I ran last year
an ogcd cut we got from rebel grown always hits over 28 and a grower in san jose just hit 31.8 with it indoor under 600s using bio buzz as a feed. sc was the testing lab. green walrus is the growers business. I've seen the cut hit over 25 in 50 days indoor hydro. some plants just have a bigger cannabinoid basket...
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Benjamin Franklin has certain persuasive powers over these numbers at certain labs.
The highest thc content is just a pissing contest really isn't it? Isn't what's more imporant the effect from all the terpenes and cannabinoids in different ratios to give the desired effect for the end user? I may be wrong but wouldn't it be better to have 12% thc with levels of terpenes and cannabinoids that give you the effect you desire than to have high thc content or just focus or 3-4 compounds instead of the whole spectrum? I have ever indulged in anything tested for these levels, but the ones I enjoyed more didn't appear to have extremely high thc, but that's anecdotal evidence which is pretty much worthless which is why I pose the question.
Hits over 28 what? Gorillas, bananas, people in his car on the way to work?
These statements mean nothing without qualifying whether you are talking about THC-A or THC.
It really goes to show that Limeygreen's point is very true, people are just chasing numbers without even considering what the numbers mean.
If I say I am driving 150, do you know if I am driving Km/h, MPH, or feet per second? You aren't measuring/reporting anything if you aren't including the units. 31.8 means absolutely nothing without the context of units. Otherwise you are simply chasing high numbers, a clearly pointless, meaningless and futile pursuit.
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SC Labs tests cannabinoid profiles using HPLC, so this number likely represents THC-A content which makes sense for a well grown quality OG.
Using the formula clearly outlined on the first page:
% of THC Total = % of THC + (% of THCA x 0,877).
The 0.877 comes from the formula of
Molecular weight of THC/ Molecular weight of THC-A
This means that the maximum potential THC is (31.8)(87.7)= 27.8886 THC potential maximum, if 100% decarboxylation were to occur without any degradation.
People need to start understanding the numbers on the tests and always include the units. Otherwise you are just chasing high numbers for the point of high numbers.
or it doesn't really mater if its 28 or 30% thc-a or thc since those numbers are extreme outliers anyway. When your average dope still tests 12-15% when you see something that is double on a piece of equipment it makes you take notice. Since there's no standardization between the labs all you got to really go off is comparing it to other tests run on the same device.
I'll let the nerds figure out those exact details, i can tell by reading chromotrgraphs and hashing plants the relative resin content. High resin plants are great for extracts, and counting milligrams; your average person isn't going to be that impressed with smoking a lot of the highest testing stuff I've seen.
I'll let the nerds figure out those exact details, i can tell by reading chromotrgraphs and hashing plants the relative resin content. High resin plants are great for extracts, and counting milligrams; your average person isn't going to be that impressed with smoking a lot of the highest testing stuff I've seen.
Chimera is on point, without proper wording its all a big ?
Education wise I believe its a huge factor, to learn people about it in the right way, especially for those who might not be green fingered or has past experience with use.
Yes ECS are different from people to people, but its important to have a "guideline" like units in alcohol for instance.
Education wise I believe its a huge factor, to learn people about it in the right way, especially for those who might not be green fingered or has past experience with use.
Yes ECS are different from people to people, but its important to have a "guideline" like units in alcohol for instance.
"High resin" isnt necessarily high THC, THC-A, CBD, etc.
High terp content is very desirable.
Isn't that what we want? Terpins & cannabinoids?
Your spot on w only being able to compare tests from the same equipment. How many different testing protocols are there & how do they differ from one another?
An answer isnt necessary as I think it would take a text book to explain them all sufficiently. I am interested, however.
thanks for the input esp chimera..yeehaw...
JohnKimble
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I don't understand what it actually means saying a plant is x% of thc. Do they just scrap off trichomes and test that to get the number? The whole bud can't be such a high number.
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at least from my understanding cannabinoids like thc and cbd etc are only produced in the trichome so a higher density of "resin" should correlate to a higher number. Its been in my experience that the higher yielding strains seem to have a similar flavor, it could be a correlation between similar genetics or just similar or lack of terpenes.
A lot of time the herb that doesn't have the most frost or look the best tastes the best.
i would have to dig up some notes but in the past took notes when making oil and then making edibles. You can sort of standardize your process where your activated oil is always the same number within 2-3% so with some math you can figure out actual milligram yields and 25% active thc is possible.
it's all about cannabs and terps, yo 
strictly talking semantics here, but when people speak of "total cannabinoids" why would the carboxyl groups not be included? afaik the acid forms are still cannabinoids. if i were to take sublingual or transdermal acid forms wouldn't the dosage measurement have to take the carboxyl groups into consideration?
strictly talking semantics here, but when people speak of "total cannabinoids" why would the carboxyl groups not be included? afaik the acid forms are still cannabinoids. if i were to take sublingual or transdermal acid forms wouldn't the dosage measurement have to take the carboxyl groups into consideration?
looking at some notes, i see wifi and its crosses and the glue near the top of the list in terms of yields when making oil. There's a few pieces of data missing that would give a more complete picture. First off everything's a single pass extraction and there are no numbers of a combo of both trim and flower. There seems to be a correlation with trim yields and nug yields for overall potency but if you account for the total mass of the plant then your numbers will prob drop to 20% or below. Good trim seems to yeild as much as decent bud 10-15% and then some og/sour/modern hash plant varieties being 18-20% with the flowers of those variety's hitting 25-28%
the material could be rerun once or twice more for another probably 3-5% yield.
now this is where there is no standardization, i've seen high quality oils test from anywhere at 70% active cannabinoids on a gc to 85%+ acidic cannabinoids on a hplc.
So lets just say we got 110 grams of oil from a pound of starting material on 1 pass. for a little bit more of a 24% yield. This is very doable. Now thats say you where to activate that oil for edibles or an rso type product. From years of testing from myself and others i consistently see 79-82% active cananbinoids with this process, so if we take the average of 81% and weigh the after decarb process you can get a rough estimate of mg content. With losses etc your going to loose anywhere from 7-20grams and thats going to depend on moisture, terpene and lipid content of your oils if you winterize them. Lets just say we are left with 100grams post decarb at 81% active your talking 81000mg of cannabinoids. you started with 454,000 of raw botanical, that concentrated to 100,000mg of oil that tests at 81,000mg so by those numbers your looking at close to 18% by weight of trimmed flower. A single pass is only going to extract about 90% of the material in the first pass so there's still upward of 2000mg left in the material. for closer to 20% total I guess i dont have a complete data set but there are a few varieties out there that are well suited for this purpose and with some of the more modern extraction methods you should see better numbers then i recorded.
the material could be rerun once or twice more for another probably 3-5% yield.
now this is where there is no standardization, i've seen high quality oils test from anywhere at 70% active cannabinoids on a gc to 85%+ acidic cannabinoids on a hplc.
So lets just say we got 110 grams of oil from a pound of starting material on 1 pass. for a little bit more of a 24% yield. This is very doable. Now thats say you where to activate that oil for edibles or an rso type product. From years of testing from myself and others i consistently see 79-82% active cananbinoids with this process, so if we take the average of 81% and weigh the after decarb process you can get a rough estimate of mg content. With losses etc your going to loose anywhere from 7-20grams and thats going to depend on moisture, terpene and lipid content of your oils if you winterize them. Lets just say we are left with 100grams post decarb at 81% active your talking 81000mg of cannabinoids. you started with 454,000 of raw botanical, that concentrated to 100,000mg of oil that tests at 81,000mg so by those numbers your looking at close to 18% by weight of trimmed flower. A single pass is only going to extract about 90% of the material in the first pass so there's still upward of 2000mg left in the material. for closer to 20% total I guess i dont have a complete data set but there are a few varieties out there that are well suited for this purpose and with some of the more modern extraction methods you should see better numbers then i recorded.
Yeah it's not it was government tested that sample. The test for the law. They suck. But they know a lot.
vapeorbong
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cannabs and terps
That makes sense!
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Ic ovo Had a 'card' of a GG#4 @ 32.96%
