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Dan42nepa

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I really didnt like the movie that much but definitely a good movie to get stoned and see. I hate when they change history for dramatic effect. Even though the original historical event was fascinating enough. Its like it was dumbed down for the public.
 

J0sh1

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I watched it. It was stupid as hell, don't know if anyone else notice but with all the copious amount of killing and bloodshed the Spartans remained VERY clean through out the movie. No blood ever touched them, I noticed it early in the movie and it totally ruined it for me.
 
G

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didnt they historically have blood repelling force fields surrounding them when they battled??...thats what my teacher told me
 

o.gkushowns

18 and Doh!
Ye i didnt feel it either, btw no offense to anyone but i just see this thread as my chance to say that i really didnt feel lord of the rings (any of them). im sorry, i had to get that off my chest.
peace
 

Yummybud

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yeah read my thread on this. I still haven't watched the movie but from the trailer it looks outragous to me (because I have Iranian descent and I'm white), Xerxes was not a bronze skinned, shaved head, hairless guy with piercings and gold covering his entire body.

ancient persians were caucasions like greeks. Also the movie kindof looks like it's anti persian and makes them look like muslim terrorists and monster (they weren't muslims back then if anyone doesn't know).

It's just a movies though so I don't care anymore. I'll watch it soon.

I also kind of find it a big coinsidence that they release this movie in this time of tension between Iran / U.S/ Israel......
 

Yummybud

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so was this better or worse than Sin City?

I loved Sin City mostly because of the scenes with Jessica Alba lol.
 

marx2k

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Im going to say that the reason for no blood stains is that Iranian blood is blended with 16% Teflon. It just rolls right off.

Let's see if this is the case when we begin slaughtering tens of thousands of Iranian citizens. Unfortunately, Iraqi blood has a trivial amount of Teflon in it.
 

Verite

My little pony.. my little pony
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I saw it at one of the Imax theaters.. now thats a huge screen. If you caught any of the directors interviews he said he was staying true to Millers adaptation of the story.

.. no whiners on Xerxes being some ten foot tall?
 

alphacat

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7 slaves to every Spartan

7 slaves to every Spartan

Basically a 2 hour war propaganda piece - at least, to me. Maybe that wasn't the intention, but is it any coincidence that the bad guys were *Persians* and dressed like Muslims despite being set 1000 years before Mohammed?

Or that the king broke their sacred law to defend against the encroachments of the Persian tyrant, the last holdout against the forces of darkness? (This despite the fact that you never saw what made the Persians so nefarious - you just knew they were bad guys because they were either Semitic, Black, and/or mutated/deformed, and/or had their face pierced in weird places). Meanwhile the Spartans, with their Darwinian infant-slaughtering & might-is-right ubermacho drag, aren't really easy to sympathize with because the self-righteous sociopaths don't want or need your sympathy as an audience, they're so f*cking tough! (GRRRR!)

Then you have the greasy lying spineless opportunist politician sub-plot, an obvious jab at anti-war politicians. The timing of the movie - with Bush asking for 20,000 new troops and the looming military expansion into Iran - is suspect. It suddenly calls into question Frank Miller's agenda here, that's for damned sure.

Ironically, Sparta was a total slave state with a 7:1 slave to citizen ratio.

And as far as being "the new Matrix" - eh. Not really. Like someone handed someone else a comic book and said "turn this into a movie that looks like a comic book." Even at that it fails though, because there's too much talking, the violence is so stylized it gets boring, and... the fact is that this was basically a fantasy movie that borrowed elements of an actual historical tale, but very selectively.

Then there were the funny but a little questionable homophobe jokes delivered while wearing leather codpieces and red velvet capes?!?... Are you kidding? I could go on and on.

The floating redhead was alright though. ;)
 
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Yummybud

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yeah Iranians were never of semitic origin, they are indo-european people, farsi is a indo-european language and they are caucasions like southern europeans (genetically), and you're right a lot of people watching this will think the persians were muslims and this is a muslim vs the west war.

I'm not sure if Frank Miller (who is Jewish) just hates persians or if he just wanted to make them look evil for entertainmetn purposes and having a King that looks like a freak is more scarey and entertaining than having him look more like the greek king.

The real Xerxes was not dark skinned, had darker long hair and long beard and he did not have piercings on his face which makes him look mor African in the movie.


Iran (persians) were later attacked by the arabs and Islam was forced on the people or they were slaughtered.



who cares though, most people (at least educated people ) will know that it's just a fictional movie and not a history class so I'm not that pissed anymore.

Even history taught in schools and text books are filled with biases and lies so what do you expect from a hollywood movie.

I'm personally not going to pay to see the movie, I'll download it, I don't want to pay money and make Frank Miller and the guys in hollywood even more rich for making a propoganda film that is a disgrace to 70 million Iranians.
 

Verite

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Funny yumm .. I think some Frank Miller movie is the least thing disgracing the Iranian population at the moment.
 

J0sh1

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o.gkushowns said:
Ye i didnt feel it either, btw no offense to anyone but i just see this thread as my chance to say that i really didnt feel lord of the rings (any of them). im sorry, i had to get that off my chest.
peace


I agree with you, the LOTR movies where a total disaster, Tolkien would had hated it for sure. The books are 10x better. The movie did not do them justice by one bit. Peter Jackson hacked up the story to make it Hollywood-Friendly. I hated that the way the wrote out a few crucial characters and expanded roles for others, like Arwen Evenstar. When I saw FOTR in the cinema I almost threw up when I saw her in the Flight to the Ford instead of Glorfindel. I could go on for hours about what a disaster the LOTR movies where.
 

Tarkus

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Verite said:
I saw it at one of the Imax theaters.. now thats a huge screen.

Did they play Sysyphus Part 1 through the speakers before anything on the screen started playing? They do this all the time at the Imax I go to. Not the rest of Ummagumma, or even Parts 2, 3 and 4. Just Part 1. Oh well, it's great booming through those speakers when I am blazed.
 

kro

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People here who are bitching about Frank Miller have never read his work. He's a brilliant writer and artist. I had fun watching 300 and that's all that matters to me.
 

the protege

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boring plot, fantastic fight scenes! It was eye candy, and that is all I expected. And to the poster talking about lord of the rings, "You must be insane!"

The books were fantastic, but I thought the movies did a good job of portraying the big picture in under 3 hours each. If they were to cover everything in the book, the movies would have been 7-9 hours long.
 

Dan42nepa

Member
actually the history channel had a good show on the battle. Xeres was actually a good ruler. Even though he conquered countrys he let them rule themselves. The 1962 movie was great and was on recently. It stays pretty close to the historical event. Xeres in that movie was a bastard.. lol.. after the second night he killed all the soldiers women so they would want to move onto greece and get more.
 

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