hehe, well I can't say this as if I know something, but I want to rule out the possabilities. Last round I got a lower ratio of tris than I would have expected from a trixtri. I Suspect a quadxbi would give the highest ratio, with quad x tri being the most interesting (see side line lol), but just to rule out the possability of the bi branches from tri plants carrying more bi pollen than tri pollen, I wanted to make sure that all pollen used had the tri genes and not bi genes (even if thats only tri genes turned on rather than off). Although saying that, the trixquad sideline is a quad that reverted, and was cut back to the last quad node, and the bi branch from an old tri sideline father that never got the chance when he was in his prime. I figure that the numbers I get from testing the 2 sets of seeds will let me know which is more important, the area pollen is taken from, or the starting genes of the parent plant as a whole. I realise that using a mother that reverted is not the best ideal, but its only a sideline to play with. Should get a nice number of quads to play with and try to find a couple of stable ones. Then it'll be time for a new thread.