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2K "15" plant organic living soil - 1st grow

Amber Trich

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MGD --cute shoes-- hehe :) ...the garden looks seriously excellent! Im curious about your spacing, did you add more light? nice work!
 

jaykush

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excellent job, the shot with just buckets full of cover crops is a sight unseen to most. and to the others pure nonsense. thanks for taking that step those plants are going to do great.
 
I really like the setup, what did you do for the living mulch?

hi who dat is~ i think its just oat, clover, and some sort of wild pea, all mixed together. *edit* It might be nice to plant something that is also an edible. Most of the mulch needs to stay there for its own intents and purposes, but really wouldn't it be awesome to have some chamomile ganja tea all from the same bucket ? ;) Or just be able to nibble while you work. There are definitely more ideal species than others, but something that's also useful to humans just weaves more farmer~soil~plant symbiosis fabric. I'm hoping to see about making my cover crop next time around more of a friend with benefits ;)

MGD --cute shoes-- hehe :) ...the garden looks seriously excellent! Im curious about your spacing, did you add more light? nice work!

yeah cc1 keeps getting in the way of my pics but he really loves to garden in those shoes so I let him ;) There's another 1K installed for the next flower cycle. I didn't change the spacing at all so far, the extra 1K is perpendicular to and in the middle of the previous two that were set up lengthways with the rows of 5. - l -

I do a mixed spectrum veg and I think mixed spectrum for maybe like 4 weeks into the flower cycle, but right now just 1K MH is on.

The spacing may potentially change depending on how much difference the new bulbs and extra K make... Not sure how much greater of a canopy I'd be dealing with. There's a chance I would change it a bit around future side projects.. Looks like my garden is good to go for a while and I can focus on popping some seeds and bringing some winter greens in to the mix. Kale, lettuce, herbs, radish, things that are easy to grow for now :) I really don't see myself needing to change my configuration much to accomodate any herb or veggie needs tho, as there will be 3 k blasting eventually lol! That's gonna feel like a lot for me heheh. Really looking forward to fresh produce and herbs this winter :)
 
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schwagg

"yeah cc1 keeps getting in the way of my pics but he really loves to garden in those shoes so I let him"


classic shit MGD !!! classic....
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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Wow yeah freaking awesome that green mulch really matches your shoes :smoke:

Do you get blue mould growing under the cut mulch?

I have some chamomile, coriander, clover and a few unknowns springing up in my no-till bed.

:smoweed:
 
Wow yeah freaking awesome that green mulch really matches your shoes :smoke:

Do you get blue mould growing under the cut mulch?

I have some chamomile, coriander, clover and a few unknowns springing up in my no-till bed.

:smoweed:

Hey SS~ heh heh yes looks good doesn't it?

I thought i saw a tiny bit of a bluish mold on some clover leafs but it didn't spread. I would say this cover crop of mine is on the thick side perhaps? I didn't throw away any clippings, everything went right back in, but I wonder if i may have been killing off the undergrowth a bit rapidly with excessive trimmings. And the way I did the last "grooming" of the cover crop was:

cut/manicure cover crop, sweep up cuttings, water, scatter cuttings throughout buckets.

Its cool that the c.crop is encouraging moisture to stay in the pot, but yes, ss, is it also creating a dark stagnent environment for mold? I'm going to have another look today when I water to see if the last watering encouraged any mold growth. I was cutting down so much grass, it seemed like a lot to be throwing on top of growth that I still wanted to keep going for a bit... it survives for now tho, but the first signs of die back are evident...

I think the cover crop is something each farmer has to dial in depending on all of their variables. If you are getting mold, consider the density of your CC. Same air flow principals I guess... now that I think about it! Thanks SS, I did notice a little and will look into it further, and at the least be more aware that this could be an issue each cycle at this time to be looking out for. ~MGD
 

guest2012y

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I'm seeing little blue spores under there as well in my pots,no negative effects so I'm not worried. I'm sure these are naturally occurring fungi decomposers that just found a little niche to exist in...it's just more diversity...right..Jay,anyone?.
 
mine seemed too funky to be good... I just discovered kind of a lot of blue mold. I pulled out a bunch of grass and most of the clippings cause it got moldy super fast. The grass was too thick, it was like a lawn and no air was circulating like it would in clover or chamomile, miner's lettuce, whatever. The grass seems to be competing for the light where something like miner's lettuce would be happier co-existing. It seems as if the scales had just tipped for that particular situation. The grass would probably be better in a smaller dose. The peas and clover were nice, the grass overtook. I got that mold out of there and I'm worried I pulled too many nutrients out of the communities because of all of the extra clippings taken out. I probably should have cut more with scissors as to not disturb the roots of the remaining cover crop, but I couldn't resist the urge to get in there and pull it out once I saw how much was moldy. Kinda feel sick from breathing in all those spores I agitated... ugh.... :flu:
 

who dat is

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Use a neti pot to get all the junk out! I used to have sinus infections once or twice a year, never had another one since I started using my neti pot 3 years ago.
 

guest2012y

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Leave well enough alone....
I'm not going to even consider messing with mine,it's no-till,leave 'em alone...because they will be fine.
Why freak out if the grass was host to a mold....research it first b4 you flush your pots cover crop yo. What kind of mold id it...is it a grass mold..probably..here's a link with some info......
http://www.cityfarmer.org/wheatgrass.html

Blue Mold..may be the same type or not.

http://www.caf.wvu.edu/kearneysville/disease_month/bluemold0199.html

Check this out..research the type of plant and then research the molds that attack it....then research what types are local or introduced.

http://www.sarep.ucdavis.edu/cgi-bin/ccrop.exe/show_crop_12





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all I know is that my kiddo sleeps in the vicinity, and so i'm a little bit overprotective on the mold thing I guess for obvious reasons. There's still a thick cover crop in tact, mostly what I removed was the dead grasses that were moldy, not just under the surface but above as well, making it seem "sporey" in the room. I have all of the material if it needs to go back in. Maybe it was a noob move cc1, but I'm a mom before a grower, you see that shit and its like, get it out of here! Not in to any mold experiments, thanks! ;) It just seemed excessive and too thick for its own good, and we were just talking about it being a concern. I will research it further, so far it seems to be a harmless mold with what I have read so far. But feeling sick is feeling sick... that was ultimately my decision to get it out of the house. Maybe a bad call, but an honest mistake no doubt. Just seemed wrong. What do i know...! I think you'll be surprised tho when you see how thick it got. Clover wouldn't do that, but grass would. What a big difference your cover crop choice can make.
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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Interesting. I only asked as a few years ago i experimented with alfalfa (lucerne, down under) as a green mulch. It was dry but still green.

I had heaps of this blue mould then under the mulch. Then if i remember correctly it was taking over all of the mulch so i got rid of it and moved to perlite as my mulch... it was very dusty the mould and was defo floating around.

I am gonna do the same with my no-till once the cover crops have grown up.

Perhaps a top layer of bark or very dry flower petals etc will keep the mould away from the top.
 
Hey Kidz~ just been veggin' out and observing what's happening with this cutting edge Gaia technology method. There was a lot more consistency in the "recipe" the first time around... as in what elements are distributed around the garden. Evenly mixed soil/amendments, most plants needing water at the same time... Now you can see that some pots have more clover, some have more grass or peas, and there are variations in watering within each of the three rows of different strains. I'm not sure how the variation in cover crop dominance in each pot will affect anything significantly. I could probably do some research on the cover crops and see if there is much of a significant difference in how they break down and make a guess at whether or not amendments will need individual perscriptions per bucket. It seems there may be enough pull in difference to effect how fast the water evaporates or is utilized in the pot with how thick the cover crop is, and what cover is dominant in the pot, which I'm seeming to notice already in conjunction with plants growing at a faster rate.
I think any gardener planning a no-till garden should have a journal ready, and only take on as many containers as they can keep track of and commit to observing closely for at least a round or two before expanding or adding more no-till space. I need to start keeping a journal, or perhaps even a template/diagram of the pots (i only have 15). then I can just grab and date a template, scratch any observations in the square for that pot etc. There may not be enough difference in this variety of cover crop to play in to how each bucket world is re amended over time. I don't have enough experience to make a guess as to how things will progress. Mostly just observation at this point. It reminds me of my early days in photography where you write down all the settings so you can remember what you did to make the photo turn out that way. Then you own the method ;)

"nature: it works" besides this obvious reason for going no-till, I think the beauty of this method lies in the fact that each farmer is pretty much forced to pay attention to their garden, there isn't so much a recipe or schedule to follow, you have to be the master of your own little universe here. ~mgd

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big_daddy

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Nice update Miz GD,

I love to see how your garden grows.............ya can't ask for a healthier group of plants than those for sure.

cheers,

Big_daddy
 
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