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You better believe it mate! I'll be there some day 
Hey thanks buddy! I have never seen a mosquito dunk till I looked one up now. I'm not sure it would work though?
Wouldn't the "highly specific" mean it's going to kill only mosquitoes and nothing/not much else?
I was thinking about the hydrogen peroxide though. Even for just regular growing I would like to try.
Wouldn't the "highly specific" mean it's going to kill only mosquitoes and nothing/not much else?
I was thinking about the hydrogen peroxide though. Even for just regular growing I would like to try.
Actually the mosquito dunks can take care of quite a few pest problems aside from mosquito's. I had an issue with fungus gnats making my Salvia plants home. After about 1-2 weeks the problem was under control and continued use has pretty much eliminated them. I just take a dunk, break it in half, put one half in the gallon of water and save the other or just break it up into smaller bits and sprinkle it on the top of the soil. Also its safe to use, non-toxic to people and pets....even fish. An insects worse nightmare! lol
Also if you search IC, you'll find quite a few posts. Its a cheap and effective. =)
Also if you search IC, you'll find quite a few posts. Its a cheap and effective. =)
Thank you bro I do appreciate it, and your experience.
Sad to say though, after reading, the dunks don't work, that's confirmed. It is indeed a different type of bug. Basically nothing is guaranteed to work. Even the systemic toxic shit probably won't work completely, it only controls them well. I'm still reading the main thread but that's how it seems. It's a genuine case of just take clones and move location if you want to avoid a world of pain and disappointment.
I'm thinking I may try to control it with tobacco, and limp over the finish line with some weed that isn't gonna kill me (but like tobacco is any better anyway). Take my femmed seed, and only my femmed seed, and move on. Outdoor full organics.
So it's a sad day at the ninja dojo. I dunno what else to say. Between this and the ccfls, I am pretty low at the moment. Too low for a smiley even.
Sad to say though, after reading, the dunks don't work, that's confirmed. It is indeed a different type of bug. Basically nothing is guaranteed to work. Even the systemic toxic shit probably won't work completely, it only controls them well. I'm still reading the main thread but that's how it seems. It's a genuine case of just take clones and move location if you want to avoid a world of pain and disappointment.
I'm thinking I may try to control it with tobacco, and limp over the finish line with some weed that isn't gonna kill me (but like tobacco is any better anyway). Take my femmed seed, and only my femmed seed, and move on. Outdoor full organics.
So it's a sad day at the ninja dojo. I dunno what else to say. Between this and the ccfls, I am pretty low at the moment. Too low for a smiley even.
Well even though you said not to look up rood aphid, I did. And your right, scary shit! I did find something that might interest you. Someone asked cannabis culture magazine what to do about root aphids and to my surprise they had their on infestation that they took care of. You probably read it already, but in case you haven't here's a bit of what they said....
"Root aphids are a serious problem and they are not easy to get rid of. A serious infection occurred in a controlled indoor plant nursery. We never discovered how the infection began.... Nevertheless, the very agile hard coated black insect, 1/16" in length, invaded the rooting medium and could be seen scurrying into hiding. It was identified as an aphid, but I thought looked more like a beetle.
Three ingredients were used to eliminate the insect under the "zero tolerance" policy of the nursery.
Liquid pyrethrum concentrate was mixed into the water/nutrient mix. Pyrethrum is an organic pesticide refined from flowers in the chrysanthemum family. There are a number of brands available in nurseries and garden shops but you may have to go online to find a liquid concentrate.
Botanigard is a specific virulent species of fungus that infects soft-bodied insects. When a possible host insect brushes against the fungus spore, the spore attaches itself to the insect. Then it grows hyphae, which are simple thread-like filaments, into the body of the insect and starts feeding on the insect. When the insect dies it releases more fungus spores that are ready to germinate when they come in contact with a suitable host such as another root aphid. It is available at a few shops and online.
Beneficial nematodes are microscopic carnivores that attack all kinds of insects in all stages of growth. Once the nematodes come in contact with the insect, whether adult or pupae, it is walking dead. After the feast, the nematodes do just what you'd expect, so thousands more hungry nematodes enter the scene looking for a good meal..."
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/4519.html
"Root aphids are a serious problem and they are not easy to get rid of. A serious infection occurred in a controlled indoor plant nursery. We never discovered how the infection began.... Nevertheless, the very agile hard coated black insect, 1/16" in length, invaded the rooting medium and could be seen scurrying into hiding. It was identified as an aphid, but I thought looked more like a beetle.
Three ingredients were used to eliminate the insect under the "zero tolerance" policy of the nursery.
Liquid pyrethrum concentrate was mixed into the water/nutrient mix. Pyrethrum is an organic pesticide refined from flowers in the chrysanthemum family. There are a number of brands available in nurseries and garden shops but you may have to go online to find a liquid concentrate.
Botanigard is a specific virulent species of fungus that infects soft-bodied insects. When a possible host insect brushes against the fungus spore, the spore attaches itself to the insect. Then it grows hyphae, which are simple thread-like filaments, into the body of the insect and starts feeding on the insect. When the insect dies it releases more fungus spores that are ready to germinate when they come in contact with a suitable host such as another root aphid. It is available at a few shops and online.
Beneficial nematodes are microscopic carnivores that attack all kinds of insects in all stages of growth. Once the nematodes come in contact with the insect, whether adult or pupae, it is walking dead. After the feast, the nematodes do just what you'd expect, so thousands more hungry nematodes enter the scene looking for a good meal..."
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/4519.html
Thanks bro . I really studied this hard today. I went with the imidacloprid. There is just no getting around it for numerous reasons and it took 2 days of reading to get to this point. Ed's thing was discussed in the epic Phylloxera information thread and hopefully I don't sound like a jerk but I have seen Ed to be plain ol' wrong on countless occasions and that seemed to be the opinion on the thread. I think a key point here is that the Phylloxera thread is page after page after page of people saying "Oh hey guys oh guys check this out I poured ____ on my plants and the problem is 100% absolutely gone!!!", and every single motherfucking person came back a few days/weeks later and said "oh....oops...they came back, sorry". So I suspect Ed's thing is a case of that.
This stuff is not exactly the greatest shit to be putting in my plant, but it turns out it's (I think) the third most used pesticide on all the food we eat. And interestingly, it is used on tobacco. It is late in flowering to be applying it, but not drastically so in my opinion. I've been assured I should man up and do it so uh, as soon as I work out the dosage, I'm on it.
This could happen to you.
. I really studied this hard today. I went with the imidacloprid. There is just no getting around it for numerous reasons and it took 2 days of reading to get to this point. Ed's thing was discussed in the epic Phylloxera information thread and hopefully I don't sound like a jerk but I have seen Ed to be plain ol' wrong on countless occasions and that seemed to be the opinion on the thread. I think a key point here is that the Phylloxera thread is page after page after page of people saying "Oh hey guys oh guys check this out I poured ____ on my plants and the problem is 100% absolutely gone!!!", and every single motherfucking person came back a few days/weeks later and said "oh....oops...they came back, sorry". So I suspect Ed's thing is a case of that. This stuff is not exactly the greatest shit to be putting in my plant, but it turns out it's (I think) the third most used pesticide on all the food we eat. And interestingly, it is used on tobacco. It is late in flowering to be applying it, but not drastically so in my opinion. I've been assured I should man up and do it so uh, as soon as I work out the dosage, I'm on it.
This could happen to you.
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I would keep that bush floweringn If I werer U.
Hell yeah, both plants got treated last night and I don't regret a thing. This stuff is very safe in my opinion. You can see my thoughts on the link above. Peace all.
This stuff is very safe in my opinion. You can see my thoughts on the link above. Peace all.
The greatest crop never to be smoked
The greatest crop never to be smoked
Well, upon deeper meditation, I think I will not smoke this stuff, or eat it, or hash it. Better to play it safe although I suspect I'd be fine. So, somewhat sadly I must announce
This grow is now for seed only. Root Aphids or Phylloxera almost broke me. I have no idea if the imidacloprin (sad that I can spell it off by heart now) has even worked. This was sort of to be expected.
Really sad to battle through all 15 pages of the most depressing thread on ICmag and get to the end and there is Scay Beez still dealing with the original infection.
This is the AIDS of marijuana growing. Spider mites sounds like a walk in the park. Having said all that, the old girl is not looking too bad!
You may have noticed it's hard to get a good photo of the rootzone, and this makes it look worse than it is:
The roots are not that brown, they are actually looking better already and I saw some new root shoots. I had crushed most of the visible "clusters" with a tent peg in that pic, but you can see the imidacloprin is doing what it says on the box.
Do you know there is not a single search results for titles of "Hygiene" and a few other spellings I tried. You can pick up root aphids a number of ways so to any readers doing hydro, I would recommend sterilizing everything in a microwave or something. Lord only knows how you sterilize organic material without losing your beneficials, so good luck with that. Never accept cuts in a medium. Never accept shit in general because if I hadn't have seen the white clusters, I would never even know I had a problem.
My vegies outside were swarming with these motherfuckers too, as is every plant of any type that I own. No wonder I have been so shit at growing lately. As I may have mentioned, the toking tent crop had these things on the roots too. You could very well have them now and frankly I'm scared these little pricks will take over the world.
Investigate your medium closely. You really have to stare for a long while and you will need a loupe or scope to enjoy the full magnitude. Stare and then stare some more. They are small as dust, moving dust. Well, that aspect of them is. Another aspect is the flyers. This indicates severe infection.
As well as these, there are tiny grub things, bug things, spider things, you name it. These are all different developmental stages of the root aphid I believe. Also the little tiny black ants around the house were traversing all over too, these guys are hooked up in the whole shonky scheme of things. They carry the eggs back to their nest and care for the little fuckers, then bring them back when they're ready to destroy your marijuana. Fucking enablers.
So please check your shit. Or not. Maybe it would just be better to go on without knowing I had these. Still, I am okay. I will get 3 billion fem seeds and I learnt a lesson.
*just in case my wording was confusing, this can affect any grow style to my knowledge - DWC, Aero, the lot. LadyL has given me hope that OBBTs/Bio-Boxes may be resilient to them, and since I wanted to try them anyway, that is what I'll be switching to, once I grow the current plants out.
The greatest crop never to be smoked
Well, upon deeper meditation, I think I will not smoke this stuff, or eat it, or hash it. Better to play it safe although I suspect I'd be fine. So, somewhat sadly I must announce
This grow is now for seed only. Root Aphids or Phylloxera almost broke me. I have no idea if the imidacloprin (sad that I can spell it off by heart now) has even worked. This was sort of to be expected.
Really sad to battle through all 15 pages of the most depressing thread on ICmag and get to the end and there is Scay Beez still dealing with the original infection.
This is the AIDS of marijuana growing. Spider mites sounds like a walk in the park. Having said all that, the old girl is not looking too bad!You may have noticed it's hard to get a good photo of the rootzone, and this makes it look worse than it is:
The roots are not that brown, they are actually looking better already and I saw some new root shoots. I had crushed most of the visible "clusters" with a tent peg in that pic, but you can see the imidacloprin is doing what it says on the box.
Do you know there is not a single search results for titles of "Hygiene" and a few other spellings I tried. You can pick up root aphids a number of ways so to any readers doing hydro, I would recommend sterilizing everything in a microwave or something. Lord only knows how you sterilize organic material without losing your beneficials, so good luck with that. Never accept cuts in a medium. Never accept shit in general because if I hadn't have seen the white clusters, I would never even know I had a problem.
My vegies outside were swarming with these motherfuckers too, as is every plant of any type that I own. No wonder I have been so shit at growing lately. As I may have mentioned, the toking tent crop had these things on the roots too. You could very well have them now and frankly I'm scared these little pricks will take over the world.
Investigate your medium closely. You really have to stare for a long while and you will need a loupe or scope to enjoy the full magnitude. Stare and then stare some more. They are small as dust, moving dust. Well, that aspect of them is. Another aspect is the flyers. This indicates severe infection.
As well as these, there are tiny grub things, bug things, spider things, you name it. These are all different developmental stages of the root aphid I believe. Also the little tiny black ants around the house were traversing all over too, these guys are hooked up in the whole shonky scheme of things. They carry the eggs back to their nest and care for the little fuckers, then bring them back when they're ready to destroy your marijuana. Fucking enablers.
So please check your shit. Or not. Maybe it would just be better to go on without knowing I had these. Still, I am okay. I will get 3 billion fem seeds and I learnt a lesson.
*just in case my wording was confusing, this can affect any grow style to my knowledge - DWC, Aero, the lot. LadyL has given me hope that OBBTs/Bio-Boxes may be resilient to them, and since I wanted to try them anyway, that is what I'll be switching to, once I grow the current plants out.
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mets see a top vew of her.
Those pics and these pics are at day 20 btw
Those pics and these pics are at day 20 btw
Here is a song that sums things up pretty well.
Cheese, here is that top down, and another one...lookin' pretty good I think you'll agree! Life is pretty twisted, it will be hard not to smoke this, lol.
It's such a wicked plant. Life is cruel.
Those pics and these pics are at day 20 btw
Here is a song that sums things up pretty well.
Cheese, here is that top down, and another one...lookin' pretty good I think you'll agree! Life is pretty twisted, it will be hard not to smoke this, lol.
It's such a wicked plant. Life is cruel.
wate so UR gunna grow it but not gunna smoke any of that.
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Stumble
Wow, What a Bummer!
Hi guys! Well, it is actually kind of tricky. I'm pretty convinced it's harmless enough, but the fact that it got treated later puts me in a different boat to people who treat the plant in veg. The plant uptakes a greater amount of chemical. If treated at a young stage, I have no qualms about smoking the product, and I have treated a young seedling. Not good to use chems at all but this problem is worse than it seems.
The messed up bit is that I have 3 other sources for weed and all of them use PGRs which are a poison - I notice horrible instant effects from them, plus god knows what else. They also don't flush.
So as messed up as that sounds, this weed is probably safer than the shit I will buy.
I was going to drench them with tobacco juice and nobody mentioned that as being bad for me - I could have gone ahead with the blessing of IC. Yet it's like 20 times worse than the stuff I used (a synthetic tobacco)
So I will make the ultimate call when I harvest. I'll have had the most time to research it. Water curing, growing the plant for a long ass time with lots of flushing, these may help. Opinions very welcome.
The messed up bit is that I have 3 other sources for weed and all of them use PGRs which are a poison - I notice horrible instant effects from them, plus god knows what else. They also don't flush.
So as messed up as that sounds, this weed is probably safer than the shit I will buy.
I was going to drench them with tobacco juice and nobody mentioned that as being bad for me - I could have gone ahead with the blessing of IC. Yet it's like 20 times worse than the stuff I used (a synthetic tobacco)
So I will make the ultimate call when I harvest. I'll have had the most time to research it. Water curing, growing the plant for a long ass time with lots of flushing, these may help. Opinions very welcome.
3 wks
3 wks
Penetration is good.
3 wks
Penetration is good.
GrowBox420
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Nice set up. do you have the demensions? Is that soil or hydro
Thanks bro, It's hydro - hand watered coco (I hid my pump somewhere and can't find it) and I use "dutch master gold" hydro nutes. I do use some organics - Seasol (a kelp product) and molasses
Some specs from earlier:
Gave em a small dose of a PK boost tonight.
I think the P may have dropped out of solution in my old ass nutes. The stems are more purple than normal and I noticed that P deficiency looks just like what I had in my last grow, the continual leaf die-off.
Some specs from earlier:
- W: 575mm or 22.5"
- D: 550mm or 21.5"
- H: 715mm or 28"
- Square footage: 3.34
- Watts: 220
- w/sq ft: 65
Gave em a small dose of a PK boost tonight.
I think the P may have dropped out of solution in my old ass nutes. The stems are more purple than normal and I noticed that P deficiency looks just like what I had in my last grow, the continual leaf die-off.
