2007 Oregon Guerrilla Outdoor, with BACKCOUNTRY

[Fast_Pine]

Hey Fast_pine!
I think I may actually use a 12 volt Shurflow pump insted of the Homelite this year, it doesn't look like any of my plots will require the power of the gas powered pump. A matter of fact, a few of them look like gravity flow will be enough.
I won't need to water until sometime in June probably, since its still raining at the moment, but I'll start setting up my resivours by the end of May.
Are you going to have a grow thread this year?

Hmmmm, goin battery powered huh..Isnt lord benis using a battery pump too.

Man yer territory is beautiful. It looks kinda like mine, just a lil more lush.

Im very excited to use the wx-10...I have 2 plots that I will use it on. I was thinking of leap frogging the water from barell to barell, so I could go further back into the forrest.

I recently made a rain catchment system that would make you proud..I hope to have 5 barrels filled by may20..I need alotta water for tha transplant. Ya know.

As far as a grow thread..Idonno...I dont see any other high desert growers from the south west round here, so I guess I should represent for my area. No?... ...I wanna, and I prolly will, Im just maxed out at the moment..

This year Im goin waaaaaay BACKCOUNTRY style, with rain catchers, gas pumps, gravity fed drip systems.....The works..I may do one just so you can see one of yer students in action..




FP

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

........ I was thinking of leap frogging the water from barell to barell, so I could go further back into the forrest......

Ya know, this is something I have thought about again and again, its a great way to move water a long distance with a limited ammount of hose/pipe(I mean how many feet of garden hose can you carry?).

But say you want to move 100 gallons(2 barrels) 600' with 200' of hose(You would need to stop and pump 3 times to reach the plot).
The problem is, you would need 3 barrels or equal sized containers to do this, thats a huge container that will be hauled to the site, and then hauled back out, that can be a bit of trouble ontop of all the other stuff ya gotta haul into the bush.

I few weeks back I was at Wal-mart, and being the Guerilla DIY kinda guy that I am, I was busy checking out many items in housewares, Gardening and outdoors, trying to figure out how I could use them to solve my problems.

And then it hit me while I passed the seasonal dept. set up for kids summer toys, INFLATABLE KIDDY POOLS!! I walked over to electronics and borrowed a calculator, and checked the diminsions on the kiddy pools, and converted them to gallons(very roughly).

Using the listed diminsions I found the rough cubic footge by multipling the width x width(or length) x depth. I then multiplied the cubic footage by 7.48 gallons(the content of a cubic foot in US gallons). I found that many of the smaller Kiddy pools actually could contain over 100 gallons! They are light weight, compact when deflated(for packing), and cheap($8 and up).

I intend to gt a couple 100 gallon kiddy pools and use them for moving water across dry areas, possibly without need for help from the resivours.

 

[guest123]

Hey Fast_pine!
I think I may actually use a 12 volt Shurflow pump insted of the Homelite this year, it doesn't look like any of my plots will require the power of the gas powered pump. A matter of fact, a few of them look like gravity flow will be enough.
I won't need to water until sometime in June probably, since its still raining at the moment, but I'll start setting up my resivours by the end of May.
Are you going to have a grow thread this year?

hey backcountry , looks like your prepping up well ... man your gonna love 12 volt pumps once u get into them , they are awesome ... i use 2 , one with a pressure valve to cut off once the pressure is up , great for using with an inline timer , the other has no pressure relief ...
they pump up to 14 ltrs a minute , and way beyond what the stats say , i even ran an extra one inline one day and boy u could move that water some distance ...
i use them to run sprinklers , u know the knocker sprinklers , runs them no problems , and also fill my dam which can b e used to drip feed or whatever i need ...
i dont think mine were shurflow , but have had a guy tell me they were good..
i just couldnt do what i do without those pumps ...

 

[LORD BENIS]

i Hola hombres !
Looking very promissing Backcountry!
The 12 volt pumps own, let us know how you like them.
I too have always thought of leap frogging water and must say that the inflatable kitty pool idea is brilliant!

I recently made a rain catchment system that would make you proud..I hope to have 5 barrels filled by may20.

As far as a grow thread..Idonno...I dont see any other high desert growers from the south west round here, so I guess I should represent for my area.

You definately got to represent that rain catching system, South-Western style!

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

hey backcountry , looks like your prepping up well ... man your gonna love 12 volt pumps once u get into them , they are awesome ...

Hey there! Yes I agree, I actually grew up in a "off the grid" household(no power), and we used and still use Solar powered 12volt Shurflow pumps to fill water tanks from our springs. This off the grid country life is where I have learned most all my knowlege I am using for designing watering systems.

I need to buy my own pump though, the rest are tied up in their duties around the ranch(called a station in Austrailia I believe), I also need a nice compact 12 volt battery as well.

Thanks lord benis! I was pretty proud of that idea myself, it was one of those ideas that make ya feel stupid cuz you didn't think of it sooner!

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

I like the idea of the kiddie pool, but I doubt it will work for me. Virtually everyplace I can think of in the boondocks around here is covered with sticks and/or rocks. I can't imagine an inflatable kiddie pool with 500+lbs of water in it surviving easily. They just don't look that puncture resistant to me...and I looked at several different types.

No no! You misunderstand, we are talking about using the kiddie pools to "walk" the water over long distances. Insted of hauling alot of heavy pipe/hose into the bush, you take a shorter hose and some kiddy pools, pumping from one pool to the next until you reach the ultimate(sturdy) resivours.

Rule makes some very good 12 Volt pumps. Primarily used as bilge pumps. I have a friend who has this exact model on his boat. And I am here to tell you that pump will MOVE some water...considering it's weight and size. ............it will still pump nearly 20 gallons/minute(1160gph) when battery is down to [email protected] feet of lift....

Bilge pumps are usless on anything but flat ground, they are not designed for moving water up hills, just over the side of a boat.
The Shurflow pump I am getting will push water up 60' or more, at 3.5 GPM, much slower than the bilge pump, but in my case I am worried about getting the water UP the hill, not just moving it fast.

 

[DimeBag65]

looking forward to seeing your grow BACKCOUNTRY, always an inspiration for the outback grow session. Happy seasons to you and will be watching this one closely Dime

 

[Guest]

I'll just keep quiet and see how it is done
Obly

 

[Gantz]

pen & paper ready
i'll be keeping an eye or two on this thread

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

High maintinence plot #3

High maintinence plot #3

OK, here is High maintinence plot #3, its in a great location in a older clearcut, lots of various native bushes and small trees have covered the landscape with plenty of great cover.

These are just the first 2 plants going in this plot, 2 more are waiting for me to have time(work sucks!).

PH was low at this plot, about a 6 PH(fixed with Dolomite), a texture test revealed a silty loam(very good), sunshine availability is great about 7 hours on Oct 21, 11 hours on Aug 22, and 12 hours on June 21.

The holes were prepared about the same, but I ran out of Azomite, so regular Dolomite was used here.

OR95 #1-


C99xOr95-


Thanks for visiting my thread guys! More to come!

 

[ddt]

Hey Backcountry, nice start this season and believe that even nicer will be after harvest.
Just keep us updating as till now and we all will be very happy and share our karma with you

 

[Heavy Chevy]

Pulling up a chair for this one if ya don't mind? Looks like some great things in store for this grow...

 

[Dignan]

NICE!!

 

[Guest]

Backcountry:

Approximately how big are the holes in the grow above? How much soil is within the plastic? How deep is that soil in plastic? And I assume a hole(s) for drainage right?

Thanks for the great thread!
Obli

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Oblidio49-All the holes so far have been planted just like the first in the thread, except now I am using Dolomite lime insted of Azomite(because I used the last of a big bag). See below for a partial repost of the first planting-

Plot HM#1 (High maitenence)..... I decided to dig holes in the 30 gallon range, because I am looking for a large plant here-


To dig a hole of the correct capacity, I used some math:

1 cubic foot contains 7.48 US Gallons

1 cubic foot is a cube that measures 12" in depth, width, and length. To find cubic footage of a hole, measure its width, length, and depth, and then multipy each number like this for example- 2'x2'x3'=12

I want a 30 gallon hole, so I divide 30 gallons by 7.48, and get 4 cubic feet- 30/7.48=4.

So I need a 4 cubic foot hole, after some figuring I disover that a hole 1.5' wide by 1.5' long, and 2' deep will contain 4 cubic feet(or 33 gallons)- 1.5'x 1.5'x 2'= 4 cubic feet.


I decided to try something different this season, I lined the holes with plastic sheeting, cutting a hole in the bottom for drainage. The idea is to try and reduce loss of moisture and nutrition to the surrounding native soils. I tossed 4 Table spoons of Water holding crystals in the bottom of the hole, to help catch moisture leaving the hole.

OK, here is whats going in the hole:

3 gallons of llama manure, NPK 1-1-1(also to help raise organic content for moisture retention)
2 gallons of Peat moss(to help moisture retention)
2 cups(1TBS per gallon) of Kelp meal for Potassium and trace minerals
2 cups of Azomite(similar to Dolomite, interchangable) for Cal,Mag and PH buffer
2 TBS 12-8-4 Seabird guano
8 TBS of water holding crystals total

First I filled the hole 1/2 way with native soil, then I dumped the llama manure and Peat moss on it, and then mixed it well-


Next I added 4 more TBS of Water holding crystals(front white pile), my Azomite(on left), and my Kelp meal(on right)-


I continued to mix these amendments and fertilizers together, mixing in more native soil to raise the holes surface to natural ground level-


I transplanted the plant to the plot, she is a OR95x C99-


At this point she is about 9 weeks old, and nearly 12" tall, its about 15 weeks to the start of bloom, and 24 weeks to harvest-


I sidedressed around her drip line with 2 TBS of High N Seabird guano, to give her a immediate boost so she can find all the other goodies in the soil-


I rigged up a "rat cage" in a cone shape from 1/2" hardware cloth, and placed it over her to protect her from attacks by Deer and Pack rats-

Click on this link for more info on protecting your plants from Deer-Protecting your plants from Deer ....

 

[ddt]

Dolomited Lime is great thing for ph regulation and great source for so importnat Mg through long months.
great thread and interesting and from boy which is so active with publication many interesting articles.
good luck bro

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

ddt-Thankyou!

Walker-I'm using 6mil sheet plastic, but a regular large contractor or leaf trash bag should work as well, just be careful not to puncture it too much if you are mixing with a shovel in the hole.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Ever wonder what the Guerrilla in "Guerrilla growing "means?

Guerrilla

A soldier in a small independent group fighting against the government or regular forces by surprise raids.

Guerrilla warfare

Guerrilla warfare (also spelled guerilla) is a method of unconventional combat by which small groups of combatants attempt to use mobile and surprise tactics (ambushes, raids, etc) to defeat a foe, often a larger, less mobile, army. Typically the smaller guerrilla army will either use its defensive status to draw its opponent into terrain which is better suited to the former or take advantage of its greater mobility by conducting surprise attacks at vulnerable targets, often deep in enemy territory.

I believe "Guerrilla growing" became a popular label for growers because it brings to mind the style of fighting done by a Guerrilla soldiers, a fighter usually in battle with a larger, vastly more poerful foe. Not being caught at rest is key to survival.
By using remoteness and Terrain, the Guerrilla grower grows his crop often in places that are difficult to get to, and possibly considered "wild". Often the Guerrilla works many times harder for each Ounce harvested than his freinds growing in their backyard or Vegtable garden.

Everything can become harder in Guerrilla grows, you can't just get up Sunday morning and water your plants with a garden hose while sipping Coffee and wearing a shower robe for example. Watering Guerrilla plants may involve automated watering systems or hiking to the plot to deliever water, not as easy as turning on the faucet.
Often Guerilla growing involves alot of time spent in the bush walking and looking and working, hauling everything you need to make plants grow, often long distances. It involves trying to co-exist with mother nature and all the little problems she can cause you while you are in her domain.

Why does the Guerrilla grower work so hard? Why not grow at home? Perhaps the grower has no yard or land to grow on, or perhaps he doesn't have the privacy he would like, or perhaps he is doing everything he can to make sure he doesn't get caught red-handed.

My personal reasons for not growing on my large parcel of land are because I don't want my family to be hurt if I get caught, not growing on the land we live on is my mission.

 

[Gantz]

my 2 euro-cents

we guerillas are no longer mere farmers. we are soldiers. we go behind enemy lines on recon missions so we don't have to risk our life and the life of others on the battlefield. while in enemy territory we make use of stealth, intelligence and subterfuge so that we don't draw any attention on ourselves. then we carefully choose our battlefield and if it needs tweaking we come prepared. our mission is to build a safe haven for the hunted and the oppressed. then we make sure they have all that they need to survive and have the normal life they deserve. we make frequent visits to check on them and bring them supplies and when the time comes we make their passing easier. why do we do it? because of love and because in their passing they repay us with a most needed supply of medicine for the mind and body. That medicine our government hates because it makes us think and not be silent slaves, depending on their drugs that poison our bodies and on their lies that darken our minds.

we might be soldiers...but WE ARE FREE!

i am a guerilla grower and this is my manifesto (i just had to say it)

 

[PHL8T ME]

Greetings and salutations to you O Great one BC. Will be paying attention again this year to your threads. Always infomitive.

Already got about 4 doz plants out, some were started indoors in Feb and are two feet tall!!!!, Looks to be a great year.

Stay safe, harvest large!