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1st grow ever. Hashberry seeds, CFL, Soil & Tent 48”x24”x60”

ChardIr

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I'd recommend getting a few of the lights below the plants or cutting down the bottom branches. Right now they will produce nothing.

Also, try to keep clones from all the plants until you smoke a sample from each.
Sometimes the odd ones smoke the best.


Heyyy Fonzee,
I try to get the lights down into the plants lower areas. The trouble is they reach out to the light and burn their tips. I've got a bunch of burnt tipped leaves that have nothing to do with nutrients and everything to do with being to aggressive in keeping the cfl lights close to the plants.
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I think I would have been better off with only 3 plants in the tent. But what was I to do?:dunno: I got 4 females out of 6 seeds! It would have been rude to the fates if I didn't grow them all.

About the darker areas on the plant. My guess is that as you go lower on the plant, the bud sites will give less and different types of buds...if any at all. It is also my understanding that the lower unproductive areas of the plant use resources that would be better used elsewhere. I'm sure it's a bit silly but I want to see what all that stuff will look like and I am willing to suffer a decrease in total yield and quality for that experience. I have trimmed a few leafs and branches from the lowest levels. Anything that was touching the soil or rim of the container was removed. I didn't prune for enhanced yield, I pruned thinking that it was more sanitary to keep the plants off the ground a bit.

I may do a bit more pruning in the future to increase the air flow. The humidity in the tent is almost always in the low 60's. If the bud sites get dense it is my understanding that mold may occure. I've seen some post about trimming some of the bud out of dense cola's if the humidity is high. I've also seen posts about the dangers of overcrowding a grow area. I have 2 fans blowing now, one in the upper part of the tent and the other blowing up from under the plants. I may add a third fan just to make sure there are not stagnant areas in the tent. I'm thinking I am still 2 or 3 weeks away from this being a problem that needs to be addressed with pruning

Jeeez, Fonzee! You post a couple of good observations and I get all up into writing a treatise!
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About the clones. I did take 2 cutting from each plant and was able to get roots from each cutting. (I was pretty happy about that) The noob mistake I made during the cloning process was not keeping track of the cuttings. I don't know which clone is from what plant!!!
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So I got out a razor blade, sanitized it and cut a couple more would be clones from my favorite plant...She Hulk. Those cuttings were from a flowering plant, but look like they will be ok.

I origanaly cut 2 clippings each from 4 plants for a total of 8 potential clones. They all rooted, but a couple of them looked twisted and bent so a trashed them. That left 6 rooted clones still in the plugs. I put them all into 5.5" x 5.5" containers with FFOF soil. 2 of those I put directly into the 12/12 grow tent because I want to see what will happen (I am a dude that is very curious about stuff). The remaining 4 clones have been topped once and are under a couple of 23watt 6500k cfls 24/7. I have been reading the sticky about bonsai mothers and am practicing on the clones. I am hoping that I am right and that the plant I names She Hulk is the best of the crop. If not, I still have these others and may need to try and figure out which one is from what plant.

All right man. Thanks for the comments and take it easy.
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ChardIr

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HiYa Dj ilum,
Thanks for the good vib and shout out. So far so good...I think. Hope it keeps on going like it has been so far.
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Hey-o GrassMaster,
Thanks for the kind words and advice. As you can see in my post to Fonzee, I'm trying to get those cfl's in there, it's just a bit tight. I'm having a good time with the cfl lights, but like most others, I will most likely want an hps light in the future. For now, I am more than happy with the results I am getting! Just hope my luck holds out till the end!:tiphat:
 

fonzee

Weed Cannasaur
Moderator
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Heyyy Fonzee,
I try to get the lights down into the plants lower areas. The trouble is they reach out to the light and burn their tips. I've got a bunch of burnt tipped leaves that have nothing to do with nutrients and everything to do with being to aggressive in keeping the cfl lights close to the plants.
wallbash.gif


I think I would have been better off with only 3 plants in the tent. But what was I to do?:dunno: I got 4 females out of 6 seeds! It would have been rude to the fates if I didn't grow them all.

About the darker areas on the plant. My guess is that as you go lower on the plant, the bud sites will give less and different types of buds...if any at all. It is also my understanding that the lower unproductive areas of the plant use resources that would be better used elsewhere. I'm sure it's a bit silly but I want to see what all that stuff will look like and I am willing to suffer a decrease in total yield and quality for that experience. I have trimmed a few leafs and branches from the lowest levels. Anything that was touching the soil or rim of the container was removed. I didn't prune for enhanced yield, I pruned thinking that it was more sanitary to keep the plants off the ground a bit.

I may do a bit more pruning in the future to increase the air flow. The humidity in the tent is almost always in the low 60's. If the bud sites get dense it is my understanding that mold may occure. I've seen some post about trimming some of the bud out of dense cola's if the humidity is high. I've also seen posts about the dangers of overcrowding a grow area. I have 2 fans blowing now, one in the upper part of the tent and the other blowing up from under the plants. I may add a third fan just to make sure there are not stagnant areas in the tent. I'm thinking I am still 2 or 3 weeks away from this being a problem that needs to be addressed with pruning

Jeeez, Fonzee! You post a couple of good observations and I get all up into writing a treatise!
biglaugh.gif


About the clones. I did take 2 cutting from each plant and was able to get roots from each cutting. (I was pretty happy about that) The noob mistake I made during the cloning process was not keeping track of the cuttings. I don't know which clone is from what plant!!!
wallbash.gif
So I got out a razor blade, sanitized it and cut a couple more would be clones from my favorite plant...She Hulk. Those cuttings were from a flowering plant, but look like they will be ok.

I origanaly cut 2 clippings each from 4 plants for a total of 8 potential clones. They all rooted, but a couple of them looked twisted and bent so a trashed them. That left 6 rooted clones still in the plugs. I put them all into 5.5" x 5.5" containers with FFOF soil. 2 of those I put directly into the 12/12 grow tent because I want to see what will happen (I am a dude that is very curious about stuff). The remaining 4 clones have been topped once and are under a couple of 23watt 6500k cfls 24/7. I have been reading the sticky about bonsai mothers and am practicing on the clones. I am hoping that I am right and that the plant I names She Hulk is the best of the crop. If not, I still have these others and may need to try and figure out which one is from what plant.

All right man. Thanks for the comments and take it easy.
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I was suggesting using side lightning. Just placing a CFL below the plants, not getting the upper CFLs down to the tops.

If you want to see the results of an unlighted lower buds in a CFL grow you can check my 8mh journal.
Manicuring them after harvest doesn't worth the trouble (at least to me) for the buds you'l get.

You don't really need to worry about budmold if you have some ventilation in there. Buds under CFLs don't get as dense as in HID grows, not half as dense.
So there's less risk of mold to begin with.
60% is pushing it with HID but I wouldn't worry with CFLs too much.
If it still bugs you - add another fan in there.

Putting a rooted clone directly to flower will result in a small lollipop bud.

Note that bonsai moms are nice and all, but they require frequent watering (daily or bi-daily) and very careful fertilizing.

If you don't know which clone came from what plant I would just get new clones from the ones you don't have identified clones from, put the un-identified clones in 0.5L bottles with drainage hole with soil and put them on 12\12.
You'll get some buds from them but they would be a trouble if you'll veg them up and get the wrong plant.


Cheers, Fonz.
 
Hey-o GrassMaster,
Thanks for the kind words and advice. As you can see in my post to Fonzee, I'm trying to get those cfl's in there, it's just a bit tight.

Some Flouro tubes would do justice also if too tight for CFL's to get in there for side lighting. Not to stay stuck on it, but I feel it'll definitely be worth your while (and costs) to give them some side lighting (for penetration on the lower/most interior buds)since flowering under CFL's
 

ChardIr

Member
Hi Fonzee and Grassmaster,

I don't think I have explained very well about how the lights are hanging now. I have the 68w bulbs over the tops of the plants. I keep them about an inch or two above the top tips of the plants without any problems. I have 3, 42w plus a 23w bulbs hanging down the side of the tent lighting up the sides of 2 plants. I also have the same set-up hanging down another side of the tent lighting for the other 2 plants. The plants are rotated at least ones a day and the lights are lowered or lifted to get the most and closest exposure for the mid area buds and branching. A few times the lower area leaf tips have moved to close to the bulbs and got a tip burnt off. For the most part I think they are getting some light down there.

I have about a month and a half left and I will be finished with my very 1st grow!
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So far I am feeling pretty confident I will be able to hit both of the goals listed in my 1st post for this tread.

The goal will be to end up with some nicely cured buds regardless of yield, but with a high yield of experience.

My worry is that if I don't take the advice given on this grow, the advice generous people have given, they will think "F**k-em if he doesn't want to get a better plant". This grow was never about striving to get the best possible grow. It is about getting a grow done, getting comfortable growing and learning how to get a great yielding quality second grow. I'm not saying this is a throw away grow, just that its mainly about getting my feet wet before I throw myself in totally. 1st time I had sex wasn't the best I've preformed. But I had a great time, enjoyed the results and was eager for the next time. (so don't think F**K-em)
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Anyway, Thanks for, what I am sure, is great advise. I'm going to do the best with the set-up I have now and am planing and scheming about the 2nd go around.
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fonzee

Weed Cannasaur
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So you should be fine.

However, in advanced flowering (last month of flowering) I wouldn't move the plant too much.
It shouldn't grow much, except for the buds that should swell so placing the CFLs should be much easier.
I that stage I'd just find a good setup and stick to it.


Our advice is just an advice. Everyone got his way of growing and its up to you to choose which way to take.
There's some stuff that are generally accepted, but most stuff are up to the gardener preference.
Thats why we (at least I) don't take it personally when someone choose to ignore my advice.



Have fun ~
 

ChardIr

Member
I just found a strange looking growth on an upper fan leaf. It is a bunch of pistils growing from a protuberance on the top of a fan leaf. Looks weird, but it doesn't look Hermie or pollen producing. Anyone seen this before? Anything I should be worried about?

Thanks and all the best!:tiphat:

All photos of the same plant and the same gneral area. The pistils are growing out from the top of a fan leaf.
 

fonzee

Weed Cannasaur
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I've seen it around before, I think it was somewhat common with the green crack strain.
It won't hurt anything and you can smoke that if you will.
 

ChardIr

Member
Flower day 22 and I'm still having fun. (no big problems)


Hit Girl (Hashberry)


Mystique (Hashberry)


Supergirl (Hashberry)


She Hulk (Hashberry)



This is just a quick photo update.
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ChardIr

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Hey fonzee
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HiYa killerweed31 :tiphat:

Thanks for the comments!


These photos are from Nov. 31st. I was away for about a week and am just getting caught up on everything. I have a new camera and I'm just not used to it yet. I'm not very happy with the quality, but what the heck, I figure it's better to put something up than nothing.

They do not look at all as frosty as they do in the photos. There is quite a bit of trichs developing, just doesn't look that way with the naked eye.

I did notice that the buds looked bigger and more dense then when I left. With a little over 30 days to go I am anxious to see if they keep shooting pistils.

The plants look good and healthy. The trays I had them in when I was away were all dry when I got back and the soil was still moist. That was pretty cool to see after worrying about them.

Hashberry (Hit Girl) Flower day 31



Hashberry (Mystique) Flower day 31



Hashberry (Supergirl) Flower day 31


Hashberry (She Hulk) Flower day 31



Cheers everybody! :biggrin:
 

ChardIr

Member
42 DAYS FLOWERING

Flower Photos from 12/12/2010. I have been crazy busy the last few weeks and have not kept this journal as up to date as I would like. Anyway, the buds seem to be getting bigger. Some leafs have fallen. I have burnt a few leafs due to the placement of the CFL bulbs closer to the plants then needed.


Hit Girl




Mystique



Super Girl




She Hulk




1st time growing and it looks like I'm going to have some buds at harvest.
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I'm looking forward to finding out what the yield will be compared to the watts used growing. I don't care much what that turns out to be, but I care very much what the grams per watt will be on the next grow. I will have one harvest completed and want to get better results on each future attempt.
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Let me know what you think of this so far. If not, that's cool...thanks for stopping in and looking.
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fonzee

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After looking at your pictures again your plants look like they should be pretty root bound.
Its late, if not too late to do much and it would delay ripening by a week, but I would transplant them into bigger pots if I was you.

I got a SHITTY yield from my last run because my soil plants didn't have enough space to grow roots.

Plus, you would need to water less frequently :)
 

killerweed31

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hey dude your plants looks so dank man, this hashberry is definitely a great choice for smok and grow, some kick ass weed fo su!!!
i think you have some nice weed for this christmas so keep enjoyed also for me , my garden i think going for more then a week and i chopped sure after christmas!
 

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