1rst grow & Mites - HELP!!

[iliketogrow2]

i am discusted and filled with a unstoppable feeling of dread.

i symultaneously identified mites and the source of my leaf damage..

at 39 days my buds are really starting to look nice and i will be crushed if i start finding spider webs..

ive done my homework but need a definate solution for cheap cuz im a broke student...

im going to rinse the plant, manually rid it of as many mites as i can, then rinse it under the shower head on low pressure to remove more mites hopefully without damaging trichomes to much. then im going to spray 100% of it with 'safer soap' a natural pesticide that helped a friend with his mite problem. then after 12 hours im going to rinse the plant under the shower head again...

im extremely fearful having read through threads and threads of horror stories. Im going to harvest my plants in about 10-15 days anyways. do u think ill be able to fight them off until then? will running water over my plants give them bud rot? or displace alot of trichomes? here are some pics to liven up the thread...

sorry state of affairs...not bad looking buds for first grow tho eh?

really dont want pesticidy tasting plants in a couple weeks hears some pics of the damage/buds

thanks all!! i know i can depend on the online community for sound advice but i need it soon. its already pretty bad ithink.





heres the top and bottom of a leaf, they arnt very visable to the naked eye, but u can see little white ..wat i can only assume are eggs on the underside. they dont show on camera










kind hard to tell but what im trying to illustrate is the white flecking residue ont he top of the leaves. if u need certain pics taken let me know...

please help me im woeful

 

[iliketogrow2]

pic issues sorry

 

[JJScorpio]

Have you found webs and know they are mites for sure?

 

[Big D]

Ladybugs... get um quick! Very cheap!

 

[iliketogrow2]

where do i get lady bugs? yes i have found very primitive webs. i have compared photos and my leaves under a microscope.

where do i get lady bugs? should i put on the 'safer soap' insecticide product first and then add the lady bugs afte rive rinsed?

 

[Guest]

I'm not sure I would use safer soaps or anything else this late in flower? The safer soaps tastes like shit. Like Big D said ladybugs, although it's a little late for them if you are going to harvest in 2 weeks?

If you are going to add ladybugs Do Not use safer soaps first!!!

You might be able to find them at a local nursery or hardware store? It is a little early for them to carry them though.

GCG

 

[iliketogrow2]

lady bugs sound like the primo option i just hope i can get some. theres a nursery like 5 mins from school ill try there and walmart ...

i feel like its 2 early for lady bugs tho...
and i feel like saferr soaps tastes like crap i had a friend who had to scrap his entire operation after using safer soaps. the whole thing tasted like the insecticide. turned it into hash.

what the FEK do i do? how effective can manual removeable of mites be? not great i bet especially if i wash away all the trichs trying to rid the 1 plant of mites.

did i mention my entire grow is 1 plant?

o man . my first grow. 1 plant, a beautiful crop just 2 weeks from flower, packing on the trichs, and i finally identify the white spotting on the leaves, which has gotten pretty wide spread now as spider mites... DAMMN!!!

guys. help me out here i need some expert advice that will work. (possibly other than florma mite or any other 250$ miticides)

fix my plants!

 

[JJScorpio]

If they are that infested you need to do something now. In a matter of days they will have the plants in very bad shape. If it were me I would take it to the sink and pick off everything I could find and spray the plant off. You will want to make sure to get it dired with a fan and some warm air. I dont think I would want to use a no pest strip or neem oil this late. If I had to use anything I would probably put a no pest strip in with it for a couple days and hope it wiped them out. If you are going to use ladybugs, pick what you can off first and do not use anything else.....

 

[Big D]

I dont know how bad you have them? But if you get enough LB's they do the job fairly quick. Something that may help without contaminating the buds... and something you may have on hand, is garlic! Take a clove and slice it and rub it on the stem and under the leaf on the leaf stem... any where you can, without touching the buds! If you are beyond help, then harvest now! It would be better than losing your grow totally. And those buds do look some what ripe! IMO You must act quickly... total infestation happens very fast!

 

[iliketogrow2]

ahhhhhh this is so intense. im really stressed. i brough the temps down in the box to about 60 degrees by opening hte box and the window in my room this should certainly slow the breeding process. today i will rinse the fuck out of the plant and look for some lady bugs which i dont think im goin to find in mid march in canada. but i will try. last night i blasted some of hte plant with a spray bottle set to jet and trimmed back some of hte affected foliage. I dont really know the difference between a sever infestation and a not severe infestation. anyone care to illustrate the difference?

if i cant find any ill cut my plant down in the next few days. its only been flowering for 40 days but as big D said the buds do look somewhat ripe...

lord help me! cast down lightening and thunder on those mites!

 

[Guest]

I dont know how bad you have them? But if you get enough LB's they do the job fairly quick. Something that may help without contaminating the buds... and something you may have on hand, is garlic! Take a clove and slice it and rub it on the stem and under the leaf on the leaf stem... any where you can, without touching the buds! If you are beyond help, then harvest now! It would be better than losing your grow totally. And those buds do look some what ripe! IMO You must act quickly... total infestation happens very fast!

Sorry D I wish I was hanging around his house I would gladly rub myself all over his plant!!!!! ROTFLMAO

GCG

 

[Guest]

Now on a serious note. You already know you have mites. You can leave the plants for another week or chop them right now that is your call?

The next thing to do is after you harvest clean your room thoroughly. Put a couple of tablespoons of liquid bleach in a spray bottle and fill it up with water then spray everything down completely and I mean everything lights fans whatever was in ther spray it down.

Sorry take the bulbs out don't spray them wipe them off.

GCG

 

[JJScorpio]

Don't cut the plant yet. If nothing else you should be able to keep them under control by cleaning them by hand. They are already there so there is no reason to cut them....

 

[iliketogrow2]

something wrong with the big lady bug supplier around my town for some reason apparently. going to wash the plant thoroly then spray them with safer soaps then wait a couple hours then wash them again and dry the plant under a big fan...


all agreed on this plan of attack?

 

[JJScorpio]

That sounds good. It would be worse if there were a lot of plants but with one you can keep it clean. I would spray the soap on a rag and wipe them down but not get it on the buds. It could be worse, lol......Next grow throw a no pest strip in when you first flower and take it out after a week or so. I went through this once and now I do this as a preventive measure.....

 

[bartender187]

Ladybugs... get um quick! Very cheap!

IMO these are for prevention... once you have them... lady bugs wont cut the job imo...

heres a good thread, lots of discusion on various mite erradication techniques...

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=51119&highlight=mites

GL brotha, be VIGILENT!!!!
bartender187

 

[iliketogrow2]

i bought this spray at a hardware store near my house. its a safer's soap product for spider mites. comes premixed in a spray bottle. used that sprayed the plant thoroughly leaves buds everything. let it sit for an hour while i went to the headshop to discuss my problem with my buddy at the headshop.

he called up a friend of his at hightimes who told us the spray i used is only for the adults only. i picked up a bottle of safer's endall a similar product the only difference being that it kills the eggs adults and young mites. i sprayed the plant again with the endall product when i got home wetting every surface of the plant. i let that sit for about half an hour the got out my mister and sprayed the plant down with an entire litre of wate with nothing in it. then i flushed the soil with about 2 gallons of water and ran the water from the shower head over it gently

when i was done i set the plant up in front of a fan with a small space heater behind the fan. i let it blow warm air for a couple hours in an attempt to dry out the buds to avoid bud rot. then i wiped down the inside of my grow box with bleach based cleaner and put the plant back. i took out the envirolite that was pushing the temperatures way up and cooled down my room by opening the window. mites like heat and dont breed in the cold.

hmmm going to be leaving the plant in the grow box until sunday since my dad and brother are coming to visit and staying with me ! so when i open it up in 3 days i hope the spider mites will be gone and the buds looking ripe. i was going to cut it down at the end of this week but im going to keep flowering for another 20 days for a total of 60 days in hopes of getting rid of some of the insecticide tastes via flushing & feeding it just water...

input on the ramble of a post?

 

[suckerrepellent]

a couple other options (although semi expensive) work without a hitch. it is a pretty heavy chemical that you need to cover your mouth and eyes for, but look into these products: flora mite, avid. both of them are crazy strong, im talkin within three days the entire crop was clean without a single relapse. make sure you hit your plants with these week two flower at the latest! best if used in veg. chances are you arent going to be able to find it, youll have to order it (although i don't know chemical availability in canada.)

 

[Big D]

Sorry D I wish I was hanging around his house I would gladly rub myself all over his plant!!!!! ROTFLMAO

GCG

Where are you when he needs you? That is funny!


iliketogrow, Hows it going? I wish you luck my friend! Like JJ says it happens to everyone atleast once... now you will be obsessed! Which in the case of pest is a good thing.

Yes Ladybugs are more along the lines of prevention!

 

[chosen]

If you are harvesting in 10 days,this is tricky. You might get away with 2 things.

1- you can mix vodka, peroxide and water(2tbsp-1-2tsp-1gallon) Don't mist them with the mix. Blast their butt. So, use a 1 gallon or so Hand sprayer like you get at home depot. The ones you pump up for pesticide and lawn spraying. Do it before the lights come on. The alcohol should burn off and the peroxide will turn into oxygen.

Pepper Spray
Target insects: All-purpose

* Just like the pepper dusts a spray made from hot peppers will release the capasaicin compound to repel insects.
* To make:Mix 1/2 cup of finely chopped or ground hot peppers with 1 pint of water. Let this sit for 24 hours. Use as is for a soil drench application or strain the mixture through cheesecloth until you have a clear liquid. Add a few drops of castille soap and use as a foliar application. Keep away from your eyes and skin when using.
5. Alcohol - rubbing alcohol is good but it is made from petroleum products. Drinking alcohols are made from plants. Using only a few tblsp per gallon of water will kill many soft body insects. Too much alcohol in water will produce a super herbicide.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...+&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=105&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://www.ghorganics.com/page14.html#Lime Spray

Be careful though.. You don't want to burn your plants or have the buds stay wet and mold.
2-I've seen people use car vacuums. The little dirt devil type to suck up spider mites. Be careful to not suck up the crystals.

After you get done with all this, next crop use neem oil every 2-3 days with your sprayer while in veg. You can even do it 1 week into flowering. Then use that alcohol and water spray mix with a tsp-a tbsp of tobasco for the next week or 2. Burn their butts...

By the way this may not kill them but should give you time to whipe them away of sorts or repel them inorder to harvest. They will still be in the room until you cleanse the cab or room.