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10 - Agrobar 720s over 6 - 4x8.5 ft rolling benches. F & D FTW

Crooked8

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Day 39
Trays 1-6
Finally finished defol today.
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Whered you get Raskalog genetics from? I need my old Raskal WiFi back😭
My close friend held his straight Fire OG he created wifi with since like 2000 or earlier. That is her. He would never share a cut with me till he retired. Hung his hat two years back ive had her since. Crazy guava pine og stuff going on. A tropical sort of og, not like an sfv/818/tahoe/true og.
 

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Some of those are properly fat. Nice :)

Do you think the N little high at this time, and maybe the difficulty getting Ca in later bloom is behind a bit of the leaf distortion?

What is the NPK on that feed, and your dosing. I would like to see what your feeding in elemental terms. I think the excess signs are fine, as you can't help them, at the expense of the others. It would be interesting to know though. Just to benchmark you against today's research claims. I reckon you might be knocking on towards 250ppm N, or I might look elsewhere for what's at play
 

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Some of those are properly fat. Nice :)

Do you think the N little high at this time, and maybe the difficulty getting Ca in later bloom is behind a bit of the leaf distortion?

What is the NPK on that feed, and your dosing. I would like to see what your feeding in elemental terms. I think the excess signs are fine, as you can't help them, at the expense of the others. It would be interesting to know though. Just to benchmark you against today's research claims. I reckon you might be knocking on towards 250ppm N, or I might look elsewhere for what's at play
So i just defoliated and youll see some neon looking green stuff that was shaded out, in time it will be a normal color. As for the downward claw, thats always been associated with N toxicity, but its also a genetic marker for some strains. Both the truffle and its offspring (truffle mintz 1 and 2) have it. Nothing else in the room is doing it. I missed the mark timing the tissue test this run. It will happen next time.

As for H and G Flakes heres what the base bottles state and ill tell you what ive fed at.

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I of course add other things, hydroguard and hydroplex along with silica blast from botanicare, as well as bud-xl and top booster(week 5 only) from H and G. Thats about it.

Weeks 1-3 i was around 600-650ml in a 70 gallon reservoir of the base. At weeks 4 and 5 i upped to 700ml. Now im back at 650 for week 6 here. Last run i maxed out at 600ml per res of base nutes and we had our deficiency issues. In the early weeks i did 500ml which i think starved them. I felt this was a modest increase and it made a huge difference this run obviously.

As for the clawing down, again ive seen this on other strains in the past(Amnesia Haze i ran for a decade) no matter what i did. Could have practically starved them and they would do it. Then times when id feed more it would do it less. Im also curious if its because of the light intensity. If its phototropism, but moving away instead of toward the light. I did notice it start more as i breached the 80%+ mark when upping the lights. Its a head scratcher but im really the furthest thing from stressing it. The plants are producing insane quality and stacked tough.
 

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I might have to work it out when a little more sober (4:30am)
I'm seeing 100N 33P 190K and a shocking 200Mg. Based on 600ml from each bottle, going in 266L

We do talk of nitrogen claw, but I see it as an old wives tale. I was happy to accept it if you had high N, but fully expected I could be looking elsewhere.
With your K signs in the past, and my suspicion of Ca being low, I look at that high Mg and must get back to your last tissue results to see what might be going on. Right now though, I'm going back to the fridge :)
 

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Something is very wrong with that labeling. It's not the first time I have read 'fuck you' on the side of a bottle either.
Rationally speaking, 4-3-9 sounds like a real feed, you might use at 5ml per liter.
Here we have a listing of 0.4-0.3-0.9 but we are not using 50ml per liter, it's 2.25
This label has missed off what it can, and listed only what they promise is in there, as an absolute minimum. There is no representation of what's in the bottle. No option to look at other brands and compare.
At least one other big brand does this
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This feed chart is a little unusual. It bothers to tell us the N found in the tank after mixing. It's nearly 50% higher than the bottle says. The Floranova is a lot worse, but they do recognise that the N number is important. Above all else.

Before the flakes vanish from the market, you should get a tank sample to the lab. So you are ready to replace it. Even before that time, it might help you form a better picture of what's going on. The flakes are obviously working, So it's worth learning from them.

In the last post, I subconsciously moved the decimal point, trying to make sense of it. The Mg suggests 20 not 200, or in fact, 18. Though it can't be trusted, so I just need to be clear, my figures missed the target, and shot me in the foot.

That was a long post to say nothing.
 

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You shared some pics a week later, on your last run
It makes an interesting comparison. The extra feeds had a dramatic effect.
It sure shows in that “dewdrop” pheno. Everything is way more swollen this run. Its noticeable everywhere in my opinion. For them to look this good this early is very encouraging.
 
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