1 plant in trouble, overwatering is my only guess

[Rob547]

Help me out here guys.

3 of 4 are healthy. And one is just clinging to life. I have no idea what the deal is. Gave it MG ferts 18-18-18 a while ago and it didnt make it worse or better. I am at a loss for a solution. overwatering maybe? hasnt been watered for 5 days or so.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1299396#post1299396

theres for more info. Im actually gonna do some ph tests soon. 16% RH 70 degrees ATM.

thanks for your help and time

 

[Litz_C]

yup it overwatered and the tip start turning yellowish. I never have experience with soil before. If you can try to drain out some water and let it chill for 3~4 day. Watch it closely. If rise back up and don't feed them yea. Wait until few more days then feed it back to regular schedule. That what i apply to hydro so i m not sure is it the same way for soils. Good Luck

 

[Hazelnuts]

It could also be underwatering, at least mine looked like that after I left them in the hot sun for a day without watering. But I'm kind of a nub when it comes to that, so you might wanna listen to other ppl

 

[MynameStitch]

Hell no that plant is underwatered man; overwatered plants do not droop that low; underwatered plants droop that low; you need to give it a nice drink man.....

I can also see where the plant grew into the fluro and you cut it off

 

[bounty29]

There's a real easy way to check this. Pick up the container the plant is in. How is the weight compared to when you just water it? That's the best way to gauge how much water is in the soil.

 

[inflorescence]

or just look at the surface of the soil.
What color is it. See how it's a lot lighter in color than when it's saturated with water.
That, combined with remembering how much water you gave the plant last time will tell you what you want to know.

 

[bounty29]

That only tells you how wet the top of the soil is though. I've had bone dry topsoil, but 2 inches down it was moist. Weight will tell you what's in the whole thing.

 

[inflorescence]

It tells you wether the plant is drinkin or not.
If the top dries down but two inches under it is moist it will not present as overwatered because moist is good. It's when the top is still wet, says the plant is refusing to drink, ala h20 suffocation by O2 displacement.
OP is also using a very airy, spongey peat which equals too dry when dry and too wet when wet.
Needs more frequent smaller waterings than less frequent larger waterings.

It's 16 rH and hasn't been watered for five days.

It's underwatered.

Or more techincally, the wet/dry cycle is off.

 

[inflorescence]

Weight will tell you what's in the whole thing.

Sight is more efficient. Imagine a whole greenhouse full of plants. Do you constantly want to be lifting containers.
Learn to recognize signs and symptoms with your eyes to save time and your back.

 

[Rob547]

Hell no that plant is underwatered man; overwatered plants do not droop that low; underwatered plants droop that low; you need to give it a nice drink man.....

I can also see where the plant grew into the fluro and you cut it off

cut it off?? only a branch or two to get more light to the stem.




soooo, its underwater vs overwater??? no significantly different symptoms??


The top of the soil is indeed pretty dry and loose. About an inch under is still moist...maybe a little less than what most people see as "moist" if that makes any sense.

So should I just be depriving it of water for maybe 2-3 days or give it a bunch of water now and see what happens??

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

gotta make sure you check your pots as far as weight, and you shouldn't have too much run off after you water. -mynamestitch- could be right in what he is saying, but for me, i experienced that when i waterd too much. i had so much run of the first time and then didnt bother to check the weight of the pots and watered again. . . needless to say i learned my lesson really fast!!

but then again its why i love soil, so forgiving!!

 

[MynameStitch]

Dude I know; I know when I see a thirsty and a over watered plant; your plant is praying for water man!

I am talking about the leaves that got burnt from the light on the first picture the right plant.

Well over watered plants do not get there leaves that droopy; only underwatered plants. Overwatered plants will have there leaves pointed out and drooped away from the plant; where with underwatered the leaves are drooped closer to the plant.

 

[Rob547]

ok, well I'm gonna give it another day maybe and then water it to see what happens.

last time I watered it and it seemed like it had a decent amt of runoff for only giving it 2 cups of water or so. maybe it has poor water retention?

 

[HuffAndPuff]

DUDE WATER THAT PLANT NOW!!!!

soooo, its underwater vs overwater??? no significantly different symptoms??

That's almost literally like asking if there is a significant difference between night and day. And as clear as day, those plants need water!!!

Water it until water drains in a steady flow out the drainage holes. Then pick up the pot to see how much it weighs when full. When it gets light, like it was, water it again.

HuffAndPuff

[EDIT: Don't go cutting leaves off your plant to 'let light get to the stem'. The plant needs leaves, it is how they photosynthesize (ya know- the whole convert light and food to energy). Occassionally, under certain growing conditions/environments people do this to get light to the lower BUDS. This is usually done later in flower. A good rule for a beginner is not to cut off any leaf that isn't more than half affected by nute burn, etc.]

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Jesus Christ on the Feckin Cross.......how can you not tell overwatering from underwatering......did you drown the bitch everyday or have you not watered for a week?? This has got to be the easiest problems in growing. do you know when your lights are on/off?? Do you know hot from cold?? are you focking retarded?? If you can't figure this one out, you should kill yourself. Really.



Ok, that was a little harsh but i feel better now. If your pots are light, water. You can't tell shit by sight and if you use that as a gauge you also should kill yourself...unless you have clones all the same size....then you can sorta tell like that but different plants all have different water and food requirements. I rarely water all my plants on the same day. They use different amts. of water and require it at different times.

 

[MynameStitch]

DUDE WATER THAT PLANT NOW!!!!



That's almost literally like asking if there is a significant difference between night and day. And as clear as day, those plants need water!!!

Water it until water drains in a steady flow out the drainage holes. Then pick up the pot to see how much it weighs when full. When it gets light, like it was, water it again.

HuffAndPuff

[EDIT: Don't go cutting leaves off your plant to 'let light get to the stem'. The plant needs leaves, it is how they photosynthesize (ya know- the whole convert light and food to energy). Occassionally, under certain growing conditions/environments people do this to get light to the lower BUDS. This is usually done later in flower. A good rule for a beginner is not to cut off any leaf that isn't more than half affected by nute burn, etc.]

LOL, You have to give out more reputation before giving it to HuffnPuff


He got confused from what I said; I told him I seen the leaves he cut off from the leaves touched the light.......Not to go and cut the leaves near the light lol. Boy things get confusing around this "joint"

 

[inflorescence]

You can't tell shit by sight and if you use that as a gauge you also should kill yourself....

Well in my day job I have about five seconds to size up a non-cannabis plant. I need to know if it needs water, nutes, pest problems, etc.
Quick, your five seconds are almost up. If you spent all that time lifting the container, which would be impossible considered how many plant are potted you would never make it thru the day.

Congratulations, you figured out if a cannabis plant needs water, not go out and do that to 100 different varieties and make it snappy cause I'm not gonna pay you to stand around and think.

You need to be able to LOOK at a plant from a distance and KNOW exactly what it needs.
Think you can handle that sport? LOL

 

[bounty29]

We're talking about a small grow here. He can take the time to pick up his container. We are giving him advice for his situation. We are not talking about your day job, or how to do it. The situations are entirely different, and I don't know what your situation has to do with this one.

 

[inflorescence]

His point was you can't tell by sight.
I'm saying the better you get at this the more you'll be able to tell by sight.
It's all about reading your plants so why overlook the most obvious (at least to me) sense, ie. sight?

 

[Guest]

Yo, whats the BOTTOM and SIDES of that bucket look like?...Check your drainage.
Good Luck!