Hi everybody, i thought it's time to make a new Thread, as my Hawaiian Sativa Thread feels old and outdated and was mixed with all kind of stuff.
This Thread will document my Oaxacan projects.
Recently i've started a CBG Oaxaca79S1 project, a few months ago i received 10 Seeds from someone in California who got them from Charlie Garcia in 2015, from the 10 Seeds 2 were crushed, so i had 8 left to work with. From the 8 only 1 survived, the rest simply not have started to grow their tap root and died soon after.
The one survivor now seems happy and makes progress daily, but compared to fresh not inbred lines it's slower as usual, but it's ok, i can wait.
The first step will be to let her grow big enough to take clones and hold bonsai moms. On the second step im not completely sure, if the one survivor is stable in sex i would like to directly cross her with Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull. But i've the feeling it will be not completely stable in sex, that would be too much luck at once.
So probably the next step would be to make some S2's of the CBG Oax79S1 and look through them to find a healthy stable plant with a nice quality. On the one survivor i can already see some little mutations. Think the chance is there to still find some variation in the S2's to select from. It's very important for me to have a stable sex plant to start to work with.
If i have a good stable CGB Oaxaca79S2 plant i can progress with my work, selecting one or more stable Oaxaca79Skull males to make the first cross.
I really like Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull line, it's unique and has a great quality when it comes to effect, flowering time and yield. The flowering time is around 10-12 weeks, would say more around 12 weeks. It has a nice old school smell, like a perfume for old men, like walking through a pine forest with a slightly fruity berry undertone, maybe a bit musk. Not as loud as modern strains, but i enjoyed it, as it's different to strains i grew before.
Around 10 years ago Vermontman had to start a outcrossing and backcrossing project, as his Oaxaca started to suffer from inbreeding after growing it year after year for some decades. He tried a few different strains for the outcrossing project, in the end he stayed with Fed. Hawaiian Sativa, as it not changed the quality of his Oax and not displayed anything of the cross or the Hawaiian itself. I grew around 30 Hawaiian Sativa females, and he is right, i wasn't able to find something what reminded me to the Hawaiian. The smell was different, and most important the effect was much better in my eyes, clean and warm and not a hint of paranoia or panick inducing, i really enjoyed it.
The Hawaiian on the other hand was something i would call more racy with something which let me feel exhausted after smoking it daily for a few months, it made me pretty aggressive and i completely stopped to smoking it and completely stopped smoking weed for a half year.
There was a pheno i really liked as it was different, much more enjoyable and pure incense smelling, while the others had more a citrus incense and vicks vaporub menthol smell. When i first started growing the Hawaiian i was very happy, also the first smoke tests were nice, but with curing it was getting stronger and stronger and my nerve system seemed to not liking it. There was a pheno which gave me a cold rush over my back, my heart started pumping extremely and i had a bad panick attack. I've tried this pheno 3 times, always the same, after a few minutes a cold rush over the back and extremely heart pumping while feeling very clear in the head. Layed down and not moved to slow down the heart pumping, after almost a hour i felt bettter. Overall i would call the Hawaiian a cold clinic high with a burn out feeling, maybe it's just me, but that let me stop growing and smoking it. The yield was very good, smell and taste top notch no question, but when your body tells you to not smoke it anymore...yeah.
So in the end Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull not shows anything what i wrote about the Hawaiian above, it's warm and very enjoable even for me as a sensitive person. It's potent but without a hint of something i would call uncomfortable. Not affects the heart etc.
Normally it should be called Oaxaca79Skull BX, but as vman says it's exactly like his old line i belive him, as he must knows best what his original Oax smoked like. Im not in the position to change the name, so will call it Oaxaca79Skull. As far as i know he backcrossed 4 times, after the 6 time it shows inbred depressions again, so he sticked with 4 times. Have to ask him when he is back online and worked out his personal life challenges.
The Oaxaca79Skull seems to react much different when being grown under LED's with a mostly red spectrum compared to HPS. Vman had his best results with the cheap Mars Hydro panels, plants produce very hefty buds which someone could think these are indica buds, but there is no indica effect when smoking it. Under HPS they seem to act very different, not nearly as tight.
My hope is, when crossing the Skull line with CBG's Oaxaca line to induce that complex smell and taste of CBG's line in plants with the frame of vmans line, of course the effect should be enjoyable as well.
I received more nice lines over the last months and weeks and a nice other delivery should arrive soon from MadMac. (Ohaze)
Crosses i would like to make with the both Oaxacan lines mentioned above:
CBG Oaxaca79S1 or S2 x High Quality Seeds Durban
x Oaxaca12Fingers/Oaxacan
x Oaxaca79Skull
x OriginalHaze
Oaxaca79Skull (male or female parent can change)
x High Quality Seeds Durban
x Oaxaca12Fingers/Oaxacan
x OriginalHaze
CBG Oaxaca79S1
This Thread will document my Oaxacan projects.
Recently i've started a CBG Oaxaca79S1 project, a few months ago i received 10 Seeds from someone in California who got them from Charlie Garcia in 2015, from the 10 Seeds 2 were crushed, so i had 8 left to work with. From the 8 only 1 survived, the rest simply not have started to grow their tap root and died soon after.
The one survivor now seems happy and makes progress daily, but compared to fresh not inbred lines it's slower as usual, but it's ok, i can wait.
The first step will be to let her grow big enough to take clones and hold bonsai moms. On the second step im not completely sure, if the one survivor is stable in sex i would like to directly cross her with Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull. But i've the feeling it will be not completely stable in sex, that would be too much luck at once.
So probably the next step would be to make some S2's of the CBG Oax79S1 and look through them to find a healthy stable plant with a nice quality. On the one survivor i can already see some little mutations. Think the chance is there to still find some variation in the S2's to select from. It's very important for me to have a stable sex plant to start to work with.
If i have a good stable CGB Oaxaca79S2 plant i can progress with my work, selecting one or more stable Oaxaca79Skull males to make the first cross.
I really like Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull line, it's unique and has a great quality when it comes to effect, flowering time and yield. The flowering time is around 10-12 weeks, would say more around 12 weeks. It has a nice old school smell, like a perfume for old men, like walking through a pine forest with a slightly fruity berry undertone, maybe a bit musk. Not as loud as modern strains, but i enjoyed it, as it's different to strains i grew before.
Around 10 years ago Vermontman had to start a outcrossing and backcrossing project, as his Oaxaca started to suffer from inbreeding after growing it year after year for some decades. He tried a few different strains for the outcrossing project, in the end he stayed with Fed. Hawaiian Sativa, as it not changed the quality of his Oax and not displayed anything of the cross or the Hawaiian itself. I grew around 30 Hawaiian Sativa females, and he is right, i wasn't able to find something what reminded me to the Hawaiian. The smell was different, and most important the effect was much better in my eyes, clean and warm and not a hint of paranoia or panick inducing, i really enjoyed it.
The Hawaiian on the other hand was something i would call more racy with something which let me feel exhausted after smoking it daily for a few months, it made me pretty aggressive and i completely stopped to smoking it and completely stopped smoking weed for a half year.
There was a pheno i really liked as it was different, much more enjoyable and pure incense smelling, while the others had more a citrus incense and vicks vaporub menthol smell. When i first started growing the Hawaiian i was very happy, also the first smoke tests were nice, but with curing it was getting stronger and stronger and my nerve system seemed to not liking it. There was a pheno which gave me a cold rush over my back, my heart started pumping extremely and i had a bad panick attack. I've tried this pheno 3 times, always the same, after a few minutes a cold rush over the back and extremely heart pumping while feeling very clear in the head. Layed down and not moved to slow down the heart pumping, after almost a hour i felt bettter. Overall i would call the Hawaiian a cold clinic high with a burn out feeling, maybe it's just me, but that let me stop growing and smoking it. The yield was very good, smell and taste top notch no question, but when your body tells you to not smoke it anymore...yeah.
So in the end Vermontmans Oaxaca79Skull not shows anything what i wrote about the Hawaiian above, it's warm and very enjoable even for me as a sensitive person. It's potent but without a hint of something i would call uncomfortable. Not affects the heart etc.
Normally it should be called Oaxaca79Skull BX, but as vman says it's exactly like his old line i belive him, as he must knows best what his original Oax smoked like. Im not in the position to change the name, so will call it Oaxaca79Skull. As far as i know he backcrossed 4 times, after the 6 time it shows inbred depressions again, so he sticked with 4 times. Have to ask him when he is back online and worked out his personal life challenges.
The Oaxaca79Skull seems to react much different when being grown under LED's with a mostly red spectrum compared to HPS. Vman had his best results with the cheap Mars Hydro panels, plants produce very hefty buds which someone could think these are indica buds, but there is no indica effect when smoking it. Under HPS they seem to act very different, not nearly as tight.
My hope is, when crossing the Skull line with CBG's Oaxaca line to induce that complex smell and taste of CBG's line in plants with the frame of vmans line, of course the effect should be enjoyable as well.
I received more nice lines over the last months and weeks and a nice other delivery should arrive soon from MadMac. (Ohaze)
Crosses i would like to make with the both Oaxacan lines mentioned above:
CBG Oaxaca79S1 or S2 x High Quality Seeds Durban
x Oaxaca12Fingers/Oaxacan
x Oaxaca79Skull
x OriginalHaze
Oaxaca79Skull (male or female parent can change)
x High Quality Seeds Durban
x Oaxaca12Fingers/Oaxacan
x OriginalHaze
CBG Oaxaca79S1
