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UK Police force gives cannabis users green light to grow drugs

amanda88

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Durham Police and Crime Commissioner Ron Hogg sparks debate by saying people who smoke cannabis will only be targeted if they are being 'blatant'
Cannabis users in County Durham who grow the drug for their own consumption will no longer be targeted by the police after the force declared the illegal activity was not a priority.
In a move, which will be seen as a further step towards decriminalisation, Durham Constabulary declared it would only go after people using the drug if there was a complaint or if they were being “blatant”.
While the force insisted it would continue to tackle commercial cannabis farms and other areas of criminality associated with the production of the drug, those who grow and use at home will not be actively targeted and pursued.
Details of the policy were outlined by Ron Hogg, a former police officer and now the £70,000 a year Police and Crime Commissioner, who said he hoped by setting out the position, it would spark a national debate around drug laws.
Mr Hogg said: "We are not prioritising people who have a small number of cannabis plants for their own use. In low level cases we say it is better to work with them and put them in a position where they can recover.
"In these cases the most likely way of dealing with them would be with a caution and by taking the plants away and disposing of them. It is unlikely that a case like that would be brought before a court.
"Of course it is up to the government to change the law but I trying to open up a debate about drugs and drugs policy."

Both Mr Hogg and his Chief Constable, Mick Barton, are outspoken advocates of the decriminalisation of all narcotics, but the softening of the position around cannabis has alarmed some anti-drugs campaigners.
Outlining how the force would now tackle cannabis users, Mr Hogg said anyone caught with the Class B drug, would be given the opportunity to avoid prosecution by signing up to a crime reduction initiative.
He said the programme would allow addicts to receive the help they needed, while allowing people caught with small amounts of the drug to be treated in a “fair and measured” way.
However anti-drug campaigners said it was not up to an individual force to “lead the debate around the law” and insisted the policy sent the wrong message to users.
David Raynes of the National Drug Prevention Alliance, said: “Durham Constabulary are out on their own with this and are trying to lead the law on this issue.
“If the Chief Constable and Police Crime Commissioner want to indulge in that policy then it is not necessary to make it public, because clearly making this sort of announcement will serve to encourage anyone who so minded.
Setting out the force's position on the controversial issue of drugs, Mr Hogg said: “By and large we are saying it is not the top of our list to go out and try to pick up people smoking joints on street corners but if it’s blatant or we get complaints, officers will act.”
He added: “Drugs cause immense harm to our communities. The question is how we tackle them. There hasn’t been a change in policy. We are taking an approach which reduces harm – by focusing on stopping people from using drugs, and tackling the organised gangs who are the source of the supply.

“Those who grow or deal in drugs, no matter on what scale, are responsible for causing massive harm to our communities, and will be tackled.”
And he said there would be no soft approach for those who grew the drug commercially, adding: “The police are working with partners including the fire service to identify and tackle cannabis farms.”
Last year Chief Constable Mick Barton argued that investigating and prosecuting drug addicts was a “waste of police time”.
He has called for the decriminalisation of hard drugs such as heroin and cocaine, arguing that if they were supplied on the NHS, addicts would not need to go out and commit crime in order to buy illegal narcotics.

Cannabis and the law
• Cannabis is categorised as a Class B drug and anyone caught in possession could face up to five years in prison, as well as an unlimited fine.
• Anyone convicted of the production and supply of cannabis could face up to 14-years in prison as well as an unlimited fine.
• Police forces are able to apply the law as they see fit with some areas taking a more lenient approach to drug use. In 2001 police in Lambeth, south London, trialled a scheme where people caught smoking the drug simply had it confiscated and received a warning. The system was tightened up in 2002.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...cannabis-users-green-light-to-grow-drugs.html
 

Sforza

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Slowly but surely the truth that ganja is not a problem is beginning to dawn on even the dimmest among us.
 
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bigganjabud

Looks like a mini usa thing atm here in the uk

As more police constituencies admit they dont care about personal growers

Instead of state by state its a police force by police force sort of thing


Tbh though fuck it

I been growing my own for years
 

Gardening Angel

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Durham Police and Crime Commissioner Ron Hogg sparks debate by saying people who smoke cannabis will only be targeted if they are being 'blatant'
Cannabis users in County Durham who grow the drug for their own consumption will no longer be targeted by the police after the force declared the illegal activity was not a priority.
In a move, which will be seen as a further step towards decriminalisation, Durham Constabulary declared it would only go after people using the drug if there was a complaint or if they were being “blatant”.
While the force insisted it would continue to tackle commercial cannabis farms and other areas of criminality associated with the production of the drug, those who grow and use at home will not be actively targeted and pursued.
Details of the policy were outlined by Ron Hogg, a former police officer and now the £70,000 a year Police and Crime Commissioner, who said he hoped by setting out the position, it would spark a national debate around drug laws.
Mr Hogg said: "We are not prioritising people who have a small number of cannabis plants for their own use. In low level cases we say it is better to work with them and put them in a position where they can recover.
"In these cases the most likely way of dealing with them would be with a caution and by taking the plants away and disposing of them. It is unlikely that a case like that would be brought before a court.
"Of course it is up to the government to change the law but I trying to open up a debate about drugs and drugs policy."

Both Mr Hogg and his Chief Constable, Mick Barton, are outspoken advocates of the decriminalisation of all narcotics, but the softening of the position around cannabis has alarmed some anti-drugs campaigners.
Outlining how the force would now tackle cannabis users, Mr Hogg said anyone caught with the Class B drug, would be given the opportunity to avoid prosecution by signing up to a crime reduction initiative.
He said the programme would allow addicts to receive the help they needed, while allowing people caught with small amounts of the drug to be treated in a “fair and measured” way.
However anti-drug campaigners said it was not up to an individual force to “lead the debate around the law” and insisted the policy sent the wrong message to users.
David Raynes of the National Drug Prevention Alliance, said: “Durham Constabulary are out on their own with this and are trying to lead the law on this issue.
“If the Chief Constable and Police Crime Commissioner want to indulge in that policy then it is not necessary to make it public, because clearly making this sort of announcement will serve to encourage anyone who so minded.
Setting out the force's position on the controversial issue of drugs, Mr Hogg said: “By and large we are saying it is not the top of our list to go out and try to pick up people smoking joints on street corners but if it’s blatant or we get complaints, officers will act.”
He added: “Drugs cause immense harm to our communities. The question is how we tackle them. There hasn’t been a change in policy. We are taking an approach which reduces harm – by focusing on stopping people from using drugs, and tackling the organised gangs who are the source of the supply.

“Those who grow or deal in drugs, no matter on what scale, are responsible for causing massive harm to our communities, and will be tackled.”
And he said there would be no soft approach for those who grew the drug commercially, adding: “The police are working with partners including the fire service to identify and tackle cannabis farms.”
Last year Chief Constable Mick Barton argued that investigating and prosecuting drug addicts was a “waste of police time”.
He has called for the decriminalisation of hard drugs such as heroin and cocaine, arguing that if they were supplied on the NHS, addicts would not need to go out and commit crime in order to buy illegal narcotics.

Cannabis and the law
• Cannabis is categorised as a Class B drug and anyone caught in possession could face up to five years in prison, as well as an unlimited fine.
• Anyone convicted of the production and supply of cannabis could face up to 14-years in prison as well as an unlimited fine.
• Police forces are able to apply the law as they see fit with some areas taking a more lenient approach to drug use. In 2001 police in Lambeth, south London, trialled a scheme where people caught smoking the drug simply had it confiscated and received a warning. The system was tightened up in 2002.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...cannabis-users-green-light-to-grow-drugs.html

Hey everyone,

More steps in the right direction for the UK

Thanks
GA
 
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bigganjabud

And then i found this from the independent newspaper


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A man smokes a joint in an Amsterdam cannabis coffeeshop, where small amounts of cannabis can be bought for personal use
Government issues damning response to 200,000-signature cannabis legalisation petition

The response said that 'cannabis can unquestionably cause harm to individuals and society'
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By DOUG BOLTON
Tuesday 25 August 2015
The Government has issued a firm response to a parliamentary petition calling for the legalisation of cannabis, that reached over 200,000 signatures and will be considered for debate in parliament.
The petition that urges the Government to "make the production, sale and use of cannabis legal" has 203,466 signatures at the time of writing.
The text of the petition claims that the legalisation of cannabis "could bring in £900 million in taxes every year, save £400 million on policing cannabis and create over 10,000 new jobs."

The petition is the second most popular on the website, second only to one that calls for a debate on a no confidence vote in Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
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Despite the petition's popularity, the Government has shut the door on the prospect of legalisation with their response.
It says: "The latest evidence from the independent Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs is that the use of cannabis is a significant public health issue"
"Cannabis can unquestionably cause harm to individuals and society. Legalisation of cannabis would not eliminate the crime committed by the illicit trade, nor would it address the harms associated with drug dependence and the misery that this can cause to families."
"Legalisation would also send the wrong message to the vast majority of people who do not take drugs, especially young and vulnerable people, with the potential grave risk of increased misuse of drugs."
 
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bigganjabud

But we are in the uk so that means the rest of the world has got it really wrong and any second now they will all start dying by the masses ��
 

Sforza

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"nor would it address the harms associated with drug dependence and the misery that this can cause to families."

After they got done writing this up they patted each other on the back for doing a good job and said let's hit the pub for a few pints.

The misery and crime caused to individuals and society by the abuse of alcohol is so much worse than anything that could possible be caused by cannabis is obvious that it hard to understand why so many in government ignore it.
 
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bigganjabud

"nor would it address the harms associated with drug dependence and the misery that this can cause to families."

After they got done writing this up they patted each other on the back for doing a good job and said let's hit the pub for a few pints.

The misery and crime caused to individuals and society by the abuse of alcohol is so much worse than anything that could possible be caused by cannabis is obvious that it hard to understand why so many in government ignore it.



Tbh mate i dont think they went to the pub for a pint


I rekon they fucked off to the little boys room to powder there noses, after all parliament has a history of cocaine and buggery remember
 

Space Toker

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well don;t know if I read far enough into it, prob not, but sounds good. although in the untii far too recently the US has been far too opppresive, got to believe now we are finally ahead of the game! Regardless the US tends to portray itself as arrogant bastards and politically it is, and many citizens as well, but I got to believe at least 60% (yeah prob like the most enlightened 10%) realize goodness dwells in us all and that is what we must seize and run with. But yeah I think everyone everywhere can soon rejoice over totally free herb everywhere~! Of course I tend to be too much of an optimistic but I think the opponents are sliding down a slippery slope they can never right themselves from. Total legal cannabis everywhere except the most backward places by 2020 guaranteed!
 

Tudo

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It's certainly a step in the right direction. How does a retiree who moves to England find healthcare, what will it cost and will they decline a foreigner with "pre-existing" conditions?:tiphat:
 
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bigganjabud

Dont know Tudo but its legal in my house so you can come live in my garden if u want
 

GMT

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Healthcare is free, but unless you can smuggle yourself through the channel tunnel and claim asylum, you don't stand much chance tudo.
 

Illuminate

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Well fuck you to the peado political scumbags, im going to continue to exercise my god given right to sacrement regardless, lock me up ill do weights and come out without a job and grow more and keep smarter, keeping my taxes.
 
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ganjygav

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Make the production, sale and use of cannabis legal.”.
Government responded:
Substantial scientific evidence shows cannabis is a harmful drug that can damage human health. There are no plans to legalise cannabis as it would not address the harm to individuals and communities.
The latest evidence from the independent Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs is that the use of cannabis is a significant public health issue (‘Cannabis Classification and Public Health’, 2008).
Cannabis can unquestionably cause harm to individuals and society. Legalisation of cannabis would not eliminate the crime committed by the illicit trade, nor would it address the harms associated with drug dependence and the misery that this can cause to families.
Legalisation would also send the wrong message to the vast majority of people who do not take drugs, especially young and vulnerable people, with the potential grave risk of increased misuse of drugs.
Despite the potential opportunity offered by legalisation to raise revenue through taxation, there would be costs in relation to administrative, compliance and law enforcement activities, as well as the wider costs of drug prevention and health services.
The UK's approach on drugs remains clear: we must prevent drug use in our communities; help dependent individuals through treatment and wider recovery support; while ensuring law enforcement protects society by stopping the supply and tackling the organised crime that is associated with the drugs trade. The Government will build on the Drugs Strategy by continuing to take a balanced and coherent approach to address the evolving challenges posed.
There are positive signs that the Government’s approach is working: there has been a long term downward trend in drug use over the last decade, and more people are recovering from their dependency now than in 2009/10. The number of adults aged 16-59 using cannabis in the last year in England and Wales has declined over the last decade from 9.6% to 6.7%, with cannabis use amongst young adults aged 16-24 and young people aged 11-15 following a similar pattern.
Thoughts anyone........
 

ChaosCatalunya

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He may be called Hogg, but ain't a Pig

Americans will never cease to be awestruck by our absolute mastery of irony
 

amanda88

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Healthcare is free, but unless you can smuggle yourself through the channel tunnel and claim asylum, you don't stand much chance tudo.
There may be some delay as there is a considerable crowd ahead of you, mostly from Syria and Ethiopia ...lol
 
good news :)
and the military in italy grows a lot of medical ganja next time harhar
bombastico!!!
this world will go absolutly green next years (i hope)
 
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